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Unusual isn't it?
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Unusual isn't it? // Work in Progress
Post by Weevil // Oct 28, 2008, 12:50am
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I don't usually do things like this. Why is it work in progress...you'll see. This part of it is done but there's more to come
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i192/Weasle_01/corridor1.jpg
What a pity it's tied in with halloween. To be honest I think the knife stands out a wee bit too much, it lacks depth. Thoughts? |
Post by Nez // Oct 28, 2008, 1:55am
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I barely noticed the knife on my first glance, the dark handle is difficult to make out due to the placement, and yes, overall the knife isn't totally convincing....
...but the rest of the scene rocks! Really good textures, deceptively simple looking modelling, moddy lighting, very coo, indeed. Makes me think of another 'moody corridor' WIP (was it be Jayr or Dragneye? can't remember!), albeit a more modern feel. Almost seems a shame to add more to it.... but interested to see what you have planned...
EDIT - you could do with some better thread titles! All of your recent threads have left me very curious indeed, though perhaps that's the idea... |
Post by tahnoak // Oct 28, 2008, 2:23am
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I don't usually do things like this. Why is it work in progress...you'll see. This part of it is done but there's more to come
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i192/Weasle_01/corridor1.jpg
What a pity it's tied in with halloween. To be honest I think the knife stands out a wee bit too much, it lacks depth. Thoughts?
Weevil.. I like it a lot. I am by no means an expert but I like the feel of the image. I agree that the knife handle blends in with the ground which almost makes it difficult to see. I like the knife blade but the end seems too pointy (if you can have a knife that is too pointy ;) and agree that it stands out just a shade too much. Maybe if you move the handle into the light and put the blade in the shadow, just a thought.
I have lots of ideas but will wait to see what your next version brings. |
Post by Weevil // Oct 28, 2008, 6:57am
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Thanks you two. What I did then, is got rid of the knife...now to update my submission to the gallery...
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i192/Weasle_01/corridor1-1.jpg
But the knife on it's own don't look so bad. Granted not a beauty render..
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i192/Weasle_01/knife.jpg
And as for ideas. Fire away guys! I would love to hear what you could do with them!
But what I had in mind had something to do with the "Kate O'donnel" character I was making a while back...she dropped her knife y'see
you could do with some better thread titles! All of your recent threads have left me very curious indeed, though perhaps that's the idea...
he he...aren't I just the worst type of person? |
Post by tahnoak // Oct 28, 2008, 8:32am
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Thanks you two. What I did then, is got rid of the knife...now to update my submission to the gallery...
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i192/Weasle_01/corridor1-1.jpg
But the knife on it's own don't look so bad. Granted not a beauty render..
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i192/Weasle_01/knife.jpg
And as for ideas. Fire away guys! I would love to hear what you could do with them!
But what I had in mind had something to do with the "Kate O'donnel" character I was making a while back...she dropped her knife y'see
he he...aren't I just the worst type of person?
Weevil,
Okay, now that I see the blade I can see why it is the shape that it is. Without knowing the background of the "Kate O'donnel" story, I thought the knife was a good touch. It added to the mystery of the scene.
Obviously it is a dark an damp alley/corridor/hallway. That in itself is pretty ominous; however, if you put some pools of standing water dispersed throughout the scene and some possibly tinted with red to simulate blood flowing through the grate might cause more unease while looking at the image. That was one of the things that I liked about the knife. It added to the uncertainty of one's fate by going further along. The knife was used on someone or by someone. Without the knife in the scene, I am looking for a mugger. With the knife in the scene I am looking for a killer.
just my opinion. Either way, looks good. |
Post by Weevil // Oct 28, 2008, 9:05am
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Way to go Tahnoak. That's the type of analysis I like. Have a banana:banana:
As for the water, I thought about it, I really did but I wasn't sure I could pull something off like that. I also thought it would be too...normal for a dark scene, but then, this is a pretty uniform render. I'll give it a whirl
So, the nutshell for me...sort the knife out, unscrew the plumbing a bit.
