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VRT? // Community
Nov 20, 2004, 8:18pm
why does it change from GMT-3 durring daylight savings, to GMT-2 when im not
in daylight savings?.. shouldnt it be the same offset all the time? is VRT
or GMT using daylight savings? or does people who are not in daylight
savings sees it as always being only -2 or only -3? and if so wouldnt VRT
will be different for everyone O_o help me im so confused right now =\
Nov 20, 2004, 8:19pm
*daylight saving
[View Quote]"alexthemartian" <alexthemartian at gmail.com> wrote in message
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> why does it change from GMT-3 durring daylight savings, to GMT-2 when im
> not in daylight savings?.. shouldnt it be the same offset all the time? is
> VRT or GMT using daylight savings? or does people who are not in daylight
> savings sees it as always being only -2 or only -3? and if so wouldnt VRT
> will be different for everyone O_o help me im so confused right now =\
>
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Nov 20, 2004, 8:32pm
VRT time never changes. To understand VRT time check out this site
http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/8382/zone.htm
I used to be +3 hours. Now I'm +4 since Daylight Saving Time went into
effect.
The VRT clock is somewhere in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. : )
Tart Sugar
[View Quote]"alexthemartian" <alexthemartian at gmail.com> wrote in message
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> why does it change from GMT-3 durring daylight savings, to GMT-2 when im
> not in daylight savings?.. shouldnt it be the same offset all the time? is
> VRT or GMT using daylight savings? or does people who are not in daylight
> savings sees it as always being only -2 or only -3? and if so wouldnt VRT
> will be different for everyone O_o help me im so confused right now =\
>
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Nov 20, 2004, 9:48pm
how do you use it online, like in a javascript or in web forums? if i set it
to -2 i will have to change it to -3 during DST becuase it is an hour off if
i dont
[View Quote]"tart sugar" <tartsugar at comcast.net> wrote in message
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> VRT time never changes. To understand VRT time check out this site
> http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/8382/zone.htm
>
> I used to be +3 hours. Now I'm +4 since Daylight Saving Time went into
> effect.
> The VRT clock is somewhere in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. : )
>
> Tart Sugar
>
> "alexthemartian" <alexthemartian at gmail.com> wrote in message
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Nov 20, 2004, 9:51pm
let me put this in other words, if it is always set to -2.. WHY is it one
hour off from what Active Worlds says when i am in DST?
[View Quote]"alexthemartian" <alexthemartian at gmail.com> wrote in message
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> how do you use it online, like in a javascript or in web forums? if i set
> it to -2 i will have to change it to -3 during DST becuase it is an hour
> off if i dont
>
> "tart sugar" <tartsugar at comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:419fd418$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
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Nov 20, 2004, 10:10pm
We've had this discussion before :¬O
It's because daylight savings isn't universal, and not on the same dates
for every country.
[View Quote]alexthemartian wrote:
> let me put this in other words, if it is always set to -2.. WHY is it one
> hour off from what Active Worlds says when i am in DST?
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> "alexthemartian" <alexthemartian at gmail.com> wrote in message
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Nov 20, 2004, 10:13pm
ok.. i got no straight answer, then i giess i just have to change the offset
twice a year >_<
[View Quote]"rossyboy" <rossyboy at vwtv.org> wrote in message
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> We've had this discussion before :¬O
>
> It's because daylight savings isn't universal, and not on the same dates
> for every country.
>
> alexthemartian wrote:
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Nov 21, 2004, 1:19am
or script it to change on certain days? :)
-SWE
[View Quote]"alexthemartian" <alexthemartian at gmail.com> wrote in message
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> ok.. i got no straight answer, then i giess i just have to change the
> offset twice a year >_<
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Nov 21, 2004, 1:44am
i know how to adjust.. i just dont like the fact that i have to. and what i
dont get, is why i have to adjust it if it is
SAPPOSED to be the same year round
[View Quote]"swe" <swe at swehli.com> wrote in message
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> or script it to change on certain days? :)
>
> -SWE
>
> "alexthemartian" <alexthemartian at gmail.com> wrote in message
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Nov 21, 2004, 5:57am
[View Quote]alexthemartian wrote:
> i know how to adjust.. i just dont like the fact that i have to. and what i
> dont get, is why i have to adjust it if it is
> SAPPOSED to be the same year round
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It is the SAME all year around as supposed to be. Your place uses daylight savings which is something not all the world uses.
