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Jul 24, 2004, 2:08am
Forgive me if I accuse you without cause, I have been noticing that people
in this thread have chosen to be personally insulting and it doesn't help
when we, as a world, are facing such devastating events.
Cheers
Hu
[View Quote]"poseidon" <poseidon at draeda.com> wrote in message
news:4101db5a at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I wouldnt say Ive flamed, or threatened you. Its against my personal
policy.
> If I were flaming you, you would have come back to 10+ replys from me to
> everything you've written ;)
>
> Poseidon
>
> "hu" <miracleweb at hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4101da11$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
we
> they
> from
equally
trivialities
> of
> similarly?
for
> disagree
your
> you -
> of
LOSING
be
News,
> facts
> of
> because
> ignore
> The
> and
> have
> We
the
the
American
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to
> and
> worst
> the
Butchers, -
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Jul 24, 2004, 2:13am
Indeed, this is an opportunity for the world community to expose the
corruption of individuals and governments everywhere; in fact we must, if we
are going to survive in a free state on this fragile planet of ours.
Cheers
Hu
[View Quote]"lady murasaki" <Murasaki at murasaki3d.net> wrote in message
news:4101df76$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> As if France and other European countries didn't have oil driven interests
> to go against the war?
> The Justice Ministry in Iraq's interim government uncovered documents
about
> suspect oil deals in Saddam's regime.
>
> There was a list of 271 companies, politicians and organizations that
> allegedly benefited from the former Iraqi regime by getting large amounts
of
> cut-rate oil that would earn kickbacks when sold by oil brokers.
>
> France is one of the countries favored most as the list documents 11
French
> recipients of oil allotments, including a businessman with ties to the
> French President, a diplomat who served under Chirac when he was prime
> minister and a former French ambassador to the United Nations.
>
> You can read about that in an "unbiased" report February 9, 2004 issue of
> L'Express. http://www.lexpress.fr
>
>
>
>
> "hu" <miracleweb at hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:41017f0c at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> is
are
> as
> cronies
> Iraq
US
> to
stayed
> doing
> Iraqi
country,
in
> troops
themselves
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>
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Jul 24, 2004, 3:59am
Hi carolann,
I am totally grateful to be here and I have stated what my aim is, to get
people to vote Bush out. You are obviously feeling defensive about the
atrocities, illegal elections etc, that the Butcher Bush government have
unceasingly perpetrated since thieving the government of this country.
I will not stay here if Bush steals the government again either but this is
not a personal criticism of any individual Americans though it is an
indictment, a blot even on the so called democratic system that y'all hold
so dear.
If you feel personally attacked by anything I have to say in this thread
that is entirely your business and you are entitled to your beliefs and
feelings. Your discomfort or mine is small though when you consider the
babies, the solders and the civilian population of Iraq. I am sorry for your
pain I mean that truly however my residency in this land is meaningless to
me in the face of the needless devastation it is perpetrating. I am a
citizen of THIS PLANET and the man made borders created to separate,
isolate, and imprison are meaningful only to those who are trying to defend
something that is often NOT their own.
Don't get me started on the rape of the recourses and peoples of our plant
by US Big Business carolann. Most of what you mean when you say "don't eat
at my table then tell me the milk was curdled" has come to your table from
the pillaging of big business in the rest of the world. FACT: America has
just 5% of the world's entire population but it gobbles up a massive 30% of
the worlds recourses. There are many more statistical facts that I will not
bring up here that show that America is more part of the problem than part
of the solution so come down out off the clouds.
I believe that all of the problems can be solved as long as democracy is
maintained and even that with the advent of the Patriot Act is in jeopardy.
I believe that Government in this country is out of control and it is only
with the VOTE that that can be corrected.
Cheers
Hu
[View Quote]"carolann" <carolannh at charter.not> wrote in message
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> And I would have to add that he treads on dangerous water by assuming that
a
> good many of the natural citizens of this country are not as savvy as he
is,
> though (or because?) his residence is by the grace of a green card.
Perhaps
> many of us plan to use the bloodless voters ballot rather than some bloody
> citizen uprising? Isn't that preferable? If only it could always be that
way
> everywhere. Hu, what do you want anyway? We don't need to read Active
Worlds
> news groups to have our eyes opened to anything besides what should be
> contained here. I am sure that anyone who cares enough has his or her own
> plan of action and this "insight" will not sway a single person even a
> little bit. The others that don't care are probably laughing their avs
off.
>
> Hu, I welcomed you when you acquired a green card to stay in this country,
> (why then did/do you want one?), not once but twice, but your foreign-born
> status does not mean you can see things we cannot see. You have been here
> how many years now? And it is by choice, you have options yet you chose to
> stay. I am happy to see many people enjoy visiting or moving to my home,
but
> don't eat at my table then tell me the milk was curdled. I can see that
and
> will do something about it without being told. People resent having the
> obvious pointed out to them, and then be expected to jump. If it is not
> obvious to them, resentment is for unwanted criticism. So it is best leave
> it to forums where it is sought out. Because you live so close to me, my
> guess is that you and I are basically privy to the same public
information.
> I, too, am fully able to decide for myself what should and can be changed,
> and what part I can and will play in it.
>
> "poseidon" <poseidon at draeda.com> wrote in message
> news:4101d5a8$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> claim
> their
the
> saying,
"nation"
> or
> thats
because
> that
dictator
> all
>
>
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Jul 24, 2004, 2:34pm
Yes Derek,
You are right but American freedoms were never real because of the terrorism
America itself practiced before and since 9/11. Weather you believe me or
not America is the consummate terrorist organization but it tells others
they can't be. America possesses mega weapons of mass destruction yet it
tells others that they cannot have them, double standards don't work. I'm
sorry to say it but if one lives by the sward one must expect to die by the
sward.
