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Objects makers in AW // CommunitytallanAug 16, 2005, 11:21pm
I feel that it is time that I speak to the news groups about something that
has been going on a long time in AW. First of all I would like to share with all of you all the sights that I know of where you may download free objects 1. http://www.greatbuildings.com/ 2. http://www.3dvalley.com/models.shtml 3. http://www.renderosity.com/ 4. http://www.tgeweb.com/object-archive.htm 5. http://www.the3dstudio.com/product.aspx 6. http://www.3dnuts.com/models.shtml 7. http://www.3dcafe.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=38 8. http://www.alusion-fr.com/fr1f.htm 9. http://www.murasaki3d.net/downloads.html 10. http://nwvault.ign.com/ These are but a few of the thousands of sites with free objects for use in AW, it is my hope that all of the world owers enjoy these sites and have fun building in their worlds. Now as to the issue I would like to talk about. I have been accused of taking these objects and reducing the polies in them and telling people they were mine by Queen Ramelothis all started back when her VR husband had her try to coerce me into reducing poly's on some things that Pelican had given them , it was a clipper ship and a Cinderella carriage , I reduced the cinderella Carriage for them but would not do the clipper ship because I had seen it online and told them this later the RaMels broke up over this and Pelican left AWand closed his world, I would imagine to clear out all the things he was selling that he had gotten from offline. There are many people in AW that know me and Have talked to me live while I was modelling and they can tell you that if I convert something from online and I (Give it Away) I tell the person it is going to that I did not make the object. You see, converting things and giveing them away is not a sham it is helping world owners who would otherwize have to pay exobatant prices for them. Now, what is a problem is, Object makers taking these objects and in many cases never even changing the names and trying to sell them in AW. I do not sell my Objects , I give them freely to anyone who wants them and I shall continue to do so as long as I make them. I have almost got a perfect horse, by the way every horse in aw at one time was a chorse, but none of them are perfect they have a flaw, and that is that you can see through the nose and eyes if you look into them, The chorse I took apart in wings and reconstructed does not have this flaw. Even the unipeg has this flaw because every horse was made from a chorse ie. a horse is a chorse of course of course LOL. Now to end all of this I would like to say that the petty bickering and backstabbing in AW must stop or there wont be an AW for anyone to fight in. If this were kids acting like this I would laugh about it but it is not it is grown adults acting like children and this is sad. So stop fighting and go build your worlds and make them a place people want to Visit. this will be my one and only post to this news group. I thank you all for your time strike rapierAug 16, 2005, 11:51pm
Paragraphs plz. Then I can read it.
-- - Mark Randall http://zetech.swehli.com baroAug 17, 2005, 12:06am
That's one of the reason's I'll never pay money for objects. But I'm always
up for a fun trade! AW should just be a relaxing hobby, not some huge stressfull business full of copywrites and rip offs and ego-tantrums. tart sugarAug 17, 2005, 2:00am
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Geeeez, Louise. Here. [View Quote] These are but a few of the thousands of sites with free objects for use in AW. It is my hope that all of the world owners enjoy these sites and have fun building in their worlds. Now as to the issue I would like to talk about. I have been accused of taking these objects and reducing the polies in them and telling people they were mine by Queen Ramel o. This all started back when her VR husband had her try to coerce me into reducing poly's on some things that Pelican had given them. It was a clipper ship and a Cinderella carriage. I reduced the Cinderella carriage for them but would not do the clipper ship because I had seen it online and told them this. Later the RaMels broke up over this and Pelican left AW and closed his world, I would imagine to clear out all the things he was selling that he had gotten from offline. There are many people in AW that know me and have talked to me live while I was modelling and they can tell you that if I convert something from online and I (Give it Away) I tell the person it is going to that I did not make the object. You see, converting things and giveing them away is not a sham. It is helping world owners who would otherwise have to pay exobatant prices for them. Now, what is a problem is, Object makers taking these objects and in many cases never even changing the names and try to sell them in AW. I do not sell my Objects. I give them freely to anyone who wants them and I shall continue to do so as long as I make them. I have almost got a perfect horse. By the way, every horse in AW at one time was a chorse, but none of them are perfect. They have a flaw, and that is that you can see through the nose and eyes if you look into them. The chorse I took apart in wings and reconstructed does not have this flaw. Even the unipeg has this flaw because every horse was made from a chorse ie. a horse is a chorse of course of course LOL. Now to end all of this I would like to say that the petty bickering and backstabbing in AW must stop or there wont be an AW for anyone to fight in. If this were kids acting like this I would laugh about it but it is not. It is grown adults acting like children and this is sad. So stop fighting and go build your worlds and make them a place people want to visit. This will be my one and only post to this news group. I thank you all for your time aura lilyAug 17, 2005, 2:08am
