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john // User Search

Peacecity

Jan 26, 2003, 8:21am

that, I dont know.
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Peacecity

Jan 26, 2003, 8:22am

Anyway, I didnt mention the port.

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Peacecity

Jan 26, 2003, 2:07pm

thats true . lol
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Peacecity

Jan 26, 2003, 7:19pm

I didn't agree on any rules? I'm a little confused?

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Did you think it wasnt releasing the port it was the fact you took 3.4 to
Peace? Which is against the rules you agreed apon...

just my 2 cents...

-Ryan

---------------

What rules?

Lil confused here

~John

3.4 > Killamo

Jan 30, 2003, 12:14pm

Well, considoring i've never seen any rules relating to aw, I didnt agree to
any.

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3.4 > Killamo

Jan 30, 2003, 7:20pm

Lol.... heh.. erm, why dont they have terms & conditions then? I mean when u
signup.

I used a diff univ to upgrade to 3.4.. :-S

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3.4 > Killamo

Feb 1, 2003, 8:08am

excuse me, but I am not a beta tester nor did I signup for AW Beta
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3.4 > Killamo

Feb 1, 2003, 1:08pm

I havn;t seen a contract nor can I find 1

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3.4 > Killamo

Feb 1, 2003, 8:04pm

I clicked the bit on the site which auto-installed it and didnt show
ANYTHING

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3.4 > Killamo

Feb 1, 2003, 8:56pm

Well thats not my fault if AW don't show it.

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3.4 > Killamo

Feb 2, 2003, 11:09am

W/E

Render? do you mean like 3d rendering?

At no point have I ever agreed to any terms and conditions for aw, nor have
I seen them

I therefore cannot be blamed for breaking terms & conditions i've never even
seen.

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3.4 > Killamo

Feb 2, 2003, 11:55am

If its not a public viewing contract then people don't have the option to
agree to it or not.

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3.4 > Killamo

Feb 2, 2003, 11:55am

BTW, losers, I don't have 3.4 anymore..idiots

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3.4 > Killamo

Feb 2, 2003, 12:12pm

What contract?

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3.4 > Killamo

Feb 2, 2003, 12:13pm

I didn't install AW the usual way... i used the "launch aw" button on the
site which auto-installed and didn't show this.