BTW Derek you might think you hear a lot about terrorists through the news
media but what you here is ONLY what the western tourists want you to here
to keep you in line and in support of their brand of terror.
Cheers
Hu
But American freedoms were never real because of the terrorism
[View Quote]"the derek" <thederekdispose-newsgroups at yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> personally im tired of hearing about this shit
> the terrorists have won
> i cannot travel by plane without a security officer "patting me down" they
> have turned what was a fun way to travel into a nightmare
> i cannot turn on the tv without hearing the word terrorist or iraq
> i cannot even read the AW Ng's without listening to it
> agree with me or not-the terrorists still alive dont care about iraq-they
> have taken a chunk of our rights as americans-freedom
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Jul 24, 2004, 2:45pm
I would only say one other thing to you personally carolann, I can't vote in
this country (it's stupid because I live here) but I can encourage others to
vote. That is my soul intention, to encourage huge numbers of people in this
nation who do not vote to do so in this election.
In an election year this close to the time of casting votes there is no
place (even the sacred AW NGs) that one aught not to discuss the state of
this nation.
It seems quite a lot of you passively agree with me as this is quite a busy
little string.
Cheers
Hu
www.darksharman.com
[View Quote]"carolann" <carolannh at charter.not> wrote in message
news:41021700$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>
>
>
> Hi hu, My responses are intermingled with your questions in the most
> friendly fashion.
>
get
>
>
>
> We've already heard that elections are coming up. This particular one
> happens every four years, no more than 2 terms each, for good reason. This
> news group is made up of so many who don't live in the US that you
shouldn't
> even plague them with that tip.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Me? What have I done? I don't even believe in war of any kind. I am not
> allowed (nor do I want) to kill my neighbor if I disagree with him, why
> should Any government be? ANY. I just think there are ample forums out
there
> where people want to discuss this stuff. Let's you and I discuss what
you've
> been building lately. I remember you were quite good at it. You and
> Dreamtime had some interesting things with unique concepts going there. I
> hope you are still enjoying them. AW should be like a swimming pool or a
> hiking trail..a place to unwind and relax until you have to get back into
> r/l for another day of.real life.
>
>
>
> government have
> is
>
>
>
> I didn't think it was, and didn't take it that way, but I'd prefer my
> editorials on the editorial page.
>
>
>
system
> that y'all hold so dear.
>
>
>
>
> Nope. I didn't take it personally, nor did it sound anti-American except
> that you didn't give us credit for enough intelligence to question what
goes
> on around us. And we shouldn't be discussing it here.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> No doubt about it. Or anywhere that people are suffering. I felt that way
> before March 2003 though, including about the civilians of Iraq. I've done
> something actual about it-pitifully inadequate though it was. But let's
> discuss it in private real life or even private AW worlds among interested
> others.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> No need. As you said, our pain is trivial.
>
>
>
> defend
>
>
>
> I have to say-I have always thought that was kind of silly myself. But as
> you know, those borders were drawn long before you and I came along to set
> them straight. Everyone seems to have them. I kind of get the feeling that
> making borders is an almost ingrained instinct of man. We do it in all
sorts
> of ways; cities, countries, shower curtains, dog houses, private towns and
> worlds in AW.
>
plant
>
>
>
> Ok hu. The whole world shares in that guilt in varying degrees, though,
but
> big business can be heartless. (as can individuals).
>
>
>
from
>
>
>
> No hu, we live in Wisconsin. You KNOW where my milk comes from.
>
>
>
gobbles
> up a massive 30% of the worlds recourses. There are many more statistical
> facts that I will not bring up here
>
>
>
> ok. (then I don't have to respond I really hate being guilty of my own
> complaint.)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I've been out of the clouds and in the trenches for years. Don't
> underestimate my awareness.
>
>
>
>
> Right. Let's see if it works.
>
>
>
only
>
>
>
> If the Gov't is out of control-the vote means nothing. If the vote can
> correct it, the Gov't is not out of control.
>
>
>
>
> Cheers back,
>
> CarolAnn
>
>
>
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Jul 24, 2004, 2:49pm
Would that the western terrorists Be tourists in reality. LOLOLOL
(sorry bout the spelling error)
Cheers
Hu
www.darksharman.com
[View Quote]"hu" <miracleweb at hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:41028fa7$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Yes Derek,
>
> You are right but American freedoms were never real because of the
terrorism
> America itself practiced before and since 9/11. Weather you believe me or
> not America is the consummate terrorist organization but it tells others
> they can't be. America possesses mega weapons of mass destruction yet it
> tells others that they cannot have them, double standards don't work. I'm
> sorry to say it but if one lives by the sward one must expect to die by
the
> sward.
>
> BTW Derek you might think you hear a lot about terrorists through the news
> media but what you here is ONLY what the western tourists want you to here
> to keep you in line and in support of their brand of terror.
>
> Cheers
>
> Hu
>
> But American freedoms were never real because of the terrorism
> "the derek" <thederekdispose-newsgroups at yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:410232af$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
they
iraq-they
>
>
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Jul 24, 2004, 4:52pm
How refreshing and predictable that the sanity that finally enters this
discussion had to be from someone from neither the (old) UK Empire nor the
(new) US Empire. Thanks Andras for your thoughtful input, personally I had
decided that BRO's comments were beneath my ability to answer as I use my
mind to think of this situation in it's global context.
I wonder how these faulty empires keep emerging when all they seem to be
based on is the class oppression of their own people, greed, and very small
minded double standards that they impose aggressively upon the rest of the
world?