So what i'm getting from reading your post is that creative people should
not create stuff for sale? Maybe I misunderstood. onesummerAug 17, 2005, 3:05am
Thanks TaLLan for all those links, and free objects too! I also want to say
thanks for all the donations you've given to Cit Bingo, Elvandor World. Regards OneSummer [View Quote] eshiikaiAug 17, 2005, 4:09am
I would like to thank you for finally saying what most dost say. These
practices you spoke of are very true in fact, and have been for a long time. Some of the things people have been doing like selling downloaded objects is immoral and illegal. Maybe now people will take more notice. nightraven.Aug 17, 2005, 4:47am
Free stuff and freedom.....
Isnt the world wide web wonderful ? It is full of wonderful things to see, read and yeah even download it for free. Yess free ! While we have to pay for almost everything in real life, the web is one of the last resorts where things are really free. Isnt that a thing that we all like, and hope it will remain so ? Well if I would give somethin away for free only to find it for sale later in some other place, that would really discourage me from givin somethin for free ever again.... So yess Tallan, i agree with you 100 % somethin that was found for free should be guven away for free again and not sold.... ok so far with that... Now for another thing. Backstabbing and fighting in aw... A lot of people are doin or sayin stuff all the time that i could never agree to or even kinda hate seein it happen.... but ....do i need to stand up because of that, entering the chorus of yellin, sometimes cussin or even start revenging actions ? I say no !! First its not worth all the stress. Second and maybe much more important is, it makes our wonderful playfield Activeworlds lookin like a sad and miserable place to others that are comin in the first time. I love Activeworlds and all the wonderful things we can do in there and i hope that other newcomers will do so too... So what ? you might ask... well Activeworlds is big, really biiig. So i take what happens just like i do in real life. Yin and Yang, an old chinese philosophy tells us about the naturally needed harmony of opposite things. All what is, ...must be... its a natural balance. It is that what gives us the freedom of choice. I like free stuff and i like freedom too ! So if i dont like somethin what i see somewhere i simply go to another place (in AW or in RL) and create somethin opposite to make the freedom of choice even bigger... think of that... its worth it... lets enjoy this freedom together and keep peace in the world. Please, please, please stop fighting whereever a fight is goin on. I think that is the only way to make the virtual AND the real world a better place. Love and peace to all... Nightraven nightraven.Aug 17, 2005, 4:52am
Free stuff and freedom.....
Isnt the world wide web wonderful ? It is full of wonderful things to see, read and yeah even download it for free. Yess free ! While we have to pay for almost everything in real life, the web is one of the last resorts where things are really free. Isnt that a thing that we all like, and hope it will remain so ? Well if I would give somethin away for free only to find it for sale later in some other place, that would really discourage me from givin somethin for free ever again.... So yess Tallan, i agree with you 100 % somethin that was found for free should be guven away for free again and not sold.... ok so far with that... Now for another thing. Backstabbing and fighting in aw... A lot of people are doin or sayin stuff all the time that i could never agree to or even kinda hate seein it happen.... but ....do i need to stand up because of that, entering the chorus of yellin, sometimes cussin or even start revenging actions ? I say no !! First its not worth all the stress. Second and maybe much more important is, it makes our wonderful playfield Activeworlds lookin like a sad and miserable place to others that are comin in the first time. I love Activeworlds and all the wonderful things we can do in there and i hope that other newcomers will do so too... So what ? you might ask... well Activeworlds is big, really biiig. So i take what happens just like i do in real life. Yin and Yang, an old chinese philosophy tells us about the naturally needed harmony of opposite things. All what is, ...must be... its a natural balance. It is that what gives us the freedom of choice. I like free stuff and i like freedom too ! So if i dont like somethin what i see somewhere i simply go to another place (in AW or in RL) and create somethin opposite to make the freedom of choice even bigger... think of that... its worth it... lets enjoy this freedom together and keep peace in the world. Please, please, please stop fighting whereever a fight is goin on. I think that is the only way to make the virtual AND the real world a better place. Love and peace to all... Nightraven nightraven.Aug 17, 2005, 4:56am
Free stuff and freedom.....
