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User counts // SdkrocamboleOct 18, 1998, 7:50pm
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The FAQ says: Do bots made with the SDK count against the user limit in a world? No. They also do not count against the user limit in the universe, and they are not reflected in the user counts shown in the world list. If so - why does my world's user count always increments when my bot arrives? Rocambole of Mandalay --------------9EFF87A493CA851961181A61 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML> The FAQ says: <P> <I>Do bots made with the SDK count against the user limit in a world?</I> <BR><I> No. They also do not count against the user limit in the universe, and they are not reflected in the</I> <BR><I> user counts shown in the world list.</I> <P>If so - why does my world's user count <I>always</I> increments when my bot arrives? <P>Rocambole of Mandalay</HTML> --------------9EFF87A493CA851961181A61-- walter knupeOct 18, 1998, 7:57pm
Which means that SDK bots do not count.
Hambots do count. and you almost ever run into one :) Its quite funny to stay at Beta GZ.. every 5 mins some hambots appear, mumble something, chase each other and dissappear. no owners in sight :) Walter Byte Me schrieb in Nachricht <362A6058.2C4E at hotmail.com>... >Only 2.1 servers don't count bots :) [View Quote] roland vilettOct 19, 1998, 2:19am
That's correct. 2.1 worlds know what an SDK application is, so they know
not to count them against the user limit. 2.0 servers don't know about the distinction between users and bots, so they count bots as users. If you're running Hambot without the SDK option, then it appears to the server as either a normal tourist or a normal citizen, so hambot bots get counted as users, even in 2.1 worlds. At some point it will no longer be possible to run Hambot in non-SDK mode, so this issue is only temporary. -Roland [View Quote] rocamboleOct 19, 1998, 3:46am
My bot isn't a Hambot but an SDK bot and Mandalay is hosted by CoF so I
suppose it's running on a 2.1 server. Besides my SDK bot wouldn't work if the server had been 2.0, right? Rocambole [View Quote] > That's correct. 2.1 worlds know what an SDK application is, so they know > not to count them against the user limit. 2.0 servers don't know about the > distinction between users and bots, so they count bots as users. > > If you're running Hambot without the SDK option, then it appears to the > server as either a normal tourist or a normal citizen, so hambot bots get > counted as users, even in 2.1 worlds. At some point it will no longer be > possible to run Hambot in non-SDK mode, so this issue is only temporary. > > -Roland > [View Quote] roland vilettOct 19, 1998, 4:33am
Actually no. Most of the worlds run by COF are still running 2.0 worlds.
We are currently testing the 2.1 server with a about a dozen worlds, but the vast majority are still 2.0. Also SDK bots will work in 2.0 worlds. The SDK has code that detects whether a world is a 2.0 or 2.1 server, and changes protocols appropriately. I think only one the one function aw_whisper() will not work in 2.0 worlds. -Roland [View Quote] rocamboleOct 19, 1998, 5:21am
OK... So when the user count on the worlds list some time in the future is
correct I will know that my world runs on a 2.1 server. [View Quote] > Actually no. Most of the worlds run by COF are still running 2.0 worlds. > We are currently testing the 2.1 server with a about a dozen worlds, but the > vast majority are still 2.0. > > Also SDK bots will work in 2.0 worlds. The SDK has code that detects > whether a world is a 2.0 or 2.1 server, and changes protocols appropriately. > I think only one the one function aw_whisper() will not work in 2.0 worlds. > > -Roland > [View Quote] velenoOct 20, 1998, 12:59am
Alright... I've heard a lot of talk about the 2.1 Server and Browser... but I
don't know much about it, myself... is there somewhere that the information on it is posted? Next point... I'm wondering bout the world bot user counts... I was on a friends world, that had a user limit of 8 people. There were 8 people in there that night, plus his bot. The worlds list showed a user count of 9 people... what accounts for that? [View Quote] > Actually no. Most of the worlds run by COF are still running 2.0 worlds. > We are currently testing the 2.1 server with a about a dozen worlds, but the > vast majority are still 2.0. > > Also SDK bots will work in 2.0 worlds. The SDK has code that detects > whether a world is a 2.0 or 2.1 server, and changes protocols appropriately. > I think only one the one function aw_whisper() will not work in 2.0 worlds. > > -Roland > [View Quote] jwOct 20, 1998, 9:26am
the bot doesnt count as a person, so cof lets him have 8+1
[View Quote] > Alright... I've heard a lot of talk about the 2.1 Server and Browser... but I > don't know much about it, myself... is there somewhere that the information on > it is posted? > Next point... I'm wondering bout the world bot user counts... I was on a > friends world, that had a user limit of 8 people. There were 8 people in there > that night, plus his bot. The worlds list showed a user count of 9 people... > what accounts for that? > [View Quote] roland vilettOct 21, 1998, 5:24pm
The 2.1 server and browser are still under development at COF, so there
isn't any documentation available on them yet. The 2.1 server is close to being completed, so there are about a dozen worlds or so currently running it as a test. However there is still quite a bit of work left to do on the 2.1 browser so it won't be available for a while yet. For obscure reasons, under certain circumstances a world's user count can appear to temporarily exceed its maximum. In this case I don't think it had anything to do with the bot per se since the world was presumably a 2.0 world. -Roland [View Quote] |