The thing I find the most surprising in this particular empire (The US) is
that it is the desperately poor and uninsured classes that seem to defend
the system that keeps them down. And it is also from the under privileged
classes that they draw there army solders - I guess they aren't much good
for anything but battlefield fodder they sure as hell don't seem to be able
to think independently enough to say. ENOUGH OPPRESSION ALREADY.!!!
Cheers
Hu
www.darksharman.com
[View Quote]"andras" <andras at andras.net> wrote in message
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> bro wrote:
>
> Why don't YOU move there? at least you'll feel how the people live there
and what the killing means. It is easy to protest from your comfy living
room.
>
anyway
>
> The USA is his/her country too - you have no right to claim it as only
yours. I would bet my one year salary that Hu gave more to our country than
%95 of the population!
>
>
> Does it really matter?
>
is
>
> As almost everybody on the face of the Earth :)
>
>
> Right now Hu is feeding himself/herself without any help of you.
>
>
> Bro, you are dead wrong here.
> The immigrants to the US bring the knowledge and wisdom what your school
system forgot to squeeze into your kids head.
> Why is that that the most valuable immigrants for your country are the
well educated engineers, doctors, teachers, etc? Did you ever check the
requirements for an immigrant visa (sorry, it is called now permanent
residency :)?
> If you think they shouldn't be in the US then you just don't understand
the need of the gray cells of the American economy.
> I met several 20+ years old who simply can't subtract two numbers in their
head :( I wouldn't talk about the teens who can't read and write even after
a college graduation.
> I witnessed once when the electricity was out that the cashier burst in
tears because she couldn't calculate the change from a $10 bill for a $8.47
bill (she was 19 years old as she told). Don't you think the problem lies
somewhere else?
> Your rude comments are just a great example how the citizens' brain can be
manipulated: immigrants? - that should be bad!!! What if they are
terrorists? Hey - they demand things!!! Ouch - some immigrants criticize
us!!! Nooo - we should expel ALL immigrants!!!
> Immigrants are not GUESTS but a major part of the US economy!
> <I'm not talking about the cheap labor Mr Bush just legalized>
>
views
>
> Few of us tried - our head is still in place :)
>
that
>
> That is the big fear Hu (and several others) have :(
>
> --
> Andras
> "It's MY computer" (tm Steve Gibson)
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Jul 24, 2004, 7:31pm
Thank you builderz, I have added that link to my site here:
http://www.darksharman.com/
Yes you are right, I to have seen solders on the BBC complaining bitterly
about the war and also in the film Fahrenheit 9/11. It is very obvious to me
though that American politicians believe that the poor here are a disposable
population. That was the real point of my statements and as well if I can
incite so form of rebellion amongst the poor so that they can start to band
together and say, ENOUGH!
Cheers
Hu
www.darksharman.com
[View Quote]"builderz" <contact at 3dhost.net> wrote in message
news:4102d12d$2 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> If you look at recent polls, Bush and Kerry are nearly tied, so I can
> see where you are coming from when you want to try and make every vote
> count.
>
> I don't agree with you, however, when you say that soldiers can't think
> independently. Have a look at this article:
>
> "U.S. soldiers seek asylum in Canada"
> http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2004/07/27691.php
>
> Builderz
>
> hu wrote:
>
is
defend
privileged
good
able
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Jul 24, 2004, 8:42pm
[View Quote]"count dracula" <dracula at netsonic.fi> wrote in message
news:4102df5e at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I would also be interesting in knowing it, maybe you woul like to share?
:)
>
> First it was the massdestructionweapons, when they did not find them, it
was
> Al-Quaida, when they did not find proof for that,,, what is latest update
> for reason for war? ( I mean the official one that white middle class
use).
>
> D
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The latest reason for the war = American APATHY, all you need to do is look
through this string to see that, most are more excited about attacking me as
a migrant, or the validity of this post in an AW NG rather than the nearly
1000 solders that are mince meat and the legless and armless babies in Iraq.
NONE OF THEM MENTION THAT.
Yes American apathy is the most resent CAUSE of the WAR in Iraq. Instead of
getting pissed off with me (which does not effect me in the least BTW, I
couldn't care less what you think of me) why not get pissed off at your so
called leaders and use your 1st amendment right to demonstrate to STOP THE
KILLING NOW!
Cheers
Hu
www.darksharman.com
> "jerme" <JerMe at nc.rr.com> kirjoitti viestiss
> news:41028295 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>
>
Jul 26, 2004, 5:07pm
Hi Jag,
What either of us believes makes no difference to the facts as they are;
Fact: Bush insisted that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, he was WRONG.
Fact: Bush insisted Iraq was in bed with the Taliban, he was WRONG. Fact:
Bush defied the UN and bulldozed your country into an illegal war, he was
WRONG.
I am not attacking your country, I respect America and its people, and I'm
not even attacking Bush. What I am doing is telling the truth about the
illegal dealings of a corrupt organization. Whilst the Republican Party
defends and supports the policies of the Bush White House it is a corrupt
organization that is completely undeserving of the patronage of the American
people.
I realize that in the past you, as Americans have had some incredible men in
the presidency however recently the trend has be towards the fraudulent end
of the scale. I can understand that historically you have been behind your
presidents 100% and now there is actually a crook in the White House it must
be devastating for you.
All I can do is support you in your efforts to heal the situation so that
you can reclaim a righteous presidency that you are proud of and a respected
position in the world community. I swear I will leave America if Bush is
re-elected and you will not hear from me in a political capacity again. I am
not generally a politically motivated person however I the current climate I
feel I am as responsible as anyone else to do all I can to heal the world!
Cheers
Hu
www.darksharman.com
[View Quote]"jaguar hahn" <markterrell at bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:41054d98$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Hu I beleive nothing of you, and am not falling for your bullcrap lies.