Isnt the world wide web wonderful ? It is full of wonderful things to see, read and yeah even download it for free. Yess free ! While we have to pay for almost everything in real life, the web is one of the last resorts where things are really free. Isnt that a thing that we all like, and hope it will remain so ? Well if I would give somethin away for free only to find it for sale later in some other place, that would really discourage me from givin somethin for free ever again.... So yess Tallan, i agree with you 100 % somethin that was found for free should be guven away for free again and not sold.... ok so far with that... Now for another thing. Backstabbing and fighting in aw... A lot of people are doin or sayin stuff all the time that i could never agree to or even kinda hate seein it happen.... but ....do i need to stand up because of that, entering the chorus of yellin, sometimes cussin or even start revenging actions ? I say no !! First its not worth all the stress. Second and maybe much more important is, it makes our wonderful playfield Activeworlds lookin like a sad and miserable place to others that are comin in the first time. I love Activeworlds and all the wonderful things we can do in there and i hope that other newcomers will do so too... So what ? you might ask... well Activeworlds is big, really biiig. So i take what happens just like i do in real life. Yin and Yang, an old chinese philosophy tells us about the naturally needed harmony of opposite things. All what is, ...must be... its a natural balance. It is that what gives us the freedom of choice. I like free stuff and i like freedom too ! So if i dont like somethin what i see somewhere i simply go to another place (in AW or in RL) and create somethin opposite to make the freedom of choice even bigger... think of that... its worth it... lets enjoy this freedom together and keep peace in the world. Please, please, please stop fighting whereever a fight is goin on. I think that is the only way to make the virtual AND the real world a better place. Love and peace to all... Nightraven nightraven.Aug 17, 2005, 5:14am
Free stuff and freedom.....
Isnt the world wide web wonderful ? It is full of wonderful things to see, read and yeah even download it for free. Yess free ! While we have to pay for almost everything in real life, the web is one of the last resorts where things are really free. Isnt that a thing that we all like, and hope it will remain so ? Well if I would give somethin away for free only to find it for sale later in some other place, that would really discourage me from givin somethin for free ever again.... So yess Tallan, i agree with you 100 % somethin that was found for free should be guven away for free again and not sold.... ok so far with that... Now for another thing. Backstabbing and fighting in aw... A lot of people are doin or sayin stuff all the time that i could never agree to or even kinda hate seein it happen.... but ....do i need to stand up because of that, entering the chorus of yellin, sometimes cussin or even start revenging actions ? I say no !! First its not worth all the stress. Second and maybe much more important is, it makes our wonderful playfield Activeworlds lookin like a sad and miserable place to others that are comin in the first time. I love Activeworlds and all the wonderful things we can do in there and i hope that other newcomers will do so too... So what ? you might ask... well Activeworlds is big, really biiig. So i take what happens just like i do in real life. Yin and Yang, an old chinese philosophy tells us about the naturally needed harmony of opposite things. All what is, ...must be... its a natural balance. It is that what gives us the freedom of choice. I like free stuff and i like freedom too ! So if i dont like somethin what i see somewhere i simply go to another place (in AW or in RL) and create somethin opposite to make the freedom of choice even bigger... think of that... its worth it... lets enjoy this freedom together and keep peace in the world. Please, please, please stop fighting whereever a fight is goin on. I think that is the only way to make the virtual AND the real world a better place. Love and peace to all... Nightraven king ramel oAug 17, 2005, 10:05am
Let me start out by stating the Cinderella Carriage was and will be 100% all
