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Oct 25, 2001, 3:54am

I am the only one noticing how few people are on AW anymore? Right not
there's only 250 people online, and there's usualy double that. Not one
person is online on my fairly large contact list, and when they are it's
only a few people.

*goes back to lonely building*

Oct 25, 2001, 4:22am

its october.. everyone is dead or busy or both..



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Oct 25, 2001, 5:02am

Aw can be very seasonal.

Oct 25, 2001, 7:38am

Well, I don't know about other people, but I've been getting bored and frustrated with AW ever since 3.2 was released. What's the point of putting that much time and effort into making something look EXACTLY how I want it only to have it fucked up in the next build because Roland can't keep AW consistent from build to build? Feh...forget that! It's bad enough the so-called "beta testers" miss most of the bugs and only start posting the IMPORTANT bugs after I mention them in the non-beta newsgroups...and even then they're not fixed...

Bah...AW just develops too slowly to hold interest...and AWC's pathetic marketing attempts ("3D homepages" this month) just makes things worse; they just have NO clue (as usual) on how to market and develop AW...

Oh well; perhaps it's time to move on...

[View Quote] > I am the only one noticing how few people are on AW anymore? Right not
> there's only 250 people online, and there's usualy double that. Not one
> person is online on my fairly large contact list, and when they are it's
> only a few people.
>
> *goes back to lonely building*

Oct 25, 2001, 9:55am

Yes - last year I noticed that late October and early November were very
dead times.

But also, take a look at the time you posted this message - 1:54AM. There's
usually not that many people online at that time anyway.

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Oct 25, 2001, 1:18pm

in CET you obviously posted this at 8 in the morning, you won't find all too
many europeans online then, most ppl are eating breakfast or heading to
work. and deducting from what time Brant had, it's the middle of the night
in the US... so obviously you've come in a kind of dead period in the AW
day, you'll have to wait a few hours before you get the stream of europeans
coming and yet a few more hours for the US folks to get back on... doesn't
seem like there are very many ppl that use AW outside Europe and the
Americas...

KAH

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Oct 25, 2001, 2:59pm

we all wish we were has "perfect" as you Eep.....
but thats just not possible. lol

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Oct 25, 2001, 3:19pm

*gets ready for the Christmas rush* :D
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SW Chris
Eagle Scout, Philosopher, Peacemaker, and... Kung Fu Master?
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Oct 25, 2001, 4:18pm

Yea still, I've seen better, and the low numbers go on all day - 400 maybe
at most when it was hovering around a "healthy" 750 for a couple months back
in the day.

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Oct 25, 2001, 5:39pm

couple of months ago = summer = vacation = lots of time for AW ;-))

KAH

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Oct 25, 2001, 8:57pm

after 3.2 aws images has radically gone down to
hell, not that it was very good to begin with.
nothing stays the same from version to version. in
3.0 masks were changed so a lot of builds were
totally worthless after that. 3.2 has a lot of
problems that the beta testers missed. my world
has gone form 4-5 visits a day to 0-2 a week. the
programmers of aw are not doing well at keeping up
with technology. these days you dont expect
something to take a long time to render and you
expect graphics to be past the mid-90's by now. if
aw gets their act together and adds the features
WE ask for instead of what THEY think would be
EASIEST to do, they would probably do ok despite
how poorly they are run. im serious look at their
site. half of the feature descriptions on the
feature vote site say its not likely to happen
because its too hard for them to do. TOUGH SHIT.
im surprised that theyve lasted THIS long with
that kind of thinking. look at sim city 3k from
maxis they spent 2 years totally re-writing it
instead of sticking with the same code and just
changing it over and over. maybe with this new
video stuff aw has been having trouble with, its
time to re-write the whole damn thing, ya think?

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Oct 25, 2001, 10:12pm

As of 10pm VRT Thursday night ~500 users currently online. Not bad
considering, although it would be nice to see the numbers back up to 700 and
800 like before, but hopefully that will come soon :)

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Oct 25, 2001, 10:52pm

The problem is AWC is nowhere near the size of Maxis (SimCity 2000 developers) and so doesn't have the budget (Maxis is owned by Electronic Arts) to hire competent programmers. AWC suffers from management bloat, specifically the fact that Rick and JP make $160K/year. Why? What the HELL do they do besides grind AW into the ground with each new worthless "marketing" attempt and clueless development direction? And I'm sure the influx of Vanguard Enterprises suits hasn't helped either. Feh...AW is going downhill and I'm getting off before it crashes...