You
> have a right to your opinion but I'm sticking up for my country.
>
> Jag
>
> "swe" <swe at swehli.com> wrote in message
> news:4102f3fc at server1.Activeworlds.com...
Much"
>
>
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Jul 26, 2004, 6:14pm
Correction: I ment to say Al-Queda not the Taliban in the above post!
Cheers
Hu
www.darksharman.com
[View Quote]"hu" <miracleweb at hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4105565e at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Hi Jag,
>
> What either of us believes makes no difference to the facts as they are;
> Fact: Bush insisted that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, he was
WRONG.
> Fact: Bush insisted Iraq was in bed with the Taliban, he was WRONG. Fact:
> Bush defied the UN and bulldozed your country into an illegal war, he was
> WRONG.
>
> I am not attacking your country, I respect America and its people, and I'm
> not even attacking Bush. What I am doing is telling the truth about the
> illegal dealings of a corrupt organization. Whilst the Republican Party
> defends and supports the policies of the Bush White House it is a corrupt
> organization that is completely undeserving of the patronage of the
American
> people.
>
> I realize that in the past you, as Americans have had some incredible men
in
> the presidency however recently the trend has be towards the fraudulent
end
> of the scale. I can understand that historically you have been behind your
> presidents 100% and now there is actually a crook in the White House it
must
> be devastating for you.
>
> All I can do is support you in your efforts to heal the situation so that
> you can reclaim a righteous presidency that you are proud of and a
respected
> position in the world community. I swear I will leave America if Bush is
> re-elected and you will not hear from me in a political capacity again. I
am
> not generally a politically motivated person however I the current climate
I
> feel I am as responsible as anyone else to do all I can to heal the world!
>
> Cheers
>
> Hu
> www.darksharman.com
>
>
> "jaguar hahn" <markterrell at bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:41054d98$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> You
> Much"
>
>
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Jul 27, 2004, 2:01pm
Drac you are so funny - but your point is very serious... AWers are burying
their heads in the proverbial sand as usual...
Cheer
Hu
www.darksharman.com
[View Quote]"count dracula" <dracula at netsonic.fi> wrote in message
news:41061da3$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Well I guess it somehow does. Since AW is situated in USA, the laws of US
> affects them. If the paranoia people get their will fullfilled, AWI is
soon
> obligated to keep a record for 5? years of everyone who is in AW, who they
> talk to and what they say. Who knows someone might be in here trying to
> make a massdestructionweapon.rwx.
>
> D.
>
> " free the world from religoins and pecae will be" -Dracula 12:12 pm
>
> "jerme" <JerMe at nc.rr.com> kirjoitti viestiss
> news:4105d508$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
share?
> :)
it
> was
> update
> use).
community.
>
>
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Jul 27, 2004, 6:17pm
Well it's only you in all the world that still believes that... Bush has
been WRONG about almost everything, he is the bigest joke in the world ...
Cheers
Hu
www.darksharman.com
[View Quote]"jaguar hahn" <markterrell at bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:4106a8d5$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> He wasnt WRONG on Weapons. They could have been detonated, hidden or
shipped
> off. Just because we haven't found them doesn't mean they aren't there.
> There are indeed Taliban members in Iraq. Yes and I agree he should have
> gotten UN approval.
>
> Otherwise the rest of your writing is very respectful, you are indeed
> correct.
>
> Jag
>
>
>
> "hu" <miracleweb at hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4105565e at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> WRONG.
Fact:
was
I'm
corrupt
> American
men
> in
> end
your
> must
that
> respected
I
> am
climate
> I
world!
lies.
>
>
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Jul 28, 2004, 1:52pm
I think jaguar, that they commonly refer to one who refuses to accept
reality as, insane, or at least an Ostrich because Ostriches tend to bury
their heads in the sand rather that face something...
jaguar face it, with the super modern spy satellites, heat seeking devices,
and other gadgetry the US now possess they can find anything they want to
find even on the moons of neighboring planets.
I don't know even why I'm bothering to continue with this overtly obvious
line of bullshit you are spinning. Though I wouldn't put it past Bush to
plant something (if anyone will help him now) to prove he was right so he
can win the election. Bush is not just a joke, he needs to be watched
closely because he is overtly an EVIL man.
Cheers
Hu
New updates in: www.darksharman.com
[View Quote]"jaguar hahn" <markterrell at bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Just because we haven't found them doesn't mean they aren't/weren't there.
> Hu, YOU are the biggest joke I've ever heard of :o)
>
> Jaguar Hahn
>
> "count dracula" <dracula at netsonic.fi> wrote in message
> news:41076d0e$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
accept
> me
the
> not
was
there.
have
> are;
was
he
and
> the
> Party
incredible
> fraudulent
behind
> it
Bush
> is
> again.
> Too
>
>
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Jul 28, 2004, 5:50pm
There she goes again proving to all her unsurpassed intellect - Sharon you
would have more of an effect if your were reasonable and did not attempt to
be insulting - Believe it or not there are a lot of people in this country
that agree with you but they also want to be polite about it. You are
entitled to your views and you are entitled to be respected for them, but
the respect part is earned.
Cheers
Hu
New updates here: www.darksharman.com
[View Quote]".sharon" <slclarke at adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> Yes why are you bothering. For attention? Shut up!
>
>
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Jul 29, 2004, 1:30pm
[View Quote]"jaguar hahn" <markterrell at bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> It would be more effective if you realized that it is not your country and
> you should get a life :o)
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You say that as though you are here by some divine right yourself or that
you think somehow that America is mystically separate from the rest of the
world. You came to this country and invaded it so it's only yours as an
America because you stole it and murdered its rightful owners.