Cheers man |
Post by tahnoak // Oct 28, 2008, 10:26am
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Way to go Tahnoak. That's the type of analysis I like. Have a banana:banana:
As for the water, I thought about it, I really did but I wasn't sure I could pull something off like that. I also thought it would be too...normal for a dark scene, but then, this is a pretty uniform render. I'll give it a whirl
So, the nutshell for me...sort the knife out, unscrew the plumbing a bit.
Cheers man
The other thing that I was thinking about was having a door slightly ajar in the distance which is letting through some light. This gives us a goal, something to aim for (a proverbial light at the end of the tunnel). It also makes us want to go a little further and see if maybe there is someone or something inside that room. Someplace to hide from the darkness we find ourselves in; however, to get there we have to traverse the length of the darkened corridor. Is it worth it? |
Post by Weevil // Oct 28, 2008, 10:29am
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I considered it, but what I was setting the scene up for something later...you'll something glowing in the darkness, and kate's there with a gun pointing into the darkness
But as another scene that I'll take more time over I'll get rid of the fog and have a dungeon like door
When I get this one done that is |
Post by Weevil // Oct 29, 2008, 5:38am
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http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i192/Weasle_01/corridor2.jpgAlthough it's not noticable enough, put a bloody handprint on the door but it hasn't shown up. I need to put a better toning map on the entire scene.
But the water works |
Post by Weevil // Oct 29, 2008, 7:52am
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Improvement:
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i192/Weasle_01/corridor2-1.jpg
I don't think knife works if it's on the FLOOR...I need to find something else to do with it |
Post by robert // Oct 29, 2008, 10:02am
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Maybe have it look like it was discarded in haste in the gutter or something... I was going to suggest sticking it in something, but not sure what.:p |
Post by spacekdet // Oct 29, 2008, 10:09am
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It looks less like a knife and more like a bit of broken glass.
Maybe it's the unusual shape.
Once you start to 'see' that it's a knife-like, (and I'm not sure I would have 'seen' it if you hadn't told us) it looks big enough to be a sword.
The puddle looks good.
The lighting at the end of the hall needs some tweaking...there is a bright window but no corresponding glow on the nearby surfaces. |
Post by Weevil // Oct 29, 2008, 10:34am
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yes. I got to admit I wasn't so sure about the last one. I decided to completely do away with the door. What I'm going to do is have the knife sticking out of a a bloodsoaked pumpkin instead. I can also move the handprint further down the wall |
Post by Weevil // Oct 29, 2008, 12:32pm
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Yeah...the pumpkin thing kinda didn't work. I couldn't get it to look right or look subtle enough. So what I did was this. I think the idea of this one is you have to LOOK to see if there's something wrong (but you know that already :rolleyes:)
first one with, second without "brighten up" applied
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i192/Weasle_01/corridor3.jpg
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i192/Weasle_01/corridor4.jpg |
Post by robert // Oct 29, 2008, 12:39pm
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The second one actually looks brighter... Somehow the knife doesn't look connected to the scene, how did you do the lighting? It doesn't seem to be making the right shadows... |
Post by Weevil // Oct 29, 2008, 12:40pm
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Maybe I should just drop the knife entirely...it's more trouble than it's worth. The blood does enough of the talking |
Post by robert // Oct 29, 2008, 12:45pm
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You could put a section of pipe on the ground, a blunt instrument instead of a combat knife is definitely more sinister, or a crowbar...:p |
Post by Weevil // Oct 29, 2008, 12:50pm
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actually...just been talking to a mate of mine and he just did some after effects for me...check it out
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i192/Weasle_01/corridor4a.jpg
He gave me permission to use. But is it accepted in the monthly gallery I wonder? |
Post by TheWickedWitchOfTheWeb // Oct 30, 2008, 2:05am
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No offence intended but that looks like someone's spilt some red ink on your picture! Your original efforts were much more convincing and the puddle added a lot of atmosphere that is missing in that later one. The knife in the grate is kinda weird. Apart from looking like a glitch in the render, one must ask, if the handle went through, why didn't the pointy sharp bit? I do feel it's better without it, let the viewer draw their own conclusions, they're likely to ponder the pic longer if you don't serve up all the answers.