[View Quote] > after 3.2 aws images has radically gone down to
> hell, not that it was very good to begin with.
> nothing stays the same from version to version. in
> 3.0 masks were changed so a lot of builds were
> totally worthless after that. 3.2 has a lot of
> problems that the beta testers missed. my world
> has gone form 4-5 visits a day to 0-2 a week. the
> programmers of aw are not doing well at keeping up
> with technology. these days you dont expect
> something to take a long time to render and you
> expect graphics to be past the mid-90's by now. if
> aw gets their act together and adds the features
> WE ask for instead of what THEY think would be
> EASIEST to do, they would probably do ok despite
> how poorly they are run. im serious look at their
> site. half of the feature descriptions on the
> feature vote site say its not likely to happen
> because its too hard for them to do. TOUGH SHIT.
> im surprised that theyve lasted THIS long with
> that kind of thinking. look at sim city 3k from
> maxis they spent 2 years totally re-writing it
> instead of sticking with the same code and just
> changing it over and over. maybe with this new
> video stuff aw has been having trouble with, its
> time to re-write the whole damn thing, ya think?
>
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Oct 26, 2001, 1:38pm

we've heard this drivel from you for years..... when you gonna change
dude?


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Oct 26, 2001, 1:46pm

The numbers were never at 700 or 800. The record for AW's entire universe,
I believe, is about 720 according to Roland. That was an all-time high set
during the Cy Awards.

Sometimes on a Sunday night (which seems to be the busiest night) I see
around 620 people online, which seems to have remained constant.

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Oct 26, 2001, 3:05pm

[View Quote] Actually it has been over 1000 after that show ran in the UK not too long
ago.

F.


>
> Sometimes on a Sunday night (which seems to be the busiest night) I see
> around 620 people online, which seems to have remained constant.
>
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Oct 26, 2001, 10:08pm

"that show" in the UK never said to download
activeworlds... ive never seen it at 1000 dunno
why people amke a big deal about that show aw had
like a 2 minute part in it and the dude was
totally ignored in the show. [sarcasm] great
advertisment :P

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Oct 26, 2001, 10:39pm

I liked the part when Serendipidious took off her clothes. LOL.
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SW Chris
Eagle Scout, Philosopher, Peacemaker, and... Kung Fu Master?
http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html

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Oct 27, 2001, 9:19pm

I've seen it at 800 something before, too bad I didn't get a screenshot of
it. I guess I just spend too much time on AW, lol.

Ox64

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Oct 28, 2001, 11:13am

maybe he's right BB?

its not just the lack of knoeledge in the management, its the ignorance,
I've had many conversatiosn with Rick and one line he has said a few times,
and its stuck with me:

"E N Z O: I will always get a paycheck"

-Gamer (On a diff cit)

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Oct 28, 2001, 11:14am

sorry about typos, tired -_- zzZZ

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Oct 30, 2001, 6:41pm

Maine needs some tech companies. Maybe we can get old retired men who are
rich (my neighbor has a 5000 square foot house for crying out loud) to band
together and raise the $1 million AW is worth so we can get some competent
management in. But I guess we could keep Roland since he actually takes time
(plus he could at least HELP with the programming since he's been doing it
for a while) to at least LISTEN to the community. E N Z O just listens to
anyone who offers him a breifcase full of money. Guess us Mainers should
snatch up AW before Micro$oft does and uses all the worlds to advertise
Winblows XP.

--
-Captain MAD Mike

Jekyl and Hyde...or Android?
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Oct 30, 2001, 11:03pm

That would be the bad. The Borg assimilates Active Worlds. Lol.
"Resistance is futile" should be their motto, not "Where do you want to go
today?" =P
--
SW Chris
Eagle Scout, Philosopher, Peacemaker, and... Kung Fu Master?
http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html

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Oct 31, 2001, 3:36pm

a good bunch of ppl work for the AWC, in my eyes the problem is a management
that doesn't let these ppl do what they should do, which should be done
something about! the AWC's value will probably fall sometime, making them
easyer to take over. one thing about the company that really surprises me is
that they bought that Vanguard company, a company that obviously did
TV-commercials for shampoo, what the heck has that got to do with AW?

KAH

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