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Comments SMC #33 BOAT
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Comments SMC #33 BOAT // Speed Model Challenge
Post by Nez // Aug 5, 2008, 10:56pm
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I think if you haven't actually included that element then you don't need to include the time - but if you manage to get it working and include it you possibly should? I know in the past, some people have openly used 'offline' practice to figure out their techniques before putting together their entry in the alotted time.
But I guess it's a hazy one - we'll see what the others think. I agree with Georg that your boat is very cool... |
Post by trueSpaced // Aug 6, 2008, 5:46am
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Yeah, I think if no changes were made to the boat within the timeframe that you were messing with the cloth, it shouldn't count; it isn't any different than closing TrueSpace and staring at your computer for half an hour as far as your model is concerned ;)
-TrueSpaced:banana: |
Post by kena // Aug 6, 2008, 7:04am
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guys (and Kena) ... got a technical question for you...
Started modeling my entry last night but tried to experiment with 7.6 realtime cloth adn wind simulation which failed horribly (the cloth keeps crumbling up and wraps around itself into a bundle ) so I spent about an hour or so trying to get that to work for a nice "boat sail flapping in the wind" effect which I dropped for later since I didn't get anywhere...
my question is, should I count that hour as part of the modeling time restriction for the boat SMC? Because then I have spent about 3.5 hours already and would like to add some more small modeling details to the mesh before submitting it...
Ps. started a WIP for the boat since I plan to expand the model and scene after I submitted it for SMC... here is the thread : >>SMC33 boat WIP<< (http://forums1.caligari.com/truespace/showthread.php?p=75417#post75417)
I'm a guy!!! my handle is KenA because my first name is Ken and my last name starts with an "A" :p
and I would say that if you do not include the element, then you do not need to add it to your time, but Prodigy is running this contest this time around, so he would have the final word. |
Post by trueSpaced // Aug 6, 2008, 9:31am
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I'm a guy!!! my handle is KenA because my first name is Ken and my last name starts with an "A" :p
LOL :D
-TrueSpaced:banana: |
Post by theuns // Aug 6, 2008, 8:56pm
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thanks for the comments guys [including KenA ;) didn't mean you weren't a guy, just directed the message directly to you for input :) thought you ran with this one ]
seems like the consensus is no, will wait for Prodigy for the final say just in case ;)
almost done with mine, posted another image in the WIP today, gonna do texturing and lighting now, think the modeling is done, will post the final render tomorrow :D |
Post by kena // Aug 7, 2008, 4:57am
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heh... I'm doing the Monthly Modeling chalange this time around. I usually enter THIS one, but don't win. It just improves my skills to do it. :D |
Post by prodigy // Aug 7, 2008, 7:47am
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Hey! many great entrys :)
Will be a tough decision for sure, and i love tough decisions :cool:
About my project i have the model done under 1.45 hs +- will try to have finished before sunday..
What ever guys!
Thanks! |
Post by theuns // Aug 7, 2008, 11:33pm
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Okay, uploaded mine as well, wanted to do some more but ran out of time since i cant upload tomorrow or the day after...
Now it is time for the MMC :)
Ps. Is there a forum/thread for the official Caligari monthly competition or do you just go to the gallery and enter there? is the theme there too? |
Post by kena // Aug 8, 2008, 4:54am
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wow! Star-Wars meets Teledahn! (http://en.mystlore.com/wiki/Teledahn) I like it! |
Post by Nez // Aug 10, 2008, 10:14pm
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Hey! many great entrys :)
Will be a tough decision for sure, and i love tough decisions :cool:
About my project i have the model done under 1.45 hs +- will try to have finished before sunday..
What ever guys!
Thanks!
Come on Prodigy! We want to see that boat! :D
By a strange co-incidence, I actually saw the Earthrace boat this weekend! I was in Portsmouth and saw it coming into the harbour from the opposite shore - a very cool looking craft! Sadly, it was just a bit too far off to get a decent picture but I got a reasonable look through binoculars... |
Post by CdeB // Aug 11, 2008, 12:01am
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Not only 18 entries but several first timers like myself, throwing their lots in.
The voting so far reflects the high standard of several entries, and thus the difficulty of making a decision...I was torn between Nez's submarine (having extra appreciation after making a crude attempt myself) and Theuns "sand?" boat (I thought of Starwars, but Keno is right about the Myst echo -both of which drew me into 3D art). Anyway, both images were striking and compelling, but several of the rest probably as good...not the time to make a first entry though;).
Interestingly, most of the names are seasoned members of these forums. Perphaps next time the first wave of tS7.6 will have wrestled with the interface, ´manual and videos to make a showing:) |
Post by theuns // Aug 11, 2008, 2:46am
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Never played Myst so I haven't heard of Teledahn ... got the idea from those tri-wheeled contraptions with surfing sails on that races across the beach or desert and the Star Wars floater thing on Tatooine near that huge sand worm hole thing :)
Nice to see so many entries and since there are entries with tS3.2 in here, just shows that you don't need the latest tools and versions to do good models... there was nothing really specific in my model that can only be done by 7.6. I did enjoy using the realtime booleans in 7.6 workspace but that is not part of the boat and booleans can also be done in 3.2 with just more time ;)
I almost didn't use 7.6 Workspace at all so I could have done this in 6.6 or before... ;) |
Post by Heidi // Aug 11, 2008, 3:06am
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What's always fun to see in the SMC's is the different approach and interpretation of the challenge topic.
Also, even though it didn't meet the entry deadline, Cthulhu did a super job with his kayak...and mastered nurbs to do it. :banana: |
Post by noko // Aug 11, 2008, 8:04am
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That is also the fun part, seeing totally different tools being used in tS. For one I used nothing but WS tools, someone else modeling tools, even nurbs :banana:. I was tempted just showing the model, which may have been a wiser choice in my final image but this also showed me where my weakness is as well ;). |
Post by Cthulhu // Aug 11, 2008, 5:17pm
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Man, going into this I thought "How hard could it be to make a boat?" Shows how much I know... :D
Everyone did a great job. :banana: I hope to participate in more of these challenges (and maybe finish on time :rolleyes:).
Thanks for the kind words Heidi. I don't think I've quite mastered NURBS, though; just merely given the illusion of decent NURBS modeling (just make it shiny and orange and no one will notice... LOL). |
Post by Nez // Aug 11, 2008, 10:14pm
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actually, that's a pretty decent strategy for NURBS - I did pretty much the same thing in the 'shoe' SMC a long time back - the actual nurbs model was far from great but it looked pretty good in a nice shiny finish!
It's great to see a few more folks entering the challenges, both newcomers and longer term folks who've not tried it before. It's been a really good turnout the last couple of challenges. Hope many of you will try again next time round! |
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