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I DESPERATELY NEED YOUR HELP! (Wishlist)
I DESPERATELY NEED YOUR HELP! // Wishlist
Apr 23, 2001, 8:51pm
Well j b e l l i think what you were doing was illegal. Maybe you should
host for free? ;)
[View Quote]"j b e l l" <jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message
news:3add0257 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> ..my number got pulled, i guess you could say.. got an e-mail from at Home..
telling me i can't host anything.. I understand not
> hosting for people.. but I'm trying to convince them to at least let me
host my own.. i've spent so much time and money on my worlds
> and object path.. maybe i'm out of line by requesting you all e-mail them
in my support.. but it's hard to see something you've
> worked so hard on, so long on, and spent so much on, just go off into the
sunset.. I understand with them i'm not supposed to host
> anything.. but it's just so hard.. it's tooken seven months to get
survivor where it is today.. and to see it all gone is just a
> hearbreak for me.. so.. please.. if you have the time.. just send them a
little notice that you would like to see Vernon Bell's
> at Home account (c646697-a.eugene1.or.home.com (24.176.48.129)) remain
open.. maybe you don't like me, or my world.. you don't have to
> do it for me or for my world.. but at least do it for my dream....
thanks..
> :.-(
>
> Sadly, yet sincerely, yours,
>
> John Bell
>
>
> Here is the e-mail i got today that ruined a lot more then my attitude..
>
> You are in violation of the at Home Acceptable Use Policy, available at
> http://www.home.com/support/aup/
> SPECIFIC VIOLATION(S):
> at Home network residential customers may not resell, share, or otherwise
> distribute the Services or any portion thereof to any third party without
> the written consent of at Home. For example, you cannot provide Internet
> access to others through a dial up connection, host shell accounts over
the
> Internet, provide email or news service, or send a news feed.
> You may not run a server in connection with the at Home residential service,
> nor may you provide network services to others via the at Home residential
> service. The at Home residential service includes personal Webspace accounts
> for publishing personal Web pages. Examples of prohibited uses include,
but
> are not limited to, running servers for mail, http, ftp, irc, and dhcp,
and
> multi-user interactive forums. For information about at Work products for
> commercial or network services purposes, including commercial-grade remote
> LAN access, please see <http://work.home.net>.
> Prohibited activities include... disseminating material which violates the
> copyright or other intellectual property rights of others. You assume all
> risks regarding the determination of whether material is in the public
> domain.
> FURTHER VIOLATIONS WILL RESULT IN THE TERMINATION OF YOUR HIGH SPEED DATA
> SERVICE.
> Action Required: Remove all servers/copyrighted materials immediately.
> Failure to comply will result in the termination of your service. Reply
to
> this warning acknowledging you have received and understand the
> violation(s).
> Cory Altheide
> Internet Security Coordinator
> AT&T Broadband Legal Demands Center
> abuse at home.com
> (800)871-6298
>
> RELATED LOGS:
> http://www.awjbell.com/hosting.html
> http://24.176.48.129/mp3s/
>
> Message-ID: <3A8849A4.109 at 1starnet.com>
> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:37:56 -0600
> From: K y l e <shred at 1starnet.com>
> ***
>
> ... a new news server to get the 'ole keyboards rattlin'. Hey JBell, what
> kinda connection is this hosted on?
>
> From: "JBell" <jbell1983 at home.com>
> ***
>
> cable.. it might seem slow to run a news server on.. but connections are
so
> inoften, when you think about it.. they are only connected to DL messages,
> and to send messages.. all the time reading is not connected.. so really
it
> doesn't take much at all... a lot less bandwidth then hosting a world,
> which i do three of, and they work fine.. hehe
>
> --
>
> J B E L L
> http://platinum.awjbell.com
> G O I N G P L A T I N U M
>
> Message-ID: <3A888341.5060002 at 1starnet.com>
> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 18:43:45 -0600
> From: K y l e <shred at 1starnet.com>
> ***
>
> Cable will probably do well as long as you don't get too much traffic.
Just
> make sure your visitors don't post huge files or in HTML.
>
> --
> K y l e
> Triton Dynamics, Inc.
> "Through cyberspace, we are Virtually United"
> www.vrunited.net
>
> From: "JBell" <jbell1983 at home.com>
> ***
>
> html posts suck... they take longer to DL and on my side-more space.. not
> that posts take much space to begin with.. but still!
