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Apr 18, 2004, 1:16pm

Hey All,
Just wondered, what processor (cpu) and RAM does everyone have on the
computer when using active worlds...
Getting a new computer soon, looking at an Athlon 2600+ with 512mb RAM....

Does anyone else have anything close to this if so does AW run pretty good?

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Apr 18, 2004, 1:20pm

Thats pretty decent specs for AW, get a good graphics card and your sorted.

- MR

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Apr 18, 2004, 1:36pm

got a Radeon 9600Pro... hows that? (graphics card)

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Apr 18, 2004, 3:07pm

[View Quote] I got Athlon 2500+, 512 MB and Radeon 9600 Pro.
Only a middle-level system considering current standards,
but AW runs smoothly even at 200 meters' visibility :)

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Apr 18, 2004, 3:15pm

oooo
Thanks:)

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Apr 18, 2004, 4:40pm

show offs :P am i the only one using an anceint GeForce 3? :)

-SWE

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Apr 18, 2004, 7:25pm

Mine should be quite compareable, it's a dual MP2600+ with
Radeon 9500Pro and 1,5GB RAM. AW does not run on 2 CPUs so
your system should perform better. My second CPU allows me
to run any kind of other stuff withous slowing down AW.

I can even visit Denmark with 200m visibility and 60fps most
of the time :-)


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Apr 18, 2004, 8:24pm

There is (in AW terms) only little difference between a P3/1000, an
athlon XP2000 and a P4/2660 or P4/3200 as long as you have a decent
graphic card. In this case, I tried them out with a GF TI4400, which is
somewhat similar to the new GF5700/5750 and this is comparable to the
ATI9600 - again, in terms of AW performance, which means DX7 and no need
for antialiasing, things look different when you play the latest
DirectX9 game or run huge resolutions with 4 and more levels
antialising, then you would need, in fact, the latest products,
preferably ATI.

Whether you have 256 or 512 MB of main RAM does not really matter, and
the RAM of the graphic cards is usually not used to a higher degree than
64MB anyway.

It mainly depends whether you have antialiasing turned on or off and
whether you run 800*600 or eg. 1600*1200 screen resolution. The higher
the antialisaing level and the higher the resolution, the slower the
whole thing will get (and respectively you need a faster/newer graphic
card then).

CPU speed or type only matters when you do other things at the same time
(eg. when beoing in AW, calculate 50 digit primes while encoding a DIVx
movie and zip your whole drive - in this case you would need a very fast
CPU or even multiple ones...).

So to cut a long story short, any P3/1000+, P4/2400+, AMDT1400 or
AMDXP200+, all will work perfectly when you got at least a GF4 or Radeon
9600 graphic card.

It is more important to have your system configured and tweaked well -
both things can quite well make up for some missing 1000 MHz or RAM...




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Apr 18, 2004, 8:26pm

That's about what I got...Athlon 2600, ATI 9600 pro, and I use have 512 RAM
(1 GB now). I get a good fps in my opinion, suits me well.


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Apr 19, 2004, 3:03am

Actually in my experience since 1998, CPU upgrades do more good for AW that
graphic card upgrades. Some programs are just more CPU sensitive. Anybody
else notice this?


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Apr 19, 2004, 5:39am

Maybe you're running in software rendering mode, use an
OpenGL software emulator or measured with a Pre3.3 version?

I have one P3/550 (Slot1/Katmai) with a Radeon9000 and
it still runs quite smooth and Count Dracula has a
P3s/1133 (Tualatin) with the same Radeon9000 and it's
fine too. (The Tualatin is 3x faster than the Katmai)

The biggest difference between the P3s/1133 and the
P3/550 is when complex models come into range, the first
render takes much longer pn the 550. Once it's there, the
framerate is still acceptable. The dual MP2600+ is not
much better than the P3s/1133 if you run only AW3.3+.

Just all background activity is nearly stopped on the
550MHz one while AW runs, although 3.3+ leaves way
more CPU time for background tasks than 2.2/3.2.


I think, AW runs better with faster CPUs up to a certain
CPU speed. Everything on top doesn't help AW anymore,
from that point only faster video cards increase speed.


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Apr 19, 2004, 7:30am

Well this is from AW 2.1 and out, never ran software mode if I didn't have
to. I remember, the change from 1.3 ghz to XP 2600 was pretty impressive,
and I kept my old Radeon 8500 only upgrading the CPU and mobo. Then I got
the 9800SE later and it wans't very impressive in AW, but a huge different
in other 3d games.