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"carlbanks" <CarLBanks at insight.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3e3d254d$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Here is the contract when you install AW.
>
> ACTIVE WORLDS BROWSER END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT
>
> BY CLICKING ON THE "NEXT" BUTTON, YOU ARE CONSENTING TO BE BOUND BY AND
ARE
> BECOMING A PARTY TO THIS AGREEMENT. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO ALL OF THE
TERMS
> OF THIS AGREEMENT, CLICK THE "CANCEL" BUTTON AND THE INSTALLATION PROCESS
> WILL NOT CONTINUE. IF THESE TERMS ARE CONSIDERED AN OFFER, ACCEPTANCE IS
> EXPRESSLY LIMITED TO THESE TERMS.
>
> GRANT. Subject to the terms of this Agreement, Activeworlds.com, Inc.
> ("AWCOM") hereby grants you a limited, personal, nontransferable,
> nonsublicensable, royalty-free, nonexclusive license to use one copy of
the
> client software product you are about to install in object code form
> ("Software") for the purpose of accessing the Active Worlds server and
using
> the Active Worlds software resident thereon ("AW Software").
>
> You may: copy the Software for archival purposes, provided any copy must
> contain all of the original Software's proprietary notices; you may use
the
> AW Software subject to the terms and conditions of this license.
>
> You may not, directly or indirectly: modify, translate, reverse engineer,
> decompile, disassemble (except to the extent applicable laws specifically
> prohibit such restriction), create derivative works based on, or otherwise
> attempt to discover the source code or underlying ideas or algorithms of
the
> Software or AW Software; or copy (except for archival purposes as set
forth
> above), rent, lease, distribute, transfer or otherwise transfer rights to
> the Software or AW Software; use the Software or AW Software for
timesharing
> or service bureau purposes; or remove any proprietary notices or labels on
> the Software or AW Software.
>
> SOFTWARE. This license does not grant you any right to any enhancement or
> update. Furthermore, this license does not grant you continued access to
AW
> Software.
>
> SUPPORT. This Agreement does not entitle you to any maintenance,
upgrades,
> patches, enhancements, fixes, new versions or other support ("Support
> Programs") for the Software or AW Software; provided, however, that if you
> download or otherwise obtain in any manner any Support Programs they shall
> become part of the Software and the terms of this Agreement shall apply.
>
> TITLE. As between the parties, title, ownership rights, and intellectual
> property rights in and to the Software and AW Software, and any copies or
> portions thereof, shall remain in AWCOM and its suppliers or licensors.
The
> Software and AW Software are protected by the copyright laws of the United
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> intellectual property rights in and to any software, data, information,
> text, pictures, images, avatars, characters, sounds, personalities, or
other
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> Software is the property of the applicable owner and may be protected by
> applicable copyright or other law. This License gives you no rights,
title,
> or interest to Content (including without limitation Content that you post
> or create on the Active Worlds server) except the limited license to use
the
> AW Software as described above.
>
> DISCLAIMER OF WARRANTY. THE SOFTWARE, AW SOFTWARE, AND ANY SERVICES THAT
> YOU RECEIVE FROM AWCOM, ARE PROVIDED "AS IS." AWCOM HEREBY DISCLAIMS ALL
> EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION WARRANTIES OF
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>
> LIMITATION OF LIABILITY. You assume the entire risk as to the quality and
> performance of the Software or AW Software. AWCOM assumes no liability for
> the cost of any service or repair if the Software or AW Software is
> defective. Further, you assume the responsibility of, and any costs or
> liability associated with, making a connection (by any means) to the
Active
> Worlds server, and you understand that the Software and AW Software will
not
> operate without such a connection.
>
> AWCOM exercises no screening, editorial, or other control over Content
> available to you through your use of the Software and AW Software, and
> Content may include material that could be deemed distasteful, misleading,
> inaccurate, offensive, pornographic or otherwise objectionable.
Furthermore,
> use of the Software or AW Software does not guarantee any privacy or
> confidentiality of any Content you post or make available through the
> Software and AWCOM assumes no responsibility or liability for the
> preservation of such Content and may modify or remove it at AWCOM's sole
> discretion. You hereby release AWCOM from any and all liability for all
> claims related to Content as well as claims related to the security or
level
> of privacy provided.
>
> UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES AND UNDER NO LEGAL THEORY, TORT, CONTRACT, STRICT
> LIABILITY, OR OTHERWISE, SHALL AWCOM OR ITS LICENSORS, SUPPLIERS OR
> RESELLERS BE LIABLE TO YOU OR ANY OTHER PERSON FOR ANY INDIRECT, SPECIAL,
> INCIDENTAL, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION,
DAMAGES
> FOR LOST PROFITS, LOSS OF GOODWILL, WORK STOPPAGE, COMPUTER FAILURE OR
> MALFUNCTION, OR ANY AND ALL OTHER COMMERCIAL DAMAGES OR LOSSES. IN NO
EVENT
> WILL AWCOM BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES IN EXCESS OF AWCOM LIST PRICE FOR A
> LICENSE TO THE SOFTWARE, EVEN IF AWCOM SHALL HAVE BEEN INFORMED OF THE
> POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES.
>
> TERMINATION. AWCOM may, at its sole discretion, terminate this Agreement,
> the license granted herein, and your right to use or access the Software,
AW
> Software, or the Active Worlds server at any time. On termination, you
must
> destroy all copies of the Software.
>
> ARBITRATION. Any claim alleging a violation of any duty incident to this
> Agreement, or your use of the Software or the AW Software, or arising out
of
> any transaction occurring in Active Worlds, irrespective of the legal
theory
> asserted, is subject to binding arbitration. This means that both sides
> give up all rights to a jury or court trial. The arbitration will take
> place, at your choice, either on-line before the Active Worlds Tribunal,
or
> before a panel of arbitrators at the American Arbitration Association
> offices in San Diego, California. In the latter instance, both sides shall
> pay half of the fees and expenses associated with the arbitration
> proceeding itself, but each side shall be responsible for all costs
> associated with traveling to the site of the arbitration, preparing for
the
> arbitration, and hiring counsel, if desired. In both cases, both sides
> shall select an arbitrator from a randomly generated list of available
> arbitrators, and those two arbitrators shall select a third.
> No punitive or consequent damages (including without limitation statutory
> "multiplied," e.g. treble, damages) shall be awarded and the arbitrators
> shall be made aware of this limitation.
>
> EXPORT CONTROLS. None of the Software, AW Software or underlying
> information or technology may be downloaded or otherwise exported or
> re-exported (i) into (or to a national or resident of) Cuba, Iraq, Libya,
> Yugoslavia, North Korea, Iran, Syria or any other country to which the
U.S.
> has embargoed goods; or (ii) into any country in which the U.S. has
> embargoed goods, or to anyone on the U.S. Treasury Department's list of
> Specially Designated Nationals or the U.S. Commerce Department's Table of
> Deny Orders. By downloading or using the Software, you are agreeing to the
> foregoing and you are representing and warranting that you are not located
> in, under the control of, or a national or resident of any such country or
> on any such list.
>
> MISCELLANEOUS. This Agreement represents the complete license agreement
and
> supersedes all prior agreements and representations and may only be
amended
> by a writing executed by the parties. If any provision of this Agreement
is
> held to be unenforceable for any reason, such provision shall be reformed
> only to the extent necessary to make it enforceable. This Agreement shall
be
> governed by and construed under Massachusetts law.
>
> U.S. GOVERNMENT RESTRICTED RIGHTS. Use, duplication or disclosure by the
> Government is subject to restrictions set forth in subparagraphs (a)
through
> (d) of the Commercial Computer-Restricted Rights clause at FAR 52.227-19
> when applicable, or in subparagraph (c)(1)(ii) of the Rights in Technical
> Data and Computer Software clause in DFARS 252.227-7013, and in similar
> clauses in the NASA FAR Supplement.
>
> Created and produced by Activeworlds.com, Inc.
>
>

