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Dec 28, 2002, 4:15pm

Erm, just have it announced if sum1 joins the whispers... hehe! I know this
KINDA defeats the point but it still protects privacy as they WILL know who
is there!
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Dec 29, 2002, 10:35am

I'm not sure what you mean by tourists using the feature, but I'm thinking it would be best if only world caretakers and people with eject privileges could request permission to view your incomming and outgoing whispers, of the intention is to allow a way of verifying harrassment, since other people couldn't do much about it even after verifying it and some people might have a tendancy to repeatedly ask complete strangers for such permission without good cause, given the chance.

TechnoZeus

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Dec 29, 2002, 10:46am

Ah, okay sk8man1, I just realized what you meant. The concept of "tourist" doesn't trigger in my mind the idea of not being able to whisper, so I didn't realie that you meant "people who can't whisper or send telegrams" and yes I agree that for their sake it would be nice if there was some alternative way of letting someone in charge know that they are being harrassed and would like their whispers monitored. I suppose better yet would be to be able to choose mute from the whisper list (even with whispering disabled) so that they can't whisper to you. Some kind of context menu should be added to the whisper list. If not the ability to right click on a name in the list, then perhaps a "context menu" button right next to either the whisper list or the whisper input field. Adding a context list option would then be even better since it would make that option easier to get to without having to find the target avatar.

TechnoZeus

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Dec 29, 2002, 10:49am

That wouldn't be so bad... and if it only announced when they started watching, and not when they stopped, the person doing the harrassment (or other unwanted behavior) wouldn't know when the monitoring stopped and would most likely continue to behave, just in case. :)

TechnoZeus

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Dec 30, 2002, 11:44am

I guess it could even help to let other people know that you are taking
action against them. If it told them that their whispers are being relayed
to someone they might consider not doing it again and that they might
actually get into trouble because the person they're harassing is serious.
On the downside they might keep doing it BECAUSE you relayed the whispers.
o.O

-Sk8man1


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Dec 30, 2002, 12:35pm

That's another reason why I figure there shouldn't be a way of letting a person without eject privs or caretaker privs listen in on whispers... because if the problem they're monitoring gets worse it would be good if they could do something about it.

TechnoZeus

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Dec 31, 2002, 7:41pm

What I'm also getting at is that it's not an invasion of privacy if you
are trying to help someone in trouble. The police get a warrants to search
places and things which would usually be considered invasion of privacy. The
judge gives out the warrant if the case needs it. The person getting
harassed could essentially *give out a warrant* to the person with eject so
they can see what's going on. It's not something that can work at all times,
only with permission... and the person can cut you off any time, just like a
judge can take back his warrant if there is no furthur *invasion of privacy*
needed.

-Sk8man1

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Jan 1, 2003, 5:04pm

I don't like the idea of anyone viewing any of my whispers to someone. The
whispers I send are intended for that person only, and I feel I'd have to be
warned if someone else was monitoring any whispers. I just don't like the
idea.

Ryan Jacob

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Jan 1, 2003, 7:02pm

If you're whispering abusive things to someone than they have the right
to relay their whispers. Also as tourists don't have a "Mute on sight"
feature they would have to keep muting someone and will have to keep putting
up with the person until something can be done about it. Citizens can't do
that either unless you have the person in your contact list...

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Jan 1, 2003, 8:12pm

Any time you say anything to anyway, it is possible that they may repeat it. They may also choose to record for later use. There are a few people in Active Worlds who do that kind of thing all the time. If you want to be sure something you say will not be repeated, either say it where nobody can hear you (which seems to me would usually serve no purpose) or only say it to someone you trust and only after they agree not to ever repeat what you're about to say. Personally, I have a little trouble making such agreements without knowing what is "about to be" said. Hehe.

TechnoZeus

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Jan 3, 2003, 1:07am

Right click on their avatar or name in the chat and you can select "mute on
sight". You don't need them in your contacts.
Tourists get in free. This is one of the many marketing ways to encourage
them to pony up the dough for their entertainment.
Remember, that's what this is, entertainment. Even if you do put your whole
world into it.


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Jan 3, 2003, 1:36am

True... but still, we can wish. :)

TechnoZeus

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