America's problems are EVERYBODY'S business, I could leave but that would
hardly do anything, every country is affected by this stupid war and the
politics of interference and not collaboration that the Butcher Bush insists
on. No, I think not, if it is to happen, Ill shall stay in Rome and watch
her fall from the inside.
By the way, I never for a moment was under any sort of illusion that a
Republican would hear anything I have to say. You are experts are stealing
from the poor and destitute and badmouthing your detractors however I do not
see that as any reason why I should not maintain my 1st amendment right to
protest.
When Bush is out of the White House and it is safe for Democracy again and
you have crawled back into your primal swamp where, like Gollum, you gloat
over you precious delusions, I will rest.
Cheer up it won't be long now!
Hu
New updates here: www.darksharman.com
Jul 30, 2004, 1:50am
Well CarolAnn if it bothers you as much as it seems to then why do you waste
your time reading this string? It's a single string, in an entire NG, at a
very important time politically as well as historically for the entire
world. You have covered almost everything that I have said including what
YOU thought I may have been implying and several statements that I never
said at all. It seems to me CarolAnn that you are more interested in the
personalities than in the facts and there is not possibility of intelligent
discussion if that is your criteria.
I spend time in several NGs, I'm not attached to this one, in fact if no one
answers this post it will be fine with me. But it seems that this string is
as active any in this NG more active than most, there are obviously more
people than just Drac and I who are interested in or want to state an
opinion about the issues as they are today.
Now, let me comment on your statement about those who have decided to attack
and abuse rather that enjoy lively discussion. They are sharing nothing and
they are wasting space in this NG and anywhere else that they make their
potty mouthed remarks and I do not simply imply that they are unintelligent
fools I state it as an out right fact!
We all have opinions and we all have strong feelings but we do not need to
abuse one another. CarolAnn you will never shut me up even though you have
been trying to for years I will always speak my mind because I am very
passionate. I am wrong, and I make my share of errors and blunders but I am
a human being living alongside you here on this planet and I will honor you
and treat you with respect because it is your entitlement. I will even honor
the fools who choose not this course however I may not respect them.
Finally, I am completely happy not to continue this string . Just don't
expect me not to answer you if you reply. It is entirely up to you pumpkin!
Cheers
Bodhi
www.darksharman.com
[View Quote]"carolann" <carolannh at charter.not> wrote in message
news:41093f73 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Hu, look, I understand your concern with the conditions of the world
> and the future for all its citizens, (arguably all reasonable people have
> the same concern), but do you see at all what I mean about this being the
> wrong forum? Lines like "personally im tired of hearing about this shit"
and
> "stuff it buddy...." and "Screw off Hu" should give you the idea that
you're
> wasting your breath here, and that you may even be putting off people you
> say you are trying to reach, people who just might listen to you in a
forum
> where they seek out your kind of insight. Hu-do you sincerely want to
help?
> Take it where you absolutely know it will do some good. You and Drac have
> implied that, because people aren't responding to you the way you think
they
> should, that they are stupid, and/or are apathetic. Well, just who are you
> that they should oooh and aahh over information from you when they just
> might be politically aware and active in their r/l, and come here for a
few
> minutes, or even hours, of head-clearing? I am serious.not kidding. How is
> your info more important (please know, this is a serious question, not a
> slight) than that which is already available to them that we should
respond
> favorably or else be considered fools? Drac mentioned something about
people
> who "keep voting" for Bush...well news to him I guess but he's only been
in
> that office one time. People who come here might want a break; they pay
for
> it, and might only resent strangers coming in here telling them how to
> think. They know where to go for their political nourishment. If it isn't
> the "right" place, someone in a virtual world's news group is not going to
> convince them that he knows something they don't know. **People tend not
to
> listen to those who continuously tell them they are dense and
uneducated.**
>
> You say that at times like these even a playground's newsgroup needs to
> be politically enlightened? (Or however you said it a few posts back).
Then
> the whole entertainment industry should be shut down 'til things get
better.
> When it gets to the point of people being compared to ostriches with their
> heads in the sand because we don't get up and rally around an uninvited
(for
> political purposes only, Hu) political speechmaker in a virtual universe's
> forum, it is going beyond ludicrousness, and extremely annoying and
> insulting as well. I told you, we (the general population) have as much
> brainpower as you do; we are just using a different part of it in here.
(Is
> it still allowed? If not, all recreational activities should come to a
halt
> until things get better.)
>
> Also, it is extremely frustrating when some always choose to use the
> argument that the original immigrants stole the pre-US territory from the
> "native-Americans"! Either that or the 150 year old slavery issue is
brought
> up. If you do not see the difference between then and now on those issues,
> then you haven't done enough homework to make enlightened judgments. Do
you
> realize how far removed from those events any living US citizen is?? A
good
> portion of us did not even have our roots planted here back then. You
don't
> also consider the more recent (though still distant past) population who
> abolished and do not allow such ancient practices. None of us had any more
> to do with that than you, a present US resident, did!! Just like you did
not
> have anything directly to do with the prisoner colonies that made up the
> original, non-aboriginal (there's a poem in there somewhere) population of
> your own Australia. It would never even occur to me to cut down Australia
> (or you) because it's present non-native population was once made up
> exclusively of thieves and murderers. Bring up present day when you
must-in
> the proper place, and I won't bring up leper colonies, slave colonies,
what
> the ancient Romans did, the 40's in Germany, all those reams of historical
> stuff. We should learn from it and continue to make reparations for those
> early evils until everything is right, but every succeeding generation
> should not be considered eternally guilty (how long?) for the sins of the
> past. That would do more harm than good. My own community was very
> instrumental in helping runaway slaves; do I get to take credit for either
> thing 150-200+ years later? And funny-why do those few bring up the bad
and
> never the good, there was nothing in those 200+ years? Sounds kinda
> one-sided to me.