I do hope you decide to put the door back in as it opened up more thoughts; did the victim make it to the safety of the light area? Did the attacker get away? Is that where they came in from? What's behind that area that is such a juxtaposition? and so on.
Looking forward to see what's next, keep it up. |
Post by Weevil // Oct 30, 2008, 5:30am
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None taken. After effect = after thought.
So. Going on what you said. I've fixed up the door a bit, and I've changed the knife with something else. Can you spot it?
(Oh and I've fixed the hand print to a slightly more real colour. But how old is that print?)
Edited for not putting the picture up
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i192/Weasle_01/corridor6.jpg |
Post by Weevil // Oct 30, 2008, 7:07am
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added glow effects on
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i192/Weasle_01/corridor7.jpg |
Post by robert // Oct 30, 2008, 9:54am
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Can't tell if those are fingers on the ground, but it looks like they could be. Somehow this kinda reminds me of the video game Gears of War.;) Can't wait for the second one to come out, just over a week!!!:p |
Post by Weevil // Oct 30, 2008, 10:25am
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That's part of the mystery...
*bang bang* |
Post by TomG // Oct 30, 2008, 10:40am
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They looked like bullet cases to me, at first thought. Though I see how they could be fingers (eeww gross, and all that hehe).
I do like this better without the knife, going for something more subtle engages the viewer more. I like how the blood is not immediately visible, it takes a moment or two to register. Going this subdued kind of route definitely works better for the image!
Ah GoW2! Yes, I might purchase that, we'll have to see. Not a lot of time at the moment, and already fairly involved in a game, so may not have time for GoW2 on release, we'll just see how it goes :)
Tom |
Post by Weevil // Oct 30, 2008, 10:45am
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Maybe I'll have to complete gears of war 1...can never seem to do it. May be a bit pricey too.
Oh and the fact that Britian gets games later...
Still...could be worse...could be in Australia
Oh...I should probably say I didn't know where this scene was going from the outset...Looks like a turned it into a murder scene (or my mate turned it into a pshyco scene)
Thanks tom...at least I know I did something right...that knife was more trouble than it was worth
What's everyone's opinions on the glows of the lights and the door? |
Post by TomG // Oct 30, 2008, 11:46am
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Myself, I'd like to see just the tiniest bit of detail through the door - almost but not quite almost entirely whited out like at present. I think this would help especially with the bars on the door, they seem to look a little unusual at present, and I think a bit of detail out there would be just enough to break that up.
I like the light glows.
HTH!
Tom |
Post by robert // Oct 30, 2008, 12:27pm
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The light glows are good, the only problem is the glow is yellow and the light given off is completely white.
And yes I did also think of bullet casings, but somehow decided against it.
Some detail through the door doesn't sound like a bad idea. |
Post by Weevil // Oct 30, 2008, 12:42pm
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Ah. Is this better?
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i192/Weasle_01/corridor8.jpg
Who knows what's behind the door...daylight maybe? |
Post by tahnoak // Oct 31, 2008, 6:55am
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Ah. Is this better?
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i192/Weasle_01/corridor8.jpg
Who knows what's behind the door...daylight maybe?
IMHO, that ROCKS (pardon the pun). Nice puddle, with the hint of possible blood and the safety (maybe?) of the lighted doorway. Nicely done. |
Post by TheWickedWitchOfTheWeb // Oct 31, 2008, 8:25am
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This is looking great, getting better and better. There's one thing that's bugging me though, the single hand print. It's too prominent (more like grafitti) and surely there should be several going down the corridor getting fainter and fainter?
Loving that puddle. |
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