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Feb 27, 2002, 4:25pm

and msn ? :D


"kah" <kah at kahnews.cjb.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> aaah, why does somebody else always do the same thing as me at the same
> time? lol, my bot does the exact same thing, with the addition of IRC
> relaying and I've got plans to implement things like AIM and ICQ into
it...
>
> KAH
>
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Feb 13, 2002, 1:01am

in europe we have that , every citizen gets an ID card when he gets 12 years
old , he has to be able to how this ID at any time , it has a picture , name
, date of birth , place of birth , adress at the time , and signature , i
think its good the Us is going to use the same thing , cause now , if i am
not mistaken , thing like drivers licences are used for indentification,
wich not every citizen has .


"builderz" <sawran at yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> I can only imagine what different opinions/stances all of you have on
> this matter. I received this e-mail today:
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++
>
> TO: ACLU Action Network Members
> FR: Jared Feuer, Internet Organizer
> DT: February 12, 2002
>
> In response to September 11th, many have started talking about creating
> a national ID
> system as a counter-terrorism measure. In fact, the American Association
> of Motor Vehicle
> Administrators is already urging the federal government to create a
> national ID system by
> linking state drivers licenses and state databases.
>
> Unfortunately, just like the use of Social Security numbers evolved far
> beyond its
> original purpose, a national ID card is likely to lead to a surveillance
> society where our
> movements are monitored and recorded through the use of "internal
> passports."
>
> A national ID card would not prevent terrorism, and in fact, would lure
> us into a false
> sense of security by enabling individuals with an ID -- who may in fact
> be terrorists --
> to avoid heightened security measures. The creation of a national ID
> would be a misplaced
> "quick fix" that would pose serious threats to our freedom and privacy.
>
> Take Action! You can read more and send a FREE FAX to your Members of
> Congress, urging
> them to oppose the motor vehicle administrators' proposal from our
> action alert at:
>
> http://www.aclu.org/action/id107.html
>
> **********
> Help Strengthen the ACLU's Voice in Congress...
> Click Below to Become a Card-Carrying Member today!
> http://www.aclu.org/action/joinaclu.html
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++
>
> -Builderz

Feb 13, 2002, 1:58pm

yeh in germany and belgium where i lived we have that , also france holland
and others use it


"kah" <kah at kahnews.cjb.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> in central Europe I think it's quite usual (Germany, France, Belgium),
there
> you can get a federal ID card at a very young age (at least you could in
> Belgium when I lived there), and the police may ask for your papers in the
> street... never seen it happen up here in northern Europe though...
>
> KAH
>
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Feb 14, 2002, 2:24am

it only says name , adress , place of birth , place of birth , your cit # ,
and your picture


"bodhitah" <bodhitah at hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> I believe the main concern for most Americans is not the ID itself, but
the
> imbedded information it may contain. Right now most bank credit cards
> contain much more information than most people know. The bank credit cards
> of late contain your entire credit history, your employment info and your
> spending habits for consumer credit companies to track.
> The National ID proposals would include your and your families medical
> history, all of the above listed info and if certain people have their
way,
> a micro-transponder that will allow satellite tracking of any and all
> cardholders. I for one would never accept the proposal of a national ID
> card. I would rather risk imprisonment for failure to comply than submit
to
> this "Big Brother" plan for societal surveillance. I urge every American
to
> resist this plan and support the ACLU in it's fight.
> And thank you to builderz for bringing this info here.
>
> ~BodhiTah
>
>

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