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Jun 8, 2004, 8:38pm

I dont know if I already mentioned this (I probably did, and forgot why it
wouldn't work), but a cube cell grid would allow for people to build
skyscrapers without worrying about reaching area full. The visibility
settings in worlds with a cubic cell grid would have to be modified too.
Instead of a cylindrical shaped visibility field we have now, worlds with a
cube cell grid would have a spherical visibility field (Imagine trying to
render 300 meters up and down of fully furnished skyscrapers with this old
renderware engine, would be disasterous)
Why wouldn't this work?

Jun 9, 2004, 3:59pm

Cool idea but this would cause a few problems, firstly geting cell data from
the world server you will have to download more data, small problem. Also
the big increase of probdump and world server database size.
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Jun 9, 2004, 4:23pm

nah worlds could be bought just like they are now, just you add new
dimensions

P20

would have 40x40x40 cube (20 each direction, up, down, north, south, east,
west....its simple
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Jun 10, 2004, 9:03pm

The whole way the world server works might have to be completely
reprogrammed, though. Instead of managing objects in a 2d fashion like it
is now, it would have to be managed in a 3d fashion.

Jun 11, 2004, 3:54am

If they're going to redesign the whole property database management anyway,
they might as well dump cell space and switch to a per-object download
system.

Cells have a limit now because they are downloaded in *one* big packet of
info, which is hard on the internet and the risk of it failing transfer
grows as the data packet grows. There's also the bonus of maintaining lag
with a cells; but that could still be arranged with a per-object download
system. Objects per coord and the way objects download would be split into
two systems is all.

But if a cube cell grid is done? Despite what the previous comments made, I
disagree. Propdumps wouldn't become all massive, suddenly. I've looked at
propdumps and they don't list any info about blank cells. Existing
buildings would use about the same space, since the data the building was
using in one cell is now divided amoung a bunch of cells, and when you add
those all up, you get the orignal data used. People would be able to pack
more info into a given area, of course; but that's just the price you pay
for more detailed evironment, one that's worth it IMO.


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Jun 13, 2004, 2:04pm

Hi everyone:

[View Quote] I guess there's not much point in building a hospital with all the rooms and
stuff that a hospital has huh?

> Why wouldn't this work?

I probably would work if they upgraded the renderware engine. :-)

Cheers for now :-)

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Jun 13, 2004, 2:41pm

Renderware is the graphic engine; AFAIK it has nothing to do with the way
things are downloaded =P


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Jun 15, 2004, 6:41am

Hi everyone:

[View Quote] Still though...How long has it been since they upgraded the engine? Might
help in improving the quality of the overall scene (especially in places
like AlphaWorld)..

Just a thought :-)

Jun 15, 2004, 3:31pm

An upgrade wouldn't make existing thing magically better. It would require
the buildings to take advantage of the new features. For example pixel
shading commands, if those become available.

The last major upgrade was AW version 3.0.

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Jun 15, 2004, 8:46pm

Hi everyone:

[View Quote] But at least it would probably help to increase the cell limit, wouldn't it?
I would think it would...

Jun 17, 2004, 12:03am

No, it wouldn't...the ONLY reason why it might is if the graphic engine is
more efficent and runs at a higher fps, in which case, having more objects
in an area wouldn't cause as much lag...thereby encouraging AWI to rewrite
the way things are downloaded, allowing more objects.

> But at least it would probably help to increase the cell limit, wouldn't
it?
> I would think it would...
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