Artistic tips for dummies would be nice.

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Artistic tips for dummies would be nice. // Tutorium Requests

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Post by Shike // Apr 17, 2007, 11:31pm

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I'm just a geometry creator and constantly fails on the presentation part :o


Would love to see tutorials by great artists about a couple of things:


* How to describe feelings and moods with color and light....


* How to direct the viewer to a specific area by using light, scenery-lines, DOF, arrangement of things....


* How to simulate real photographing, angles, DOF, Color, Postprocess-noice in Photoshop/PaintShopPro/Gimp and so on. (I've seen in a lot of threads that we have photographers among us that might be able to explain these things. When to use, how much, or why not.)



Sure, I've picked up a couple of things over the years by looking around the forum, and have recieved a lot of great tips from fellow forum members, but it would be nice to have it collected in the tutorium.

Also read several books on the above subjects, but they are usually aimed at artists. I'd prefer a "For Dummies" presentation that more clearly explains why something is done in a scene and perhaps comparisons between images that use a specific trick/don't use the trick. :rolleyes:

Post by nowherebrain // May 8, 2007, 3:35pm

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Don't eat the glue.;)


I know this is only one part of your suggestion but, Have you seen my DOF tut. It does not use the built in post process junk.( another DOF plug by me, trying to get some feed back so I know if I should do more)

Post by Jack Edwards // May 8, 2007, 4:31pm

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Shike,

I think you should try writing the artistic tips tutorials. Judging from your works, you already have a great handle on the subject. You're work is already very impressive and shows very good concept of the art skills you've mentioned.

Also in researching and making the tutorials it should help you further develop your own skills as well.

I could probably do one on color theory, I've got Johannes Itten's book on color theory lying around and I've take courses in color theory, but it would be even cooler if maybe we could get Emmanuel to do one. His whale illustration showed very nice use of complementary color to increase visual vibrancy.

-Jack.

Post by nowherebrain // May 8, 2007, 4:34pm

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He does have a good eye. I really appreciate the life he puts into texture.

@ shrike..middle aged member...ha ha ..I like that, I should change mine to over the hill...jack is right behind(I peeked)

Post by Jack Edwards // May 9, 2007, 2:26am

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Yeah yeah. I was just noting that in another thread that some of us are getting dangerously close to earning the title "senior member"... :p


-Jack.

Post by Shike // May 16, 2007, 1:59am

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Yep, I've turned 35, and thought Middle-aged sounded better than Senior ;)

(In a couple of years I'll probably feel ready to change it to "Old and cranky" :p )


@nowherebrain:

I've checked your DOF tutorial and I like it, I've heard about a similar method to create soft shadows...wouldn't have thought about using it for DOF :)

Sure gives a better (more realistic) result than postprocess which usually only works when the DOF-effect starts beyond the focus object.


However, I probably still have to do DOF in Photoshop(or try the one in Vray1.5), since your excellent jitter-method would take too long for my renders. (I hardly have patience for one single frame to be finished ;))

And it would be nice to have a photographers view on if/how/when/why DOF should be used....I know that I overdid DOF in one of my triBeast renders...and suddenly it looked like a tiny 1:100scale model :rolleyes:

And I've seen elaborated explanations from expert photographers when they think someone uses DOF in the wrong way.

Unfortunately they usually want to avoid hijacking the thread and stops before I'm fully satisfied ;)


@Jack:

Thanks, but my skills are more technical, and there is already several other excellent tutorials on that, both in the forum and in the Caligari-courses.

What you mention about Color theory is just what I'm looking for.... that and explanations about how to illustrate feelings and stuff with composition and light (and color of course)...

Things that I unfortunately can't grasp....I'm more of a Graphics-Engineer if such a thing exists ;)
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