VRT is related to the GMT (which does not changes by daylight savings), so it is steady GMT-3.
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Andras
"It's MY computer" (tm Steve Gibson)
Nov 21, 2004, 9:33am
yeah, the UK is meant to be GMT but it is only GMT in winter. In summer our
time zone changes to BST (British summer time) and we're GMT+1 then
[View Quote]"andras" <andras at andras.net> wrote in message
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> alexthemartian wrote:
what i
>
> It is the SAME all year around as supposed to be. Your place uses daylight
savings which is something not all the world uses.
> VRT is related to the GMT (which does not changes by daylight savings), so
it is steady GMT-3.
>
> --
> Andras
> "It's MY computer" (tm Steve Gibson)
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Nov 21, 2004, 10:06am
then all these damn scripts online is baseing it off my time, and
calculating GMT from my time zone.. good god thats stupid
[View Quote]"andras" <andras at andras.net> wrote in message
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> alexthemartian wrote:
>
> It is the SAME all year around as supposed to be. Your place uses daylight
> savings which is something not all the world uses.
> VRT is related to the GMT (which does not changes by daylight savings), so
> it is steady GMT-3.
>
> --
> Andras
> "It's MY computer" (tm Steve Gibson)
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Nov 21, 2004, 11:32am
For each daylight saving region, switch dates forth and back are set,
usually by government or international rulings - simply look up those
dates and then implement an if-then switch. :-)
Examples: CET switches on the last sunday in March from 0200 to 0300 and
on the last sunday in October from 0300 to 0200. The USA switches on the
first sunday in April from 0100 to 0200, back like Europe but from 0200
to 0100.
[View Quote]alexthemartian wrote:
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> then all these damn scripts online is baseing it off my time, and
> calculating GMT from my time zone.. good god thats stupid
>
> "andras" <andras at andras.net> wrote in message
> news:41a0587d$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
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Nov 21, 2004, 3:47pm
I believe the answer you're looking for is that VRT is actually based on
UTC, which is the same as GMT. Since there is no DST in UTC/GMT, VRT
doesn't use it either.
Not to be too terribly shameless, but if you're looking for a way to
make a VRT clock with Javascript, check out the VRT Clock on the AWRadio
Schedule page (http://awradio.com/schedule.htm). If you need any help
understanding it, gimme a gram. :)
[View Quote]alexthemartian wrote:
> why does it change from GMT-3 durring daylight savings, to GMT-2 when im not
> in daylight savings?.. shouldnt it be the same offset all the time? is VRT
> or GMT using daylight savings? or does people who are not in daylight
> savings sees it as always being only -2 or only -3? and if so wouldnt VRT
> will be different for everyone O_o help me im so confused right now =\
>
>
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Goober King
In his own time
gooberking at gkstudios.net
Nov 21, 2004, 5:36pm
AHHHH.. if i adjust the time in my computer, the time at the bottom of AW
changes :( why isnt it off a server :((((
[View Quote]"goober king" <gooberking at gkstudios.net> wrote in message
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>I believe the answer you're looking for is that VRT is actually based on
>UTC, which is the same as GMT. Since there is no DST in UTC/GMT, VRT
>doesn't use it either.
>
> Not to be too terribly shameless, but if you're looking for a way to make
> a VRT clock with Javascript, check out the VRT Clock on the AWRadio
> Schedule page (http://awradio.com/schedule.htm). If you need any help
> understanding it, gimme a gram. :)
>
> alexthemartian wrote:
>
> --
> Goober King
> In his own time
> gooberking at gkstudios.net
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Nov 21, 2004, 10:23pm
ok that's weird... i always thought VRT was on the server? My time is 1:04AM
now and VRT says 11:07PM... shouldn't it be 11:04PM so it's in sync with my
computer clock? weird
[View Quote]"alexthemartian" <alexthemartian at gmail.com> wrote in message
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> AHHHH.. if i adjust the time in my computer, the time at the bottom of AW
> changes :( why isnt it off a server :((((
>
> "goober king" <gooberking at gkstudios.net> wrote in message
> news:41a0e2ac$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
make
im
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Nov 21, 2004, 10:53pm
maybe it gets the minutes and secodns from the server, and the offset, then
the hours calculated by adding the offset, to your offset from gmt, plus
your time, or soemthing like that?
