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Blue screen of death
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Blue screen of death // Bugs
Post by camelot // Jun 5, 2007, 2:02pm
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This is reproducible 100% on my machine:
Start ts7.5
load clock scene from scenes-active
click on "reset to default conext"
I get blue screen of death saying
"igxpdx32.dll caused PAGE_FAULT_IN_NON_PAGED_AREA"
Brian |
Post by Bobbins // Jun 5, 2007, 10:36pm
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igxpdx32.dll is a driver for the Intel video chipset. It might be worth checking your video driver revision to see if there is a newer version available and if so, update.
I don't get the same error here, but I use a NVidia graphics adapter. |
Post by Norm // Jun 6, 2007, 7:55am
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bsod is indicative of hardware failure.
The dll mentioned is for built-in graphics card. Ideally you have a pci slot in the machine and a budget that allows for good graphics card rather than onboard graphics card.
Onboard just never as good as a dedicated card. |
Post by camelot // Jun 6, 2007, 1:31pm
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bsod is indicative of hardware failure.
The dll mentioned is for built-in graphics card. Ideally you have a pci slot in the machine and a budget that allows for good graphics card rather than onboard graphics card.
Onboard just never as good as a dedicated card.
Thanks for your reply norm.
I understand and agree with all you say about onboard cards, but being the wrong (or right as far as I am concerned!) side of 50 and having cut my teeth on the Sinclair ZX81 and used to have to write programs in machine code, when there was no Jobs, Wozniac or Gates I must say that in this day & age, there is no reason to get the bsod. I use a Dell laptop for all my work which is web design & technical illustration and use Carrara 5.1pro, Hexagon, TS (from v3), Bryce 6, turboCad 14, DesignCad 3d max, Floorplan v11 et al but this is the first time since Windows 98 that I have seen this. It is all too easy these days to blame the user's hardware. As far as I am concerned, this is a software fault.
Brian |
Post by Bobbins // Jun 6, 2007, 10:50pm
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If you haven't already, use your favourite search engine to look for igxpdx32.dll. You'll find a raft of results all pointing to the Intel video drivers.
I have to agree that it is a software fault - in the code written by Intel for their video chipsets. |
Post by weaveribm // Jun 6, 2007, 10:55pm
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since Windows 98
Bit nervous to ask what operating system you're running Brian?
Are you running exotic hardware you can disconnect to test? BSOD isn't likely to be thrown from an application
BIOS update? sometimes sorts out hardware/drivers problems
It is all too easy these days to blame the user's hardware. As far as I am concerned, this is a software fault... cut my teeth on the Sinclair ZX81 and used to have to write programs in machine code
Then you'll know that Norm said that it looks like hardware given the nature of your report.
My second computer was the BBC Model B/6502 Assembler here too, before that the 8 toggle switches to input one byte at a time on 8KB system RAM but it doesn't help if you're getting very low-level hardware error interrupts
'Page fault' is perhaps talking about your pagefile which may be too small or a surface error or some other incipient problem. You can use a pagefile defrag utility to check and defrag it on booting up, that's very handy and the utility will tell you how much the pagefile was used last time. If your hard drive has room for a larger pagefile try that perhaps and best is to create your pagefile on another drive rather than on your boot drive
On a quick Google...
I've run into this problem a couple times and it seemed to be related to my USB flash drive - seems to be fixed since I did the latest USB-related Windows Update.
If I ever find out what a page_fault_in _non_paged_area is - someone os going to pay. I mean how can there be a page fault where there are no pages? Isn't this like putting a "bridge freezes before road" sign in Florida... Or "Watch for falling rock" sign in Indiana. If it is a non-paged area - how on earth is there a page fault.
I'm always suspicious when I see the page word which appears to point to system RAM: but to the operating system your hard drive pagefile space is system RAM so on red herrings the note here on the pagefile
IF GrandmothersEggs THEN apologise(Brian) :)
Peter |
Post by camelot // Jun 6, 2007, 11:00pm
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If you haven't already, use your favourite search engine to look for igxpdx32.dll. You'll find a raft of results all pointing to the Intel video drivers.
I have to agree that it is a software fault - in the code written by Intel for their video chipsets.
cheers for that, Bobbins - very interesting!
Looks as though I may have to get a new machine with a proper card in it. |
Post by camelot // Jun 14, 2007, 1:06pm
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Hi Bobbins & weaveribm,
Just to prove my point, since uploading 7.51, I no longer get the bsod under the stated circumstances. ;)
weaveribm,
my setup is:
Dell Inspiron 6400 notebook, Intel Centrino Duo @ 1.86 Mhz, 1Gb ram, Intel 945GM integrated video, running Windows XP home, sp2. If I ever stop working on the move, I may get a desktop, but that's not likely in the foreseeable future.
Brian |
Post by weaveribm // Jun 15, 2007, 12:24am
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It's contagious Brian I had my first-ever BSOD on Vista yesterday. That's not supposed to happen :)
Peter |
Post by camelot // Jun 15, 2007, 8:40am
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It's contagious Brian I had my first-ever BSOD on Vista yesterday. That's not supposed to happen :)
Peter
Hi Peter,
Oh dear, sorry to hear that. Was that whilst using trueSpace?
Brian |
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