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Aug 22, 2001, 10:31pm

AW Community,

Thank you for your support, AWCOM sent me this message:

--- quote
After revaluation of the world "XelaGsuX" we found that it is a direct
attack on another user and does violate our guidelines. This world
has been removed and I apologize for any frustration and inconvenience
this confusion may have caused. Please feel free to contact me
directly if you have any other concerns or questions.
--- unquote

I am personally satisfied by this reply. I hope this kind of incident
will not happen again. Assignment of trial worlds is an automated
automated process. When I personally phoned AWCOM to explain the
situation, I was told their decision would be sent by email. This was
what I received:

--- quote
I spoke to our customer service manager and we can not take the trial
world down from the server.
--- unquote

AWCOM was broadcasting at the time, through their worlds list, a
personal insult at my address. Originally, this was an automated
decision, but AWCOM's reply was human and accepted the automated
decision. I did not accept this situation. . Indeed, as someone
pointed out, I could have been entitled to sue AWCOM for this. This
may be a normal procedure in the US, in Europe we do not usually feed
the lawyers the way you do, it is always a last recourse :) My
approach was to point to the 'moral' side of the issue.

This has been a very trying and tiring day for me. Thank you all
again for helping to set this right. My world, bots and services are
running again as normal. May I point out that everybody is entitled
to their own opinion (about me, about AWCOM, about the rest). If you
wish to fill your world with slander, you are responsible for that.
But if you, as provider, spread othe peoples slander, you - as
provider - are responsible for that. I wish the owner of the former
XelaGsuX world a lot of sucess and happiness, but since he/she never
revealed his/her identity, I would not know how to convey this
message. Maybe Radon can do that for me. According to my bot:

Radon is citizen number 322351, url www.andras.net/aw_ear

Bye,

XelaG :)

Aug 23, 2001, 12:32am

WTG on this reply, Alex!

Please do not feel that all of us in the United States wish to feed the
attorneys. Quite the contrary, I have tried to teach my children to be
proud and dignified enough to stand on their own two feet and think of
alternative solutions when they feel they have been wronged. Many times
they have come home from school saying they want to sue someone for being
wronged. I know they do not get this from me, quite frankly, I'm not sure
where they get it from. Maybe a combination of television and other school
children. However, it is time for it to stop. I wonder how many people
would sue if our country had different laws about monetary settlement? What
if you got a years supply of bubblegum instead of money? My grandmother and
great-grandmother would NEVER have stood for suing over the least little
thing because they felt it was below moral standards.

Think about this: Some say the reason why so many shark attacks have
happened lately in the United States is a result in a tourist attraction in
another country, where they take people underwater with lots of food to
attract sharks so that the tourists can get a glimpse of large masses. The
sharks have learned wherever there is a large gathering of people, there is
food. Therefore, when they see flocks of people in the water, they head
towards them looking for a meal. We've thought of an easy way to see lots
of sharks - a shortcut.

In the case of suing someone, the sharks = money and we are the tourists
seeking to take a shortcut to wealth. It's good for some in the beginning,
but in the end our own moral demise is the outcome.

sinew

[View Quote] Indeed, as someone
> pointed out, I could have been entitled to sue AWCOM for this. This
> may be a normal procedure in the US, in Europe we do not usually feed
> the lawyers the way you do, it is always a last recourse :) My
> approach was to point to the 'moral' side of the issue.

Aug 23, 2001, 2:32pm

I think you are took your anger out on the wrong person in this situation.
AWCOM had nothing to do with the selection of the world name, an individual
user did. I am not saying it was a good thing for someone to name their
world "XelaGsux", but considering a lawsuit against AWCOM over it?

Here is something I found on a site about Slander --

"WHAT ABOUT INSULTS AND EPITHETS? ARE THEY DEFAMATORY?
Generally, no. Usually they are seen as outbursts of emotion, with no real
substance, except to show intense dislike.
DON'T I HAVE A RIGHT TO EXPRESS MY OPINION?
Yes, so long as your statement of opinion is just an opinion, not containing
specific facts that can be proved untrue."