>
> Until you offer to sit down, one on one, with the very AW cits that you
> have been trying to reach, and compare our real world concern (and real
life
> activism--things we actually physically do for the good of whomever we can
> reach), then maybe it would be more fair to just drop it from this place.
>
> Why do I occasionally come in here and read this stuff? Guilty
admission
> here: I have my coffee, have a few minutes to kill, and wonder what could
> possibly be said next. Same as anyone who does, I guess. Like reading
Ripley
> 's Believe It Or Not.
>
> Respectfully, CarolAnn
>
> "hu" <miracleweb at hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4109180a$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> and
that
the
would
> insists
watch
stealing
> not
to
and
gloat
>
>
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Jul 30, 2004, 10:26pm
[View Quote]"ferruccio" <startrek3 at earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:410ac43d at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Communism was the evil empire back in the 1980s. The US was doing
anything
> it could to end communism, and through Reagan's efforts, communism in
Russia
> fell. The United States had no way of knowing the Taliban would turn out
> the way it is now. Now, the United States does know what the Taliban is
up
> to, and they are not giving them a dime. :P
>
>
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Yes but they are not dealing with them either - Bush says he wants to end
the terrorist threat then goes into Iraq with not solid evidence that it is
warranted taking away the US military's forceful presence from Afghanistan
and his buddy Osama.
It is quite evident that Bush is his daddy's puppet and that the Bush family
is in bed with the Bin Laden's... It is disgusting! American boys are chess
pieces in a political war that is designed to take the attention off the Bin
Laden/Bush family connection.
Go see Michael Moore's film Fahrenheit 9/11, it's plainly stated there and I
do not see the Bush family denying it or suing Moore for slander. WAKE UP
AMERICANS You are being made fools of by an evil family that kills your kids
to cover their sinister tracks!
Cheers
Hu
www.darksharman.com
Jul 31, 2004, 4:20pm
Drac, there is a reason why I have not answered Ferruccio in any of his
recent posts to me
and it was a mistake on my part to answer him this time. He is utterly
unreasonable in any dialogue that I have with him in AW, I thought I had
learned my lesson with him, silly me!
I will not be involving myself with him again in this or any other
discussion and for your own sanity you shouldn't either. He will attack this
message in his usual perverse way craving someone to bite back, it is not
worth it I assure you!
Cheers
Hu
www.darksharman.com
[View Quote]"count dracula" <dracula at netsonic.fi> wrote in message
news:410b97d6$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Funny, you demand proof of everything and when someone tries to give it to
> you, you refuse to listen.
> At the same time when one ask for proof for mass destruction weapons in
Iraq
> or connection between Saddam and Al-Quaid, one is supposed to belive they
> excist without any proof.
>
> One would belive that history would yeach not to mess with things that one
> have no business messing with. Like USA sponsoring the Taliban, what a
great
> result in the end and how about putting Saddam in charge for Iraq? what a
> great thing that was, was it not?
> And now this stupid war again. I wonder if people will ever learn to mind
> their own business and play their wargames at home if they want to. Not so
> nice to pick randomly a weak country far away and go there and cause
> destruction.
>
> What the current govermant has done, it will take a long time to heal.
Never
> before has USA been so hated worldwide ( along with all other western
> countries). Never has it been so easy for terrorist groups to get new
> memebers. What Bush has done has been a lottery winning to Al-Quaida and
> similar organisations.
>
> You really should stop that Man now, before the entire world is in war,
and
> this time even your asses can be hurt; the war CAN be taken to your land,
> because they do not attack with big troops nor tanks.
>
> D
> "ferruccio" <startrek3 at earthlink.net> kirjoitti viestiss
> news:410b114c$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
end
> is
Afghanistan
not
> Bush
of
> take
> it?
and
that
> and
> let
Active
I
> kills
Kerry
>
>
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Jul 31, 2004, 5:40pm
No Ferrucio is extremely careful never to actually fire blatant insults at
anyone CarolAnn but he is nevertheless entirely frustrating as he is not
willing or even able to offer proof of his statement but ALWAYS negates
others by insisting that they PROVE what they are claiming.
This is not a court of law and we cannot prove anything we hear or see, all
we can do is look at the facts as they are presented to us by the various
media we attend to. So, CarolAnn, that is the line of subtle attack that
Ferrucio's uses and as unreasonable as it is it excludes him from my
awareness.
Cheers
Hu
www.darksharman.com
[View Quote]"carolann" <carolannh at charter.not> wrote in message
news:410bf118$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Hmm, although I personally think the US is ready for a change of
leadership
> to a more wise and responsible one, I think it would be interesting to see
> someone try to counter the posts of Ferrucio's under this heading , (which
> seem more general and not necessarily only about the present
> administration). As long as the thing is going on and on anyway. He's been
> very reasonable and intelligent in all his statements here, (read each
> carefully and you will see that), never mean and nasty, so someone sure
> couldn't take issue with that :-). It's easy to argue with dummies, but it
> should be more challenging and rewarding to debate with someone who seems
to
> have some insight. (that is, it should be to an equally reasonable person
> with equal insight and intelligence and feels secure in what he knows.)
>
> "ferruccio" <startrek3 at earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:410be197$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> to
> Iraq
they
there
was
> one
> taught
mind
> not
> cause
> who
deal
> western
> Al-jazeera
> out
> will
curious.
> from
during
be
inspection
>
>
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Jul 31, 2004, 10:15pm
So Sharon, you are my victim now are you? I am forcing you to open this
string, I am forcing you to be sick and tired, and I am focusing on annoying
you?
