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Post by Neuromancer // Mar 16, 2007, 2:07am

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Hello, first time poster to these forums, glad to be here :)


aaanyway, have an opportunity to get a 3d labs realizm 500 for a great deal ... its an OPEN GL based card ... was wondering if anyone had ever used any of their products before with truespace and how they worked?


does anyone currently use an OPEN GL card with truespace period?


thanks guys ... would be cool to post your specs too to see what peeps r using ..

Post by Shike // Mar 16, 2007, 4:20am

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Hello, first time poster to these forums, glad to be here :)


aaanyway, have an opportunity to get a 3d labs realizm 500 for a great deal ... its an OPEN GL based card ... was wondering if anyone had ever used any of their products before with truespace and how they worked?


does anyone currently use an OPEN GL card with truespace period?


thanks guys ... would be cool to post your specs too to see what peeps r using ..


Welcome ! :D

What version of trueSpace are you running?

trueSpace7 is introducing some really nice DirectX9 support, so for that an OpenGL card might not be the right choise.

(I did however in previous versions of trueSpace primarily use OpenGL, because that worked better for me than directX)


Also, I don't think that Vista have any good openGL support.... so if you plan to move in that direction.... :confused:

(not an expert on Vista, but we have some other user here that might tell if I'm right or not.)

Post by ProfessorKhaos // Mar 16, 2007, 4:27am

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Advantage to OpenGL depends a bit on version of trueSpace I'd think.


Versions up through 6.6 can use OpenGL. 7.11 has the ability to use OpenGL in the modeller tab but I believe the player makes use of DirectX only.


OpenGL gives me slightly poorer quality results (noticable as banding in textures) though I'm not sure if it's due to my own card or not. Currently using a Nvidia GeForce 6200 here with a dual monitor setup.


Unless you have other apps that depend on OpenGL and you're trying to optimize their performance I'd focus on DirectX performance.


P.K.


looks like I'm a day late and a dollar short again... Shrike beat me to it :D

Post by TomG // Mar 16, 2007, 7:15am

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Personally I would recommend against it. OGL remains useful pretty much only if you are in the area of CAD, engineering, or architecture, where expensive specialist programs still use OGL. These OGL cards give great performance in those particular apps, but do very badly for general computer use like games, general purpose 3D apps, and so on.


Check the hardware sites about exciting graphics, and you find them talking about DirectX and its next version and what it will bring, and not talking about OGL.


Also note that a card with good DirectX support will have good OGL support too, so you won't be left out of running those other apps - you won't get that extra bit of speed from it being a specialist card, but you will be left running them quite reasonably (unlike running a DirectX application on an OGL board).


And yep, tS7 is founded on DirectX - to get all the real-time advantages, DirextX9.0c with full pixel shader 2.0 support is required. Also yep, Vista is much more DirectX oriented.


So, if you are in a specialist field and have specialist OGL apps, then this is a good route to go. If you have a general purpose computer though, and you plan on Vista and tS7 at any point in the future, and you play games, I would strongly suggest going with one of the big two in the general purpose field - ATI and NVIDIA - where you can get great performance for anything from $120 up.


HTH!

Tom
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