MINE... I have the step by step design as I went thru it. The clipper ship never heard of it and would have never asked you to do anything on it. I have never taken anyone models and modified it then claimed it to be mine much unlike yourself Tallan. Recently I was in AW Teen and seen a very similar palm tree to the one that you had claimed to be your own design and creation hmmm lets look at that. Yup the same retextured but still the same. You want to open this can back up recently many ppl have come forward and spoke very ill of you and your "hosting" of their worlds how they would create a model and suddenly it would appear in your world as a freebie or slightly modified KT original BS. I admitted my part in the theft of the space ship to all and u just carry it on much like a grade-schooler. You want to keep it going fine then we will bring out all the dirt and stuff we have heard and seen proven about you in the last few months. You think you are the almighty Tallan guess what you have more enemies than friends. We did not realize how many you had until you like a big ol whiny baby cut one of the nicest ppl off the radio station for what ... Veger attended a party think about it you big baby. We come to the gate now and then just to see what's up and you know Veger stands there has a good time and you get in his face every time. Whether be just standing in front of him or like last night copy and paste anything we said. Just an annoying child is all you are and ever will be... BTW ppl that have their worlds hosted by Tallan should be careful of their customs objects its been proven that they "disappear" [View Quote] queen ramel oAug 17, 2005, 10:14am
Gessh, You Admit to Redoing ppl Stuff Tallan,
you Lay out the URL,s of Free Objects then said: TaLLan: now if ya want that helm but way low poly talk to me I made it TaLLan: lol King RaMel o: if that stuff is on their site and you made them ???? wouldnt that be copyright infringement ? You Sure Didn,t Reply then did ya?.. [View Quote] king ramel oAug 17, 2005, 10:15am
btw the palm I speak of is called plmbroad.rwx in AWTeen
The one Tallan says is his original is called kt-plmbroad2 And was told by Tallan it was his own... You be the judge... [View Quote] queen ramel oAug 17, 2005, 10:27am
And As far as the backstaping and stuff?.. look in the mirror... Had a party
Hosted by AWR and you threw a fit like a baby.. Get your Diaper in a wod and kick pppl around cause we listen to other than AWVR. Smurks, wot a Tit....it,s Like if you listen to AWVR, You cant, no other.. Well, you Can,t gain control that way.. and want happen with that object that pelly got into my FTP that was takein care of, and me and pelly Resolved our Different,s...No One Asked you to Shit with it....Just the Carriage You Keep Shit Stir,d up with your Provokeing when We enter AWGate, for Example: Veger o: now if you don't MIND BACK OFF TaLLan: now if you don't MIND BACK OFF "SoupMan": veger grow up plz Aubergine: *gets back in tater sack* "Jonno Huskylab e": Yeah, you made him straight Veger o: GET OUT OF MY FACE you AWVR lackie TaLLan: lol TaLLan: GET OUT OF MY FACE you AWV lackie... Amore Di AngeLo: tallan stop moking him and Others seen and heard you too Tallan Tallan Just Kept Copying wot we said,, This is Harressment !!!... Grow up Tallan, Gesh,, [View Quote] pelicanAug 17, 2005, 11:42am
Why is my name coming up in this Tallan? Everytime I turn around there seems
to be a problem looming and you're the root of it. For everyone's info....the Clipper ship is mine. I made it from scratch including the textures. For the skeptics... http://pelican.frobozz.ws/website/screenshot175.jpg http://pelican.frobozz.ws/website/screenshot176.jpg http://pelican.frobozz.ws/website/screenshot177.jpg http://pelican.frobozz.ws/website/screenshot178.jpg and for anyone not believing the pics and whom needs further proof, here is the source file for the clipper. http://pelican.frobozz.ws/website/Pelican_Clipper.zip Now, since Ive had to do this to clear my name yet once again from all you attention hungry citizens out there, yes Tallan, I mean you, I will never again give away my models to anyone. The clipper ship is now -public domain, retexture it, bend it, shape it, stuff it in Tallan...i dont care. The ship is now copyright and royalty free. Once again Tallan, you have succeeded in making yourself look ridiculous. And, you have not heard the last of me. [View Quote] pelicanAug 17, 2005, 11:47am
hey Tallan,
Someone just told me you gave them a set of tunnels that were the rest of Starheart's free set! If that's true, you're giving away other people's models or you are hyping your own models to be part of someone else's set which isnt true. I saw the tunnel set that you made. One problem, they dont fit anything! I'm letting starheart know and letting him take care of it. Pelican *kiss kiss you little devil you* [View Quote] pelicanAug 17, 2005, 11:51am
We allow behaviour like this?