Well Sharon this may come as something of a shock to you but I never ever
even think of you unless I am unlucky enough to open the NG to one of you
negative posts. (Everything of yours that I have ever read has been
negative Sharon)
Take your own advice Sharon "get over yourself! Chalk one up to being an
ass and move on with your life. Try not acting like an ignoramus OK!?" Oh
and learning to spell might help as well hun.
Cheers
Hu
www.darksharman.com
[View Quote]".sharon" <slclarke at adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:410c1dd0$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Let me reiterate Hu is a total ass!
>
> Hu you crank and moan, ranting and raving about supposed USA downfalls,
yet
> when someone calls your bluff you back down and ignore them making more
> dialogue with the likes of someon like me LOL. I'm someone who is so sick
> and tired of listening to your crap in here!!!!! It's as annoying as a
> blind dog messing on the rug because he can't bark when he wants to go
> outside anymore!
>
> You began your fussing in here because you are so frustrated that some
young
> person made you look like a an old fool. Well, get over yourself! Chalk
> one up to being an ass and move on with your life. Try not acting like an
> ignoramous OK !?
>
>
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Jul 31, 2004, 11:09pm
Sharon, my English is great and if you knew your spelling and grammar you
would be able to see that it is... My choice of a way to deal with you hun
was merely a direct quote from your previous post, so, it is not surprising
that you are not surprised.
When you say something intelligent I will respond intelligently until then
this bickering session ends here. |<END>|
Cheers
Hu
www.darksharman.com
[View Quote]".sharon" <slclarke at adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:410c4035$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> "Yes you option of how to deal with me doesn't surprise
> me in the least." Speak English HU !
>
>
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Aug 1, 2004, 6:48am
[View Quote]builderz" <contact at 3dhost.net> wrote:
|
>1) Do you think Bush or Kerry will go to war with North Korea and/or Iran?
The odds are in favor of Bush continuing on with his war mongering into a
state of world war (WWIII) - Bush is intent on bringing about Armageddon,
Americans who do not fear him are fools. We really have nothing but Kerry's
word that he will re-establish good relations with the allies that Bush has
alienated and that he will only go to war as an absolute last resort. I
would put my money on Kerry though for a future with at least a margin of
world security, it will take time though for America to convince the world
community that it can be trusted again.
>2) Do you think Bush or Kerry will start the U.S. draft up again?
Bush will have to start the U.S. draft up again so that he can wage all the
wars he has planned.
>3) Do you think Fox News says they are "Fair and Balanced" too much?
If Fox News says they are "Fair and Balanced" even once they are liars.
>4) What do you think of Kerry's Senate record?
Not familiar enough with it yet to answer this!
>5) What do you think of Ralph Nader?
I like Nader's ideas and if he could get the support a third party is what
this country needs however in the present political climate where the fate
of the world going to war or not, is in the balance I believe he needs to
step up and support Bush's only real opponent!
>6) What's the *real* reason Tom Ridge will be leaving the Dept. of
Homeland Security?
Not familiar enough with it yet to answer this!
>7) Do you think terrorists may launch a cyber attack soon?
I'm sure Bush would love it if they would; he needs the terrorists to assist
him in terrorizing the American people into voting for him. I would not be
surprised if he and his cronies set up some kind of terrorist plot that can'
t be traced like the anthrax scares to sway the people through fear to vote
for him.
>8) Do you think things like the Patriot Act really help catch more
terrorists or infringe on citizens' civil liberties?
It is an evil adjunct to the evil administration - it is merely there to
erode civil liberties, I'm surprised Americans stand for this kind of crap.
>9) Do you think Bin Laden will be captured or do you think he is dead
already?
I don't care about Bin Laden.
>10) Who should take most of the blame for the weapons of mass
destruction fiasco?
It is obvious that the perpetrators of the illegal war on Iraq should be
held responsible for their lies and deceit. Bush and that UK twit!
Cheers
Bodhi
www.darksharman.com
Jul 31, 2004, 5:19pm
A. I do not know if that is the full story but it is a CNN clip so I suggest
you take it up with them.
B. Who the hell cares how many threads there are in a newsgroup Linn is as
entitled to draw attention to what she wants to express by starting a new
thread as anyone else, that's why the facility is available. The attitude
toward NG protocols here is entirely weird it is as though one is wasting
REAL space instead of just cyber space which, when only text is used is
virtually unlimited.
Relax
Hu
www.darksharman.com
[View Quote]"builderz" <contact at 3dhost.net> wrote in message
news:410194dd$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Linn is correct, that wasn't the entire video clip on Hu's site. It was
> most likely edited to show a bias or try to and portray a certain point
> of view (what isn't biased nowadays?). However, it is true that at least
> one U.S. soldier shot the (assumed to be) wounded Iraqi, but that clip
> doesn't show the full story.
>
> I agree that Linn should have replied to one of Hu's other posts instead
> of making a new thread.
>
> Builderz
> http://www.3DHost.net
>
> linn wrote:
>
see
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Aug 3, 2004, 11:12pm
No Strike I have no vendetta; actually I appreciate information and
entertainment, political statements and even recipes if people would like to
share them. I appreciate anything that anyone has to share with me and I
don't have a "correct forum" hang up about delivery.
I simply trying to make you and others who have talked down to me that you
also post off topic. I'm sorry now because I really don't want to attack
you, I was angry and so I posted a couple of stupid things to point out the
double standard I feel people have been attempting to impose on me.
Forgive me, I would rather be your friend and be able to have healthy
discussion and even disagreements so, please don't take this to seriously. I
am a passionate person but I'm also a passionate builder and a passionate
web designer and a passionate man. I'm not here to hurt anyone or to disrupt
I simply have opinions like everyone else.