>
> --
>
> J B E L L
> http://platinum.awjbell.com
> G O I N G P L A T I N U M
>
> [cba at securityscan cba]$ scann 24.176.48.129
> Tue Apr 17 17:40:00 EDT 2001
> Starting nmap V. 2.53 by fyodor at insecure.org <mailto:fyodor at insecure.org>
(
> www.insecure.org/nmap/ <http://www.insecure.org/nmap/> )
> Interesting ports on c646697-a.eugene1.or.home.com (24.176.48.129):
> (The 1516 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
> Port State Service
> 21/tcp open ftp
> 80/tcp open http
> 81/tcp open hosts2-ns
> 119/tcp open nntp
> 135/tcp open loc-srv
> 137/tcp filtered netbios-ns
> 138/tcp filtered netbios-dgm
> 139/tcp filtered netbios-ssn
> 641/tcp open unknown
> 653/tcp open unknown
> 1080/tcp filtered socks
> TCP Sequence Prediction: Class=random positive increments
> Difficulty=18613 (Worthy challenge)
> Remote operating system guess: Windows 2000 RC1 through final release
> Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 70 seconds
>
>
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Apr 23, 2001, 9:21pm
The rules apparently aren't against commercial operations, just servers in general. I don't take kindly at all to at Home's rather
public intrusion into semi-private information though, and who knows how much information they could be gathering "Haha, look at
this lame little cyber zombie. Thinks he's found himself a girlfriend"
After experiencing at Home's anti-serverness first hand, when doing a closed IP access ONLY test run of an HTTP server to make sure I
had the software installed and configged right, I'm nearly positive that they're 100% against any server on their connection, I'm
sure if you were playing on a game server of your own for more than an hour they'd be on your case.
[View Quote]"felix2001" <homeworkkid at msn.com> wrote in message news:3ae4b1f7 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Well j b e l l i think what you were doing was illegal. Maybe you should
> host for free? ;)
> "j b e l l" <jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message
> news:3add0257 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> telling me i can't host anything.. I understand not
> host my own.. i've spent so much time and money on my worlds
> in my support.. but it's hard to see something you've
> sunset.. I understand with them i'm not supposed to host
> survivor where it is today.. and to see it all gone is just a
> little notice that you would like to see Vernon Bell's
> open.. maybe you don't like me, or my world.. you don't have to
> thanks..
> the
> but
> and
> to
> so
> it
> Just
> (
>
>
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Apr 23, 2001, 10:46pm
No. No. No. Jbell was NOT doing anything ILLEGAL... But in many
of these ISP's they want you to purchase the BUSINESS Account version.
And that in many cases is really OVER KILL for the small person trying
to get started.
It's great that SEARS or Amazon.com has the money to buy a business
account. BUT with the average person looking to make a few extra
Holidays $$ and they are expected to pay what Sears or Amazon.com
pays just to make a few extra $$ for the Holidays... IS STUPID.
Unless Jbell manages to win some sort of lottery & has all that much.
But then... Now days you have to look real hard to find the right
ISP for you to build from a individual to a small business without being
taken to the cleaners while doing it.
felix2001 <homeworkkid at msn.com> wrote in
<3ae4b1f7 at server1.Activeworlds.com>:
>Well j b e l l i think what you were doing was illegal. Maybe you should
>host for free? ;)
[View Quote]>"j b e l l" <jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message
>news:3add0257 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>telling me i can't host anything.. I understand not
>host my own.. i've spent so much time and money on my worlds
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Apr 24, 2001, 11:05am
[View Quote]"jfk2" <gkieffer at twcny.rr.com> wrote in message news:908CD0991gkiefferaznetcom at news.activeworlds.com...
> No. No. No. Jbell was NOT doing anything ILLEGAL...
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But if he (or the person who the account is billed to) agreed not to do it via contract, then running a server is a breach of that contract... Stupid at Home :/
-Agent1
Apr 24, 2001, 5:29pm
not only that.. heh.. at Home told me to switch to their at Work program, I willingly called the at Work program who informed us that
at Work was not available in our area..
how stupid can you get..?
[View Quote]"agent1" <Agent1 at my.activeworlds.com> wrote in message news:3ae57a0a at server1.Activeworlds.com...
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: "jfk2" <gkieffer at twcny.rr.com> wrote in message news:908CD0991gkiefferaznetcom at news.activeworlds.com...
: > No. No. No. Jbell was NOT doing anything ILLEGAL...
:
: But if he (or the person who the account is billed to) agreed not to do it via contract, then running a server is a breach of that
contract... Stupid at Home :/
:
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: -Agent1
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Apr 25, 2001, 4:24am
Then I'd nicely ask them that since under the circumstances would they
please allow you to do what you've been doing until they add the at work in
your area.
Casay
[View Quote]"j b e l l" <jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message
news:3ae5d40d$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> not only that.. heh.. at Home told me to switch to their at Work program, I
willingly called the at Work program who informed us that
> at Work was not available in our area..
>
> how stupid can you get..?
>
>
> "agent1" <Agent1 at my.activeworlds.com> wrote in message
news:3ae57a0a at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> :
> : "jfk2" <gkieffer at twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
news:908CD0991gkiefferaznetcom at news.activeworlds.com...
> : > No. No. No. Jbell was NOT doing anything ILLEGAL...
> :
> : But if he (or the person who the account is billed to) agreed not to do
it via contract, then running a server is a breach of that
> contract... Stupid at Home :/
> :
> :
> : -Agent1
> :
> :
>
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