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Apr 19, 2004, 7:43am

Here's my specs, and now and then I get Virtual Memory errors but that may
be due to having my hyperthreading off? Or could be I've got too many
*graphically intense* things open?

ARC 510 (from http://www.goarc.com)
Intel Pentium 4 CPU with SSE2 2.60 GHz
512 MB RAM
running directx 8.1
NVIDIA GEForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8X
Integrated RAMDAC 128 MB
Win XP Pro Version 2002 SP1

Lady NightHawk


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Apr 19, 2004, 9:15am

I remember, the change from 1.3 ghz to XP 2600 was pretty impressive
<<<

When then 1.3 was a Duron, then the switch to a different CPU
architecture can as well have advantages - same with the jump from
Celeron to Pentium.




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Apr 19, 2004, 11:12am

Hi Everyone...

I have the computer people building me my new PC.. so don't expect to see my
online for a few days.. it includes the following:

AMD Athlon 2600+
512MB DDR RAM
80GB HD
RADEON 9600pro Graphix Card
LG 15" LCD Monitor
Windows XP Home
Speakers, Modem etc...

I'm on Windows 98SE At the moment, so please dont reply saying GET XP PRO,
GET MORE RAM, GET A 17" MONITOR, GET BIGGER HD, GET BETTER CPU... Cause I'll
totaly prod my voodoo doll on you (Promise not Threat)...
Thanks :)

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Apr 19, 2004, 1:02pm

Looks good - btw, I have W98SE on all my machines and do, in the context
of what I am doing with the computers, not see any reason to switch to
XP (yes, I know XPpro and have administered a network with it already
<g>). :-)





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Apr 19, 2004, 5:39pm

Not at all =D
In fact WinXP Home is better for games and 3d apps as it has less features,
it uses less resources that way. Besides the only stuff pro has over home
doesn't matter to most people.
80 GB HDD and the XP2600 are sorta the best-bang for the buck products right
now anyway, as you probably know from shopping.
Though if it were up to me, I'd save money by downgrading to a 17" CRT
monitor and use the saved money to buy an Athlon 64 3000+. Besides, the
only thing LCD has over CRT is size and looks. It's slower responding, more
prone to problems, and has that viewing angle thing.


[View Quote] > I'm on Windows 98SE At the moment, so please dont reply saying GET XP
PRO,
> GET MORE RAM, GET A 17" MONITOR, GET BIGGER HD, GET BETTER CPU... Cause
I'll
> totaly prod my voodoo doll on you (Promise not Threat)...
> Thanks :)

Apr 19, 2004, 6:10pm

[View Quote] > Not at all =D
> In fact WinXP Home is better for games and 3d apps as it has less features,
> it uses less resources that way. Besides the only stuff pro has over home
> doesn't matter to most people.
> 80 GB HDD and the XP2600 are sorta the best-bang for the buck products right
> now anyway, as you probably know from shopping.
> Though if it were up to me, I'd save money by downgrading to a 17" CRT
> monitor and use the saved money to buy an Athlon 64 3000+. Besides, the
> only thing LCD has over CRT is size and looks. It's slower responding, more
> prone to problems, and has that viewing angle thing.

The XP Home version I had would not let me change the Administrator
password or give me access to the user/group settings. I could then
connect remotely with no password as administrator wherever I went (even
using remote computer management it would NOT allow me to change it)...
made me feel secure.

On that note, there are two different types of LCD. The one with the
view angle problem is the older style, often the same price as CRT's
now, but the newer style does not have the same problem with the view
angle (something to do with having a seperate transistor for each pixel
or something like that, as the old style had just one for length and
width). As long as you're not cheap (why should you be, you're buying a
piece of technology?), you can get a prefectly comparable LCD to CRT
with the same refresh rates (mine refreshes up to 85Hz... don't imagine
why you would need anything more than 60 though) and no view angle problems.

But, then again, I don't like carrying 60 lb monitors around so that was
a large factor in my choice of monitor. Maybe you like the workout?
Don't know. :)

It's my experience that CRTS are prone to problems as it is... my
friend's monitor turned a green tint after her stereo was too close to
it and she left it on. But, we're all fanboys of something... I have my
nVidia and LCDs, you have your Athlon and CRTs -- I would bet $100 you
would buy an ATI too... you just seem aggressive like they are.

