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Laptop graphics cards and ts7
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Laptop graphics cards and ts7 // Hardware
Post by CdeB // Feb 17, 2006, 12:49am
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Hi,
I am thinking of a new work laptop which I will also be able to run at least truePlayer and hopefully tS7. I need the mobility of the laptop and I won't have the budget for both desktop and laptop...
Since I don't want a desktop replacement I have been looking at a 15.4" screen Dell Inspiron 6000. It has a Radeon mobility x300 PCexpress graphics card with 128 Mb of Dedicated memory. Often these are supplied with shared memory which obviously I do not want. It is definitely directX 9.0 compatible, but I need 9.0c for trueSpace. Does anybody have any experience with either this computer or the graphics card setup on another laptop and tS7?
Dell (and I guess other companies) supply GeForce 6800 or 7800 Go, but only on heavyweight 17" desktop replacement Lap(NOT!!)tops.
I checked out ATI's site but they are non-commital about what the chipset does, as it seems to be under the final control of the computer manufacturer.
Any experience would be helpful...
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Post by Alien // Feb 19, 2006, 6:16am
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I'm afraid I can't offer much advice in this instance, aside from telling you that the X300 is the low-end/budget model of the previous generation of ATI adapters. |
Post by Johny // Feb 19, 2006, 4:57pm
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Mine is Itell Pentium M.
1.49 GHz 736 of RAM
with Intel 82852/82855 Graphics Controller. |
Post by CdeB // Feb 19, 2006, 11:04pm
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Thanks Alien
Your comment about x300 rings true. Further investigation makes me think x600 may work and x700 almost certainly does. The issue is partly that ATI say their mobility cards are direct 9.0 compatible, but fail to mention whether that includes direct 9.0c...Nvidia by contrast does give this info. So you have to trawl through Pixel shader info on the specifications but this isn't also very clear.
Jonny, Thanks -I am interested that a Intel graphics chip works with tS7.0, does this give full support for the realtime rendering?
My remaining question...perhaps to developers...:D ...is what is it that tS7.0 needs in terms of the specifics...the specifications for tS7.0 do not give detailed info...only that direct 9.0c is required...maybe some of this info is available on the lightworks site, as this is where the realtime rendering is coming from...I'll have a look... |
Post by Alien // Feb 19, 2006, 11:17pm
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The lowest [numbered] ATI card that's 9.0c complient, as far as I can tell (http://www.rojakpot.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=88&pgno=0), is the X1300. Cards below/older than that will work in the player, & you will get real time rendering, just not with all the features. I don't know what features 9.0c complient cards add to the player, as I don't have 1. :( I'm still stuck with a 9600 Pro. |
Post by splinters // Feb 20, 2006, 1:18am
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My laptop has the radeon 9000IGP chipset and I cannot get shadows to work.:confused: However, I have an Ati Radeon 9800 Pro 256mb on my desktop and the player runs fast and smooth. However, I can only get Level 3 AA and shadow filtering does not seem to work. Here is a screen shot from TS7 beta just before release-runs much better now and that bike moves at a full 30-FPS at the very least; |
Post by CdeB // Feb 20, 2006, 3:16am
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Thanks guys,
I now have a candidate which is the M70 from Dell. It has a 15.4 screen, M740 processor (1.73Mhz) 1 Gb ram but most attractively, NVIDIA Quadro FX Go1400 for PCI Express with 256 Mb dedicated video ram. It has explicit 9.0c support. Looks like it will do the job. I have gone for the lowest processer speed due to budget...and the need to prioritize the graphics side. Despite the current driver issue with Nvidia, but reflecting on Splinters ATI laptop vs desktop experience, I am thinking nVidia. My home computer with Dell's cutdown version of the GT 6800 with 256 Mb runs well with tS7.0
So anybody direct experience with this particular laptop, Dell I know about;) ?
Chris |
Post by Johny // Feb 20, 2006, 7:06am
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Jonny, Thanks -I am interested that a Intel graphics chip works with tS7.0, does this give full support for the realtime rendering?
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No,I don't have any shadow on my realtime rendering with my 82852/82855 GC.:(
But that's not problem because realtime rendering result not same with the real rendering result:p I also disabled the bridge option because I don't need realtime rendering for now and it waste some computer resource if enable.:mad: |
Post by SteveBe // Feb 23, 2006, 1:15pm
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I tried tS7 on my Toshiba P30 (burnt)laptop and it works well. It has an
ATI 9700 128 MB Mobility on board. Player runs smoothly at level 3 AA.
The only missing feature is supersampling. |
Post by GraySho // Feb 28, 2006, 11:41am
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The most important thing for good workflow in tS7 is RAM. Anything less than 1GB seems to be insufficient. I myself have a Toshiba Tecra Notebook with Mobility Radeon 9000 and only 512MB RAM. While the Realtime Graphics Applications have no problems on their own, truespace 7 runs just sluggish. The harddisk LED is busy most of the time due to swapping.
Note that rendering results of any Rendering engine (except direct x realtime engine in player view) are not affected by your graphics card at all. The only difference between a DX8 and DX9 cards is that the newer cards can show more eyecandy in Player view, though they run both fine with the latest DX 9.0c installation. |
Post by stoker // Feb 28, 2006, 11:53am
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I can move around the ducati scene smoothly with an old 'Desktop' P4 1.59 256mb Ram Nvidia Ge-force 4 Graphics 40gb HD. Dont no how it runs at all :D :D :confused: lol |
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