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Security Lockdown (Wishlist)
Security Lockdown // Wishlist
Sep 19, 2002, 3:25pm
Dear Folks,
Over the last few months we have seen a drastic increase in cloning related security problems, by this I also include console messages, and now allowing the world server to modify chat so that sessions apear to be differnt, say differnt things etc etc etc.
When we purchase a citizenship we are under the presumption, that as it says on the webpage. To use a unique citizen name, this is 1 of the biggest, if not the biggest reason to get a citizenship to prevent being impersonated. However despite this Active Worlds is continhjually adding features that allow CT's to "clone" the apearence of users with or without their permission.
As we have already seen with people cloning E N Z O this presents a very real problem, as people can now easily fake images, screenshots, chat logs etc.
For that reason I would like to see the following features:
- A citizen option to "Dissable Copying" that would denny all world servers / users a method of copying a citizen, for example worlds would not be able to modify chat so it apears under another users name.
- Right click popup extension, so that when you right click an avatar or text it brings up the citizen name, citizen number, Cit ppw, and if the user allows it, the coordinates of that user.
- BotLinkEject to allow a citizen to right click and "eject" a bot on his or her PPW for example if PPWs are abused and control has been lost.
Sep 19, 2002, 4:16pm
I agree with you on that one.
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D a n
[View Quote]"strike rapier" <strike at Rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3d8a08a2 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Dear Folks,
> Over the last few months we have seen a drastic increase in cloning
related security problems, by this I also include console messages, and now
allowing the world server to modify chat so that sessions apear to be
differnt, say differnt things etc etc etc.
>
> When we purchase a citizenship we are under the presumption, that as it
says on the webpage. To use a unique citizen name, this is 1 of the biggest,
if not the biggest reason to get a citizenship to prevent being
impersonated. However despite this Active Worlds is continhjually adding
features that allow CT's to "clone" the apearence of users with or without
their permission.
>
> As we have already seen with people cloning E N Z O this presents a very
real problem, as people can now easily fake images, screenshots, chat logs
etc.
>
> For that reason I would like to see the following features:
> - A citizen option to "Dissable Copying" that would denny all world
servers / users a method of copying a citizen, for example worlds would not
be able to modify chat so it apears under another users name.
> - Right click popup extension, so that when you right click an avatar or
text it brings up the citizen name, citizen number, Cit ppw, and if the user
allows it, the coordinates of that user.
> - BotLinkEject to allow a citizen to right click and "eject" a bot on his
or her PPW for example if PPWs are abused and control has been lost.
>
>
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Sep 19, 2002, 7:27pm
Cloning cant really be stopped, sorry.
-Joe
[View Quote]"strike rapier" <strike at Rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3d8a08a2 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Dear Folks,
> Over the last few months we have seen a drastic increase in cloning
related security problems, by this I also include console messages, and now
allowing the world server to modify chat so that sessions apear to be
differnt, say differnt things etc etc etc.
>
> When we purchase a citizenship we are under the presumption, that as it
says on the webpage. To use a unique citizen name, this is 1 of the biggest,
if not the biggest reason to get a citizenship to prevent being
impersonated. However despite this Active Worlds is continhjually adding
features that allow CT's to "clone" the apearence of users with or without
their permission.
>
> As we have already seen with people cloning E N Z O this presents a very
real problem, as people can now easily fake images, screenshots, chat logs
etc.
>
> For that reason I would like to see the following features:
> - A citizen option to "Dissable Copying" that would denny all world
servers / users a method of copying a citizen, for example worlds would not
be able to modify chat so it apears under another users name.
> - Right click popup extension, so that when you right click an avatar or
text it brings up the citizen name, citizen number, Cit ppw, and if the user
allows it, the coordinates of that user.
> - BotLinkEject to allow a citizen to right click and "eject" a bot on his
or her PPW for example if PPWs are abused and control has been lost.
>
>
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Sep 20, 2002, 3:34pm
I know the proxy can pritty much clone anyone. But I mean changing bots name sos they apear as a actual cit etc.
- Mark
[View Quote]"joeman" <joeman at bootdown.com> wrote in message news:3d8a4152 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Cloning cant really be stopped, sorry.
>
> -Joe
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Sep 20, 2002, 3:50pm
I agree this can get ppl in a lot of trouble cause it "looks" like you said
it sigh
[View Quote]"strike rapier" <strike at Rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3d8b5c18 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I know the proxy can pritty much clone anyone. But I mean changing bots
name sos they apear as a actual cit etc.
>
> - Mark
> "joeman" <joeman at bootdown.com> wrote in message
news:3d8a4152 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
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Sep 20, 2002, 7:16pm
But, that's also done with this "AWProxy".
-Joe
[View Quote]"strike rapier" <strike at Rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3d8b5c18 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I know the proxy can pritty much clone anyone. But I mean changing bots
name sos they apear as a actual cit etc.
>
> - Mark
> "joeman" <joeman at bootdown.com> wrote in message
news:3d8a4152 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
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Sep 20, 2002, 8:22pm
With 3.4 its done with the server?
- Mark
[View Quote]"joeman" <joeman at bootdown.com> wrote in message news:3d8b9034$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> But, that's also done with this "AWProxy".