Cheers
Bodhi
[View Quote]"strike rapier" <strike at rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:410fc884 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Hu has a vendetta.. against the world apparently.
>
> The link was provided for entertainment because everyone was taking things
> far too seriously.
>
> - MR
>
> "ferruccio" <startrek3 at earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:410ef1b1$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>
>
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Jul 25, 2004, 4:27pm
Would anyone like to join me in creating a "Children Of Iraq" memorial build
in Alpha World?
Cheers
Hu
www.darksharman.com
"The problems we face today cannot be
solved by the minds that created them."
Jul 26, 2004, 12:12am
Hi again carolann,
My reason for starting this thread was as much to bring the children who are
suffering needlessly everywhere in the world into our awareness. I'm not
saying that you are unaware; it has just been my experience that awareness
heals.
No matter what else happens we can contribute to the healing of our world
with our thoughts. Some call it prayer; others call it meditation and in my
experience miracles happen as we come together in a single unified purpose.
I realize that there are those who have felt insulted by some of my posts in
this NG and I am deeply sorry for it, it was never my intention to do harm.
It is so difficult for all of us to remain objective in these extremely
emotional times. We get confused, we feel the need to defend and sometimes
to attack and we often hurt one another even though it may well be
unintentional.
I am experiencing very powerful feelings about the present climate of war,
terrorism and uncertainty and it is my great desire to join with my fellow
AWers in a solution. because our loving thoughts of them are never wasted,
whether we do a build or not is really not the point (it is only a symbol,)
however as long as we are holding ALL the children in our awareness, healing
can and will happen. I thank you from the bottom of my heart.
Cheers
Hu
www.darksharman.com
"The problems we face today cannot be solved by the minds that created
them."
[View Quote]"carolann" <carolannh at charter.not> wrote in message
news:41044ad8 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>
> "ferruccio" <startrek3 at earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:41043aa7$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>
> And how abour acknowledging children (and adults) in the Sudan/Darfar
> region, Bolivia, Dominican Republic and on and on. Natural disasters can
be
> devastating, too. Maybe an informational wall or something with a "You Can
> Help" button for some situations instead of a memorial build would be
good,
> if anyone came to see it or really used it anyway. (I wouldn't hold my
> breath though, people find out how to help if they are really concerned).
> Funds and goods DO get through if you find an agency that you trust or
that
> has a proven record. Or that you have first hand knowledge that it works.
> The word memorial kind of hints that it is too late to help (not that we
> shouldn't remember them, too). Preventing or helping to restore means
fewer
> and smaller memorials.
>
>
>
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Aug 9, 2004, 5:21pm
If you can't see for yourself the trouble America and this world is now in
because of Bush then you deserve everything you get... Hey you can attack me
(both individually and collectively (attack) seems to be a favored American
pastime doesn't it?) but it doesn't alter the fact that your system is
failing and you have little support in the world community, that makes you
venerable yet you do not see it.
A change of attitude would go a long way to improving your situation both
personally as well as nationally and Kerry might just be the man to do it.
Rossyboy your sarcasm comes mostly from your obvious lack of maturity, so
many people have complained about you in the past however I have a thicker
skin than most so your brash rudeness is completely forgivable!
Cheers
Hu
[View Quote]"rossyboy" <rossyboy at vwtv.org> wrote in message
news:410dbcc1$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
|
> Seriously Hu, you're making all who are anti-Bush look bad. You're
> actually being detrimental to the anti-Bush effort. If there was an
> anti-Bush license, yours would be revoked by now.
Aug 10, 2004, 6:04pm
What a raver you are bro - I said that I will leave if Bush is re-elected
did I not?
So it hasn't happened yet however you are not satisfied with my initial
statement
you require something more... LOL well, you are not getting it - you will
just have
to trust that I'm not the person you would like to think I am,
fortunately...
Cheers
Bodhi
http://www.originalwebsites.com/AW/teleports.htm
[View Quote]"bro" <bro at geneband.net> wrote in message
news:4118f4c2 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> NO, I will not move out of the country nor did I ever say I would. If I
had
> said that I most certainly would do so though. I think our country can
stand
> 4 years of Kerry just like we did 8 of Clinton, 4 of Carter and almost 4
of
> Nixon. It might surprise you but I too find much about Bush policy I
> dislike. The question with Hu is about honor. Will he do what he said. I
> find for the most part the left wing only say things and do very little.
> While the right wing just once and while do what they say they will or is
> the other way around? Doing what one says is important. Mr. Alec
Baldwin
> and his wife, Kim Bassinger said they would move out this country if Bush
> was elected his first term. Guess what? They are still here.
>
> So to answer your question again. No I am going to die in this country no
> matter who is elected. I will also not be so dumb to say something I have
to
> back down on. Honor is gained not with loud words but with action. If
one's
> word is no good then what have do have to offer but sounding brass gongs?
I
> have lost more you can possibly imagine for being honest and keeping
> my word in my life. I have to say though I would have lost much much
> by doing what I said. I would have lost respect. A fool speaks
out
> quickly a wise man holds his peace and picks his words. I have
been
> both in my life but I have kept my word even when cost me do so.
>
> I didn't go to Viet Nam because I thought was the right war I
went
> because I knew was the right thing to do. I ask HU an honest
> question. I give you my word I will defend his right to be wrong
> for if anyone would tell him be quite they would also me.
Freedom
> comes with cost and so does honor.
>
> "bodhitah" <bodhitah at hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4118E0C3.2000204 at hotmail.com...
> of
> in
now
> in
> attack
> you
> both
> it.
> so
> thicker
>
>
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