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Sep 4, 2002, 2:59am

Dear Cy Awards Selection Committee,
We of the Cy Awards Team wish to extend our sincerest appreciation to the
members of the Cy Nominations Selection Committee for their diligent efforts
during what has been a time of experimentation and conflict and trust that
you all realize that no one is pointing fingers, nor placing blame, that the
experiment was unsuccessful.
We thank you for helping us with the many hours spent in the testing of a
new system and were glad that you were able to help.
Sincerely,
Executive Committee
Cyberwitch, Tauntaun, Weebo

Sep 4, 2002, 3:50am

The "experiment", as YOU call it, wasn't unsuccessful, just the support
behind it was a failure.. It was the remaining Cy core that let the ball
drop by not standing behind the policy that existed at the time the
Selection Committee was called to start the work asked of them... It was
the remaining core that didn't have what it takes to face down the
nay-sayers that pipe up no matter what someone else does... The strong
leader was gone and with her went the backbone of the group... :o(

The Selection Committee and the reasons it was called into being were
valid... The Cy Awards Committee core is what failed the Selection
Committee and the Community!!!

A few nice sounding words won't change facts or the feeling of betrayal that
some of us have... The word "trust" doesn't fit well in the mouth of the Cy
core right now so you might want to refrain from using it...

Also, please don't start coming up with "facts" about there not being enough
votes sent in by the Selection Committee... If that were the case then
Mountain Myst, the person that was on their receiving end and posted the top
choices, should have said so and NOT put up any top 5 nominations until
there were enough Selection Committee votes in... It's too late to claim
that the Selection Committee didn't do their job...

Now, I hope you enjoy your popularity contest... This is the last the Cy
core will hear from me about this subject...

Sep 5, 2002, 11:09pm

I would like to say that I don't think the experiment was unsuccessful at
all. You can't please everyone anyways, of course. I and a lot of other
people think that next year a selection committee _should_ be created.

But in order to keep delays like this from happening again, you and some of
the more responsible members of the team need to screen the candidates
before the community votes on them. Screen them so that you can be sure
that they will go through the _entire_ list of nominees, and so they will be
fair as well, like Daphne here. Then I think that you will have a fair and
accurate way to determine the top five candidates for any awards. And a few
people might even change their tune, like Daphne here. She's a fair and
respectable person. Once she sees that you are again making an effort to
keep the awards from becoming a popularity contest, she'll turn right
around. :)

There are always going to be people who scream and shout, and they should
_always_ be ignored. They just want to cause a mess, because they see
conspiracy in everything.

Those who have valid concerns can contact the appropriate person on the team
via e-mail instead of making a public nuisance of themselves.

In keeping with my own advice, I have also e-mailed this message to the Cy
Awards team via the form on their website.

Chris

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Sep 6, 2002, 3:19am

My 2 cents...

I have heard a lot of mud slinging that somehow the final nominations
process was not credible.

I could have used this and complained when seeing out of the many
nominations I got, not one made it onto a final five list, and having a
quick look thinking to myself some of these finalists are a bit dubious.

I did not complain because the finals list, even if flawed or corrupt, is
better than a "popularist" vote. The "popularist" vote in my opinion tends
to validate charm rather than talent.

I think the final fives as given should have remained, and the Cy Committee
accept them regardless of the complaints, justified or not.

Having said that, I would still be interested to know what actually happened
in the compilation of finalists. The community put its trust in the
compilation being done completely and accurately. Who on the Selection
Committee (besides Daphne) did complete and submit their finalist
selections? Who were the selections submitted to? Who tallied the
selections? Were the tallies checked by anyone?

Finally, I do hope that for the next Cys the Selection Committee process is
redone and we do get a finalists list.

Regards, Justin


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