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Jul 27, 2002, 11:21pm

why can't you see coronas through glass objects, they're bursts of light,
light can be seen through glass yes? couldn't there be a way to program it
to go through clear objects? something in the rwx code that they would
respond to or something...

--
maki www.awmaki.com

Jul 28, 2002, 12:10am

In some ways it is actually a good thing, for example, if you were to put
create light color=teal brightness=.01,corona flare1 size=9999 in the action
of an object in a pool, it would be helpful (though not very efficient) for
creating an underwater effect, and when coming up from the water it is no
longer visible.

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Jul 28, 2002, 1:36am

Ya but when your launching an intercontinental missile at you enemies it
really would be nice to be able to admire the corona engine flaring of into
the sky behind a hardened glass shield. Cooking my Av butt isn't my cup a
tea. Oooo wait slathes on spf 1000000000000000000000000000000000000.


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Jul 28, 2002, 1:47am

Could be the overlapping masked texture and transparent polygon bug, but AWGate has some coronas inside masked-textured polygons (the pyramid lightbeam things), and I've seen coronas visible from inside objects, so it IS possible to have coronas show from inside something, but I don't know the command.

[View Quote] > why can't you see coronas through glass objects, they're bursts of light,
> light can be seen through glass yes? couldn't there be a way to program it
> to go through clear objects? something in the rwx code that they would
> respond to or something...

Jul 28, 2002, 1:59am

Interesting maybe someone can follow up on that. A possible command? Playing
with coronas today at a 1000m thought that at that height its relative
possition to me would make an interesting sun effect ( Wouldn't move while I
roamed my small lot.) Only inside the house you can't see the corona through
the glass.

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Jul 28, 2002, 2:15am

Roland said it was "too complex" to do make the coronas visible from behind
transparent/masked objects. I don't think it is, lots of games do this.
Then again I haven't been developing programs for the past 6+ years.

--Bowen--

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Jul 28, 2002, 7:52am

As usual Roland didn't know what he was talking about because it's most indeedly possible since there are coronas inside objects in AWGate at 1s 12w inside a spinning sphere (which, oddly enough, still disappears when the spinning bars cover it) and there used to be one inside a tree (which is no longer there) in Corona world, where I first saw a corona inside an object and even telegrammed Grimm or Shamus about. Unfortunately, since I can't select objects in AWGate, I can't see how the corona is positioned, but it looks to be right on (in) the sphere.

[View Quote] > Roland said it was "too complex" to do make the coronas visible from behind
> transparent/masked objects. I don't think it is, lots of games do this.
> Then again I haven't been developing programs for the past 6+ years.
>
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Jul 28, 2002, 7:55am

Oh and they're even inside some of AWGate's walkway lamps too.

[View Quote] > As usual Roland didn't know what he was talking about because it's most indeedly possible since there are coronas inside objects in AWGate at 1s 12w inside a spinning sphere (which, oddly enough, still disappears when the spinning bars cover it) and there used to be one inside a tree (which is no longer there) in Corona world, where I first saw a corona inside an object and even telegrammed Grimm or Shamus about. Unfortunately, since I can't select objects in AWGate, I can't see how the corona is positioned, but it looks to be right on (in) the sphere.

Jul 28, 2002, 8:31am

I don't understand this concept of "inside an object", to me the coronas in
AWGate you mention appear to be working as expected. For the "spinning
sphere" example, the corona is on the center sphere so its always drawn
infront of the centre of that sphere no matter which direction its viewed
from, but its not inside the sphere. When one of the rings passes on front
of the centre of the sphere, the corona disappears momentarily. The same for
the walkway lamps, the lamp is in two parts (lantern and pole) and the
corona is on the lantern part so the corona is seen in front of the latern
all the time the origin of that object is visible.

What are you expecting to happen? This is what I understood coronas to be.

Grims

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Jul 28, 2002, 9:04am

When I put coronas on objects they become immediately blocked by the object. I have to end up making the object "create visible no" in order to see the corona. <shrug>

[View Quote] > I don't understand this concept of "inside an object", to me the coronas in
> AWGate you mention appear to be working as expected. For the "spinning
> sphere" example, the corona is on the center sphere so its always drawn
> infront of the centre of that sphere no matter which direction its viewed
> from, but its not inside the sphere. When one of the rings passes on front
> of the centre of the sphere, the corona disappears momentarily. The same for
> the walkway lamps, the lamp is in two parts (lantern and pole) and the
> corona is on the lantern part so the corona is seen in front of the latern
> all the time the origin of that object is visible.
>
> What are you expecting to happen? This is what I understood coronas to be.
>
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Jul 28, 2002, 9:39am

Hmm, they don't seem to disappear anymore...I just tried it again and they show through the object fine. Odd...ah well. I put one on a transparent sphere and it showed through it fine too.

[View Quote] > When I put coronas on objects they become immediately blocked by the object. I have to end up making the object "create visible no" in order to see the corona. <shrug>
>
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Jul 28, 2002, 9:46am

And i thought I was the only 1 who gets a thrill from watching weapons of
mass distuction :d

[View Quote] > Ya but when your launching an intercontinental missile at you enemies it
> really would be nice to be able to admire the corona engine flaring of
into
> the sky behind a hardened glass shield. Cooking my Av butt isn't my cup a
> tea. Oooo wait slathes on spf 1000000000000000000000000000000000000.

Jul 28, 2002, 10:15am

Just found the world corona inside the tree is: Terrain at 2n 0w

[View Quote] > Oh and they're even inside some of AWGate's walkway lamps too.
>
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Jul 28, 2002, 3:07pm

thats nothing compared to a photon torpedo (brighter, about 1000 times as
destructive) :P

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Jul 28, 2002, 6:33pm

Don't be such a sad little urchin.

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Jul 28, 2002, 7:19pm

Don't be such a sad hostile p'tak.

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Jul 28, 2002, 7:22pm

Don't be such a trebble.

--Bowen--

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Jul 28, 2002, 9:53pm

Hey that's to good My names on a Federation Starship /tug. I guess it would
be to much to ask to be a Galaxy class.


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Jul 28, 2002, 9:58pm

Isn't it Tribble?

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Jul 28, 2002, 10:00pm

> Isn't it Tribble?

Something like that, I haven't watched star trek in forever. Either way,
don't be one NCC!

--Bowen--

Jul 29, 2002, 7:33am

lolz

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Aug 6, 2002, 9:03pm

Those coronas that you are seeing are not inside the object, but are the
object itself

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Aug 6, 2002, 10:49pm

If the corona was the object itself, the object wouldn't be visible around it.

[View Quote] > Those coronas that you are seeing are not inside the object, but are the
> object itself
>
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Aug 7, 2002, 1:42am

Well I'v made plenty of corona's that look just like the one in AWGate

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Aug 7, 2002, 5:07am

And those have the corona inside the object. <shrug>

[View Quote] > Well I'v made plenty of corona's that look just like the one in AWGate
>
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Aug 15, 2002, 7:56am

Ptolemy, I've already done that sun idea a couple of times. Not hard. To
make it look right though you have to make it loop, get up there in less
than a second and make it wait=100000000000 or something.

=P

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