Telegram from TaLLan, sent Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:01 PM: fuck you asshole you sorry son of a bitchy [View Quote] eshiikaiAug 17, 2005, 6:20pm
People like you disgust me. Just because you were found in the wrong doesnt
give you the right to lie. I talk to TaLLan is voice chat all the time while he is making objects. I happen to know exactly how he does it. TaLL will never lie to you. If he says he made something then he did. If he converted something he always had and always will tell you he did. In these cases where you claim he steals objects, he infact is totally re-making the objects from scratch. That means he basically does it from a picture. Completly remade from scratch as a lower polygon object. In this sense its like you seeing a carriage outside and building it in a modeler (which you are too poor of a modeler to do) but that is besides the point). Either way, he will not sell an object. I know you know this already, so why dont you just accept it and stop pursuing lies. king ramel oAug 17, 2005, 8:24pm
PPL like u disgust me as well u know nothing of the incident...
I let my eyes speak for what I see the model I mentioned in AWTeen is not a Tallan creation and BTW the never once told us he converted it They are exactly the same other than Tallans having a block of something on the bottom... Maybe you should take a look around before YOU speak on something you evidently know nothing about... if you would get your head out of his a** once inawhile you would know that... [View Quote] eshiikaiAug 17, 2005, 11:08pm
Who told you that you have even a mere inkling of what i know or not. The
broadleaf palm model you speak of just makes you look even more like an idiot. That model is from AWUniversity. The models branches were not touching the top of the tree. TaLLan fixed it and did not say that he made it. Oh btw, you might want to stop trying to reverse the situation by claiming the wrong things that you are doing are in fact the correct things TaLL is doing, and vise versa. Your digging yourself deeper and deeper, and you cant hide it. king ramel oAug 17, 2005, 11:50pm
Like I said WTF do u know
He never once told us that it was a freebie from AW Uni He led us to believe that he made it we have the original email for that... Not one of the objects did he ever claim it was retextured or "fixed" BTW without permission to do so is still wrong especially without informing the person he is giving it to is what he did... Tallan is the one dieing a fast death in AW Wake up and jump ship before you go with it... [View Quote] eshiikaiAug 18, 2005, 12:29am
you make me laugh, maybe your abit slow, or maybe your just lieing. either
way, I know who is in the right and who is in the wrong, so as far as this thread goes, I'm finished. As Albert Einstein once said "Great spirts will always encounter violent opposition from mediocre minds". If your wondering who is who between us in that quote, notice how i have kept it civilized, good day. king ramel oAug 18, 2005, 12:53am
Right I am not the one that jumped in and spoke of disgust...
BTW Tallan lies to everyone proven fact over and over... Voice chat does not allow you to see he is actually creating a model or just modeifing someone else's (who's the idiot here). My mind has been clear and at piece it was not me that started slammin ppl without the full knowledge of the events that surrounded this fiasco. You only know of one side... The child like brain of a moron opened it up and we intend to close it for good Mel and I have sat back and taken it watched it and ignored it, We kept our mouths shut and carried on with life in AW but now someone must be bored to drag us in to this we are only defending ourselves from the idiocity before it spreads. Gotta love log files emails and whispers....we keep them all...we are not the ones that shall worry nor faulter. As for my modelling skills I never claimed to be great and you will never know as my models are only for MY world something you will never see... Idiot I am not Foolish I am for beleiving Tallan was honest man and you would be open and optimistic you are as one sided as anyone else that hangs with AWVR guess in time you will find out like many before you have...Tallan way or the highway pppfff Waves to Tallan nice knowing you (not) and have a good day yourself.... And no this will not be my last post as anyone slams me or my wife I will retaliate and defend myself twit. [View Quote] |