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Re: Why We War (was Re: Bin Laden's Special Song) (General Discussion)
Re: Why We War (was Re: Bin Laden's Special Song) // General Discussion
Oct 31, 2001, 12:34am
Thank you for that link, I've bookmarked it. :)
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Imagine a moral code rooted in beauty, love, pleasure, and liberation
instead of order, control, repression, and fear.
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[View Quote]"sw chris" <chrisw10 at nckcn.com> wrote in message =
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> In response to the first problem:
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> http://www.drudgereport.com/
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> SW Chris
> Eagle Scout, Philosopher, Peacemaker, and... Kung Fu Master?
> http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html
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> "aine" <Aine at DeDanaan.com> wrote in message
> news:3bdf2b30 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> This may help:
> http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-robbins100801.shtml
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> It gives some background information about the goings on of 1921, it =
also
> explains fairly well "Why We War" (which is the topic of this thread).
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> What do I think? I think many (note, I did not say ALL) Americans are
> completely unaware of anything that goes on outside their front doors, =
they
> rely on what they see on television, in the newspapers (if they bother =
to
> read those), and they desire to be spoon-fed pabulum by the mass media =
(who
> doesn't, btw, tell us everything, they only tell us what stories they =
think
> will Sell). What Sells is not reality, what Sells is entertainment.
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> Do you remember the Nirvana song "Smells Like Teen Spirit"? In it =
Kurt
> Cobain is expressing this idea that we Americans do not actually take =
the
> time to understand and absorb the feelings and ideas that are =
important, but
> that Generation X has numbed itself to what is really going on in the =
world.
> He strove as an artist to wake people up to Really Living, to Feel =
with
> their hearts and minds, instead of accepting that spoon-feeding. The =
song
> was a statement... "here we are now / entertain us". Because he could =
not
> reach through that numbness and make us see clearly the reality of the
> situation, he became despondent and he killed himself. That's what =
that was
> about. And that's what my post was also about.... trying to make =
people see
> things for themselves.
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> What do I think? As a former "warrior" and disabled vet, I think war =
should
> be the very last choice a nation should make and, only after all =
attempts to
> resolve a problem have failed should it be undertaken, and then it =
should be
> undertaken for very good reasons (and not just retribution) and then a
> full-out, full-bore war should be fought until the situation is =
resolved. I
> think the media and the politicians have attempted to paint the =
picture that
> part of the reason that we are now in this war against Terrorism is =
for
> humanitarian reasons... human rights, for example. Clearly, that is =
not a
> motive for this war.
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> A look back over just the past ten years of the history of Afghanistan =
will
> show you that the Taliban was put into place with U.S. money, aid, and =
arms,
> streamed through Pakistan, because we thought the Northern Alliance =
(who was
> the previous government) needed to be ousted from power. Russia has
> everything to do with what is going on in Afghanistan today, and from =
what
> I've been reading, they've already made a deal with the Northern =
Alliance to
> build a post-war oil pipeline right through Afghanistan to secure =
themselves
> a mideast oil supply. Look into that. Look into what the real =
motivations
> for this war are. Don't ask to be entertained.
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> =C1ine
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> Imagine a moral code rooted in beauty, love, pleasure, and liberation
> instead of order, control, repression, and fear.
> =
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> "goober king" <rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu> wrote in message
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Granted,
trying
people's
Where
communism
> was abolished there, but frankly, I have trouble believing that.
with the
> death penalty and prisons.
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liberation
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Russia
> has
responsability and
you
> wanna
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