3.4 > Killamo

Feb 4, 2003, 8:23pm

Brains must not be your native lang.... it was a joke.

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AW3000 - ILLEGAL UNIVERSE

Feb 4, 2003, 7:21pm

OMG, you're serious?

ITS ILLEGAL! :-O

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What is worth fighting for?

Feb 5, 2003, 3:44pm

Why do you think I'm an Athiest :-D

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What is worth fighting for?

Feb 5, 2003, 7:06pm

Lol

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What is worth fighting for?

Feb 5, 2003, 9:46pm

I watched a prog on tv once and this bloke (on british tv) couldn't even
smoke outside the statue of liberty... hardly freedom.. hehe... (he was told
not to)

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What is happening to AW?

Feb 6, 2003, 6:09pm

Anywhere Mr.B.... its the $$$

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What is happening to AW?

Feb 7, 2003, 8:33pm

I agree wizard... loads of people I knew are leaving and I have nothing to
do when I go on AW now, maybe build... whats the fun of building on your
owN??

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WILL EVERYBODY SHUT UP

Feb 6, 2003, 7:46pm

WILL EVERYBODY SHUT UP WITH YOUR STUPID LITTLE ARGUMENTS ABOUT PEOPLE DYING
AND THAT "WHY SHOULD WE BUILD A MEMORIAL FOR 7 PEOPLE" AND WARS AND STUFF.

WHY DO YOU ALL NEED TO ARGUE? WHAT IS IT... THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING/ABLE
TO PAY FOR CITS STILL ARE A LOAD OF ARGUING, IRRITATING MORONS?

WILL EVERYBODY SHUT UP

Feb 6, 2003, 8:13pm

*SORRY* but everybody everywhere is arguing!

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WILL EVERYBODY SHUT UP

Feb 7, 2003, 9:07am

I posted this because I didn;t realise that the newsgroups were designed for
fighting and arguing.

I thought they might be to discuss aw and maybe help people with questions
and queries. And I also thought it was a place to post information and not
somewhere where every bit of information posted is contradicted or put down.

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Earth

Feb 9, 2003, 9:14am

*raises hand*

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Ok just my opinion

Feb 9, 2003, 9:23am

Well I think that Mr B was unfortunate and that it wasn't his fault. Idiots
on the ng have no right to attack him.