-SWE
[View Quote]"josh" <iamthebritisher at joshuacvitan.com> wrote in message
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> ok that's weird... i always thought VRT was on the server? My time is
> 1:04AM
> now and VRT says 11:07PM... shouldn't it be 11:04PM so it's in sync with
> my
> computer clock? weird
>
> "alexthemartian" <alexthemartian at gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:41a0fc62$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> make
> im
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Nov 21, 2004, 11:03pm
or no wait! aw calulates your offset from when you first sign in into aw,
then it's saved, and updates according to your system time! would make alot
more sense that!
-SWE
[View Quote]"swe" <swe at swehli.com> wrote in message
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> maybe it gets the minutes and secodns from the server, and the offset,
> then the hours calculated by adding the offset, to your offset from gmt,
> plus your time, or soemthing like that?
>
> -SWE
>
> "josh" <iamthebritisher at joshuacvitan.com> wrote in message
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Nov 22, 2004, 4:39am
ohhh ok that's logical, my comp clock always ends up going a few minutes
fast and then gets set to the correct time by that clock syncronisation
thing xp has
[View Quote]"swe" <swe at swehli.com> wrote in message
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> or no wait! aw calulates your offset from when you first sign in into aw,
> then it's saved, and updates according to your system time! would make
alot
> more sense that!
>
> -SWE
>
> "swe" <swe at swehli.com> wrote in message
> news:41a14691$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
with
help
when
confused
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Nov 22, 2004, 5:34am
does that mean if i observe DST, and someone else does not, at some point
will what we see as VRT be different?
[View Quote]"swe" <swe at swehli.com> wrote in message
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> or no wait! aw calulates your offset from when you first sign in into aw,
> then it's saved, and updates according to your system time! would make
> alot more sense that!
>
> -SWE
>
> "swe" <swe at swehli.com> wrote in message
> news:41a14691$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
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Nov 22, 2004, 9:25am
It is, but only when you log in.
Displayed VRT = Current Clock Time + (Uni Time Attribute - Clock Time at
Login)
VRT is correct at login, from there on it is treated as an offset.
- MR
[View Quote]"alexthemartian" <alexthemartian at gmail.com> wrote:
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> AHHHH.. if i adjust the time in my computer, the time at the bottom of AW
> changes :( why isnt it off a server :((((
Nov 22, 2004, 11:39am
that would be my guess O_O unless AW checks if the person uses DST?
-SWE
[View Quote]"alexthemartian" <alexthemartian at gmail.com> wrote in message
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> does that mean if i observe DST, and someone else does not, at some point
> will what we see as VRT be different?
>
> "swe" <swe at swehli.com> wrote in message
> news:41a148da at server1.Activeworlds.com...
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Nov 22, 2004, 1:02pm
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> that would be my guess O_O unless AW checks if the person uses DST?
>
> -SWE
>
[View Quote]> "alexthemartian" <alexthemartian at gmail.com> wrote in message
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Nope - the VRT will be the same for all of us.
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Andras
"It's MY computer" (tm Steve Gibson)
Nov 22, 2004, 1:32pm
oh wait ya, come to think of it, wouldn't matter what time the system is on,
since it only calculates the offset :)
-SWE
[View Quote]"andras" <andras at andras.net> wrote in message
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> swe wrote:
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> Nope - the VRT will be the same for all of us.
>
> --
> Andras
> "It's MY computer" (tm Steve Gibson)
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Nov 22, 2004, 4:36pm
okie, gothya ;-)
[View Quote]"strike rapier" <markyr at gmail.com> wrote in message
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> It is, but only when you log in.
>
> Displayed VRT = Current Clock Time + (Uni Time Attribute - Clock Time at
> Login)
>
> VRT is correct at login, from there on it is treated as an offset.
>
> - MR
>
> "alexthemartian" <alexthemartian at gmail.com> wrote:
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