BCG


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Aug 23, 2001, 2:38pm

he didn't say he would sue them....someone else said that he COULD and Xelag
said he wouldn't

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Aug 23, 2001, 4:51pm

Well Xelag, I have 2 citizenships which means I have 2 free trial worlds
which I haven't used. You are welcome to use them at your convenience for
those 2 months until mid-december (when the accounts close). I will not be
renewing my citizenship for either one until AWCOM listens to me as well.

This may help you or may not, let me know if it will. I can give you my
email if interested.

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Aug 23, 2001, 7:14pm

What about me? You and you're bots... lol.

[View Quote] > AW Community,
>
> Thank you for your support, AWCOM sent me this message:
>
> --- quote
> After revaluation of the world "XelaGsuX" we found that it is a direct
> attack on another user and does violate our guidelines. This world
> has been removed and I apologize for any frustration and inconvenience
> this confusion may have caused. Please feel free to contact me
> directly if you have any other concerns or questions.
> --- unquote
>
> I am personally satisfied by this reply. I hope this kind of incident
> will not happen again. Assignment of trial worlds is an automated
> automated process. When I personally phoned AWCOM to explain the
> situation, I was told their decision would be sent by email. This was
> what I received:
>
> --- quote
> I spoke to our customer service manager and we can not take the trial
> world down from the server.
> --- unquote
>
> AWCOM was broadcasting at the time, through their worlds list, a
> personal insult at my address. Originally, this was an automated
> decision, but AWCOM's reply was human and accepted the automated
> decision. I did not accept this situation. . Indeed, as someone
> pointed out, I could have been entitled to sue AWCOM for this. This
> may be a normal procedure in the US, in Europe we do not usually feed
> the lawyers the way you do, it is always a last recourse :) My
> approach was to point to the 'moral' side of the issue.
>
> This has been a very trying and tiring day for me. Thank you all
> again for helping to set this right. My world, bots and services are
> running again as normal. May I point out that everybody is entitled
> to their own opinion (about me, about AWCOM, about the rest). If you
> wish to fill your world with slander, you are responsible for that.
> But if you, as provider, spread othe peoples slander, you - as
> provider - are responsible for that. I wish the owner of the former
> XelaGsuX world a lot of sucess and happiness, but since he/she never
> revealed his/her identity, I would not know how to convey this
> message. Maybe Radon can do that for me. According to my bot:
>
> Radon is citizen number 322351, url www.andras.net/aw_ear
>
> Bye,
>
> XelaG :)

Aug 23, 2001, 7:16pm

Can I use one, m a r c u s?

[View Quote] > Well Xelag, I have 2 citizenships which means I have 2 free trial worlds
> which I haven't used. You are welcome to use them at your convenience for
> those 2 months until mid-december (when the accounts close). I will not be
> renewing my citizenship for either one until AWCOM listens to me as well.
>
> This may help you or may not, let me know if it will. I can give you my
> email if interested.
>
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Aug 23, 2001, 7:45pm

Possibly, but right now Xelag is the only one whom I have seen handle issues
concerning Active Worlds in not only a positive manner but productive.
Everything from emailing him for help on the Xelagot program to having a
program I can enjoy without being swindled for more cash.

For Active Worlds to not screen his name before worlds are able to be seen
on a worlds list so that something like which just happened is wrong. I
think instead of wasting the 2 months a world could be up for free, it
should go to someone that knows how to use it. Active Worlds can pay the
cost running it.

I am glad the issue got resolved, but if it happens again then what?

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Aug 26, 2001, 7:41pm

Thank you Marcus, but the issue has now been settled :)

XelaG

On 23 Aug 2001 14:51:42 -0400, "m a r c u s" <i_have_a_site at yahoo.com>
[View Quote] >Well Xelag, I have 2 citizenships which means I have 2 free trial worlds
>which I haven't used. You are welcome to use them at your convenience for
>those 2 months until mid-december (when the accounts close). I will not be
>renewing my citizenship for either one until AWCOM listens to me as well.
>
>This may help you or may not, let me know if it will. I can give you my
>email if interested.
>
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