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"a1ctbuilder" <A1CTWorld at aol.com> wrote in message
news:3e4636d3 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> OK, You can all blast this post too with hatred, but here goes.
> As a citizen of AW and the user of a loaner cit, a world cit at that, I
just
> want to say this.
> I am very saddened over the response Mrbruce got when he turned to you
> people for help and suggestions.
> People here in another post criticized the guy instead of showing you were
> indeed a concerned group of people.
> I am a builder in A!!CT, I was fortunate enougth to build it's new GZ.
> I (like many of you may have) have builds in this world. Now it appears
that
> when A!!CT's renewal date was arriving, another citizen told Mrbruce he'd
> renew it. Mrbruce agreed to let the person do it if it meant that much to
> them.
> The day came when A!!CT's Immigration officer announced (Warning this
world
> exspires in 30 days) It was on this date that FeNiX successfully renewed
> A!!CT for another year.
> skeptical Mrbruce feared the 15 year old was using a stolen credit card,
> feared the worse, but waited to see what would happen.
> 2 weeks went by, no problems had arisen, FeNiX also had purchased two
other
> worlds, months before, those were still running.
> So Mrbruce took some of his money he saved to renew A!!CT into buying
> objects from Paul and Ivie and decided to upgrade A!!CT to a P-130 with
the
> rest.
> Everything was fine, 2 months had gone by, A!!CT was still running,
FeNiX's
> other older purchases were still running. Then one day on Febuary 16th
> everything went to hell.
> A!!CT was exspired! 2 months into its renewal, Mrbruce and all his world
> cits were marked FRAUD!
> It turns out FeNiX used his mother's credit card with out her permission,
or
> so she told AW that and AW shut A!!CT down.
> It took closing 3 worlds one owned by Mayor Taz and all the money Mrbruce
> put into his worlds exspanion to get A!!CT back! But all that got him was
a
> P90 not the p-130 A!!CT once was.
> The guy was devistated, there are builds out past 90 north owned by who
> knows who, those builds as Mrbruce claims are in limbo. This hurt A!!CT
> immentsly, people offened by this left, their builds...their hard work...
> invisble..stuck in a void.
> Mrbruce had talked to Tom about what the cost would be to get that land
back
> open to building again. Tom told him $780.00. Mrbruce said to me he is at
> hardtimes now, his car needs a new cylander head, The elderly mother he
> supports went crazy buying QVC shop at home junk. So hes trying to keep a
> home over thier heads and realizes he's now having a tough time getting
his
> world back to where it was before FeNiX renewed.
> Tom suggestion asking for help from the community, he thought what Mrbruce
> was doing was a great thing and thought the community would stick by him
in
> his time of need.
> Mrbruce did that, he posted here and asked his fellow AW citizens for help
> and suggestions. From what I ahve read here 3 out of 30 people had
something
> good to say.
> The rest of you kicked the guy while he was already kicked to the ground.
> Do you all think after all the good he has done you people were fair to
him?
> Sorry folks no cigar...one anti post leads to more anti posts and now a
> simple call to the community has resulted in an "attack or be attacked"
> issue. A good thread went bad!
> You as adults should be as you say you are (mature enough) to be able to
> avoid conflicts. I do not see that in most posts in the thread I speak of.
> The more you attacked Mrbruce the more i seen him get hurt all the more
and
> caused him to post his anger.
> Think before you post, the guy has feeling just all of you do.
> Finally, it is brought to my attention by bruce that maki has telegrammed
> him with messages unlike the ones seen here. I wanted to post them here,
but
> bruce won't let me know what they are or what they say and only said they
> were positive messages.
> I have spoke my piece. peace be with you.
> With war on the way..whether the USA is right or wrong, its time we all
> stuck together.
> Bruce will not post here, but what you say here in response to this thread
> will prove who you are.
>
>

Fighting, arrogance, immaturity... etc

Feb 9, 2003, 2:43pm

I agree with ya neo :-)

Why d'ya think I posted "Will everybody shut up"

Its because i'm so sick & tired of reading through a post because I want the
same information as the person who posted the original and I find loads of
arguments, etc.

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Fighting, arrogance, immaturity... etc

Feb 9, 2003, 5:09pm

*Raises hand*

I'm 14......very odd.. lol!

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