>
> -Joe
>
> "strike rapier" <strike at Rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3d8b5c18 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> name sos they apear as a actual cit etc.
> news:3d8a4152 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
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Sep 20, 2002, 8:44pm
Uhm, no, not really. Well, depends. If you want to log any-old-person in,
then, the world would have to be running behind the proxy. But, if you want
to log a citizenship of yours in, or spoof a user, then the world does not
need to be behind the proxy.
-Joe
[View Quote]"strike rapier" <strike at Rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3d8b9fc2 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> With 3.4 its done with the server?
>
> - Mark
> "joeman" <joeman at bootdown.com> wrote in message
news:3d8b9034$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
bots
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Sep 21, 2002, 7:38am
With 3.4 its done with the server?
- Mark
[View Quote]"joeman" <joeman at bootdown.com> wrote in message news:3d8b9034$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> But, that's also done with this "AWProxy".
>
> -Joe
>
> "strike rapier" <strike at Rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3d8b5c18 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> name sos they apear as a actual cit etc.
> news:3d8a4152 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
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Sep 21, 2002, 7:45am
I mean with actually directly impersonating someone in graphics only.
For example you can knock the brackets off a bot to make it look as though its the real person.
- Mark
[View Quote]"joeman" <joeman at bootdown.com> wrote in message news:3d8ba4ca$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Uhm, no, not really. Well, depends. If you want to log any-old-person in,
> then, the world would have to be running behind the proxy. But, if you want
> to log a citizenship of yours in, or spoof a user, then the world does not
> need to be behind the proxy.
>
> -Joe
>
> "strike rapier" <strike at Rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3d8b9fc2 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> news:3d8b9034$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> bots
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Sep 21, 2002, 2:51pm
No, any version, it can be done with just the "bot" or browser running
through the proxy.
-Joe
[View Quote]"strike rapier" <strike at Rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3d8c3e0a at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> With 3.4 its done with the server?
>
> - Mark
> "joeman" <joeman at bootdown.com> wrote in message
news:3d8b9034$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
bots
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Sep 21, 2002, 3:02pm
Yes, but its "Designed" to be done like that in newer versions, who in gawds name knows how to proxy it and the whole protocal / RC4 scheme to do that
[View Quote]"joeman" <joeman at bootdown.com> wrote in message news:3d8ca376$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> No, any version, it can be done with just the "bot" or browser running
> through the proxy.
>
> -Joe
>
> "strike rapier" <strike at Rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3d8c3e0a at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> news:3d8b9034$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> bots
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Sep 21, 2002, 8:12pm
the left click should not bring up the avatar pop-up menu if it is a console
message. Also indenting all console meaages a little should be enough to
prevent impersonating. And you can already fake chat logs anyway
[View Quote]"strike rapier" <strike at Rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3d8a08a2 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Dear Folks,
> Over the last few months we have seen a drastic increase in cloning
related security problems, by this I also include console messages, and now
allowing the world server to modify chat so that sessions apear to be
differnt, say differnt things etc etc etc.
>
> When we purchase a citizenship we are under the presumption, that as it
says on the webpage. To use a unique citizen name, this is 1 of the biggest,
if not the biggest reason to get a citizenship to prevent being
impersonated. However despite this Active Worlds is continhjually adding
features that allow CT's to "clone" the apearence of users with or without
their permission.
>
> As we have already seen with people cloning E N Z O this presents a very
real problem, as people can now easily fake images, screenshots, chat logs
etc.
>
> For that reason I would like to see the following features:
> - A citizen option to "Dissable Copying" that would denny all world
servers / users a method of copying a citizen, for example worlds would not
be able to modify chat so it apears under another users name.
> - Right click popup extension, so that when you right click an avatar or
text it brings up the citizen name, citizen number, Cit ppw, and if the user
allows it, the coordinates of that user.
> - BotLinkEject to allow a citizen to right click and "eject" a bot on his
or her PPW for example if PPWs are abused and control has been lost.
>
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Nov 25, 2002, 1:35am
That's a good idea. Even if the bot driven console messages were mandatorily indented the size of a single space character, that would be enough to let people see that something's "different" so they would know to think more about such things.
TechnoZeus
[View Quote]"the derek" <imthederek at yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3d8ceecb at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> the left click should not bring up the avatar pop-up menu if it is a console
> message. Also indenting all console meaages a little should be enough to
> prevent impersonating. And you can already fake chat logs anyway
> "strike rapier" <strike at Rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3d8a08a2 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> related security problems, by this I also include console messages, and now
> allowing the world server to modify chat so that sessions apear to be
> differnt, say differnt things etc etc etc.
> says on the webpage. To use a unique citizen name, this is 1 of the biggest,
> if not the biggest reason to get a citizenship to prevent being
> impersonated. However despite this Active Worlds is continhjually adding
> features that allow CT's to "clone" the apearence of users with or without
> their permission.
> real problem, as people can now easily fake images, screenshots, chat logs
> etc.
> servers / users a method of copying a citizen, for example worlds would not
> be able to modify chat so it apears under another users name.
> text it brings up the citizen name, citizen number, Cit ppw, and if the user
> allows it, the coordinates of that user.
> or her PPW for example if PPWs are abused and control has been lost.
>
>
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