;) I'm bored, can you tell?




As always:
nVidia owns you.

Apr 19, 2004, 7:39pm

I think it's a good combination - well, the WinXP -
I prefer Win2k but you can switch XP into optimized
performance - _looks_ like Win2k then with just one
mouseclick :-)


If it's still too slow, you can increase the FSB and
- if the CPU is unlocked - decrease the multiplier
(so you can increase FSB even more ;-).

I have a couple of NForce2 boards running Seti at Home,
most of them with an XP1800+ (Thoroughbread) running
at 200x10 up to 200x11,5 or 210x10 - depending on their
prime stability. VCore 1,65V - 1,7V.

I do not use them for AW so I cannot tell how they
would perform - they have only older video cards too
and usually no monitor attached. Some do not even a
case.

Needs good cooling though and in summer I will have to
reduce - too hot now already :-/



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Apr 19, 2004, 8:37pm

I'm expecting delivery now of a brand new Dell running XPHome!! Here's
what's under the hood:

Dimension 8300 Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology 3.4GHz w/800MHz FSB,
Microsoft® Windows® XP
Memory 512MB Dual Channel DDR SDRAM at 400MHz (2x256M) 512M4 [311-3001] 3
Monitors 17 in 1703FP UltrasharpT Digital Flat Panel Display 1703FP
[320-3838] 5
Video Card New 128MB DDR GeForce FX 5200 Graphics Card with TV-Out and DVI
128FX52 [320-3751] 6
Hard Drive 120GB Serial ATA Hard Drive, 7200RPM 120SP [462-4819] 8
CD orDVD Drive Dual Drives: 16x DVD-ROM Drive + FREE UPGRADE! 48x CD-RW
Drive DVDCDRP
Sound Card Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 (D) Card with Dolby® Digital 5.1
capability SB1024

BTW, I'm now on my PIII-600Mhz --256M Ram--running win98se. I'm looking
forward to the XP! I'll let you know later on how she runs!

Lady Barbara

Apr 19, 2004, 9:31pm

Build 2600 = pro, not Home.

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Apr 19, 2004, 9:33pm

There's a few user/group settings that you can access through safe mode.
It's been awhile since I've had to do it though. And there's plenty of free
3rd party apps you can use for remote access.
And I was just talking about cheapest LCDs, like the $300 ones I see on
pricewatch. You can get a Phillips 17" for $100. I've had bad experience
with LCDs, and I personally don't care for them. CRTs have been good to me
though. It's totally a user preference though your right. And yes I am AMD
and ATI, we had that long discussion before remember? =P

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Apr 19, 2004, 9:34pm

She?? LOL

> forward to the XP! I'll let you know later on how she runs!
>
> Lady Barbara
>
>

Apr 19, 2004, 9:34pm

AMD XP 2600+, not windows XP build 2600 lol.


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Apr 19, 2004, 9:35pm

Oh..LOL

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Apr 20, 2004, 1:12am

I dispise any manufactorer for allready built computers, like COMPAQ, Dell,
etc.

It's best to go custom... I went, saved lots of money.. awesome computer it
is now :D

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Apr 20, 2004, 2:29am

[View Quote] > There's a few user/group settings that you can access through safe mode.
> It's been awhile since I've had to do it though. And there's plenty of free
> 3rd party apps you can use for remote access.
> And I was just talking about cheapest LCDs, like the $300 ones I see on
> pricewatch. You can get a Phillips 17" for $100. I've had bad experience
> with LCDs, and I personally don't care for them. CRTs have been good to me
> though. It's totally a user preference though your right. And yes I am AMD
> and ATI, we had that long discussion before remember? =P

Samsung has a nice 17" viewable that costs $200 after rebates and fits
your LCD problem. The only problem I have with LCD's is the native
resolution... but I don't play too many games that can't go to 1280x1024.

Apr 20, 2004, 2:46am

Yay, now activeworlds has two new XP users :)
*Says he who has is Packard Bell case open removing cd rom, cd burner,
floppy disk for the new PC*

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Apr 20, 2004, 6:57am

And why not "She" may I ask??
--Barbara
P.S. This is the first time I've upgraded to a name brand complete
configured PC. I just thought I would give it a try--so many I know have
Dells and seem to like them. So....

--Barbara

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Apr 20, 2004, 7:32pm

Ummm....And why do you have the "hyperthreading" off? I'm looking forward
to using it from what I've heard about it.
--Barbara


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