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poly modeling
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Post by AlexHead // Feb 11, 2006, 11:10am
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AlexHead
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Hi,
is it possable to change the object axis for sub components in an object? For instance, if i have a subdivided cube, perhaps divided into 4 segments per side, and want to move the top row of verts along the x axis i have problems depending on what coordinate system i am in.
in world axis the verts all respond in a similar way , no problem.
in object axis the interior verts move in a similar way, but the two end points move along two diffrent planes. It appears that the verts are associated with diffrent object coordinates systems. Do the sub-object sides have diffrent object coordinate systems?
I would like to use the object coord system as in some instances the object will not be rotated such that the world axis will have a lot of meaning.
Thanks
Alex |
Post by frank // Feb 12, 2006, 12:52pm
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frank
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The way the verts move as you are describing may have something to do with the surface normal of the face they are connected to.
The way I have gotten used to modeling is to have a few views open. If you want to precisely move something, say, along the x-axis you should use an ortho (no perspective) side view and disable movement along the y and z axes. (NOTE: Be sure you select the vertex move tool BEFORE disabling axis movement.) Then you can use a regular left-click drag (The problem you describe - I get it sometimes when doing a right-click drag, which usually moves along the surface normal.)
Basically, I would not move things around in perspective view. You may move some vertices around and they look fine - until you rotate around the object and see they are in fact out of whack.
I hope I've helped at least a little. :) Please let me know if you need clarification.
Also - another little tidbit: I still do most modeling in trueSpace 6.6 (as I can't quite get trueSpace 7 customized to my liking at the moment) and I use a LOT of hotkeys. They help me to model very quickly with as little clicking of icons as possible.
This may be too-much-information but I thought I'd share the main ones I use for modeling if you're interested.
Space Object Tool; right click for object info
Q Eye Move
W Eye Rotate
E Eye Zoom
A Object Move
S Object Rotate
D Object Scale
Z Point Move
X Point Rotate
C Point Scale
R Point Edit: Edges
F Point Edit: Faces
V Point Edit: Vertices
Ctrl E Add Edges
Shift Q Quad Divide
1 Use Object coordinate system
3 Use Screen coordinate system
2 Use World coordinate system
Just looking at the list may not make much sense, but where they all fit together on the keyboard is very intuitive to me. |
Post by W!ZARD // Feb 13, 2006, 3:33am
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W!ZARD
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I still do most modeling in trueSpace 6.6 (as I can't quite get trueSpace 7 customized to my liking at the moment) and I use a LOT of hotkeys. They help me to model very quickly with as little clicking of icons as possible.
This may be too-much-information but I thought I'd share the main ones I use for modeling if you're interested.
Space Object Tool; right click for object info
Q Eye Move
W Eye Rotate
E Eye Zoom
A Object Move
S Object Rotate
D Object Scale
Z Point Move
X Point Rotate
C Point Scale
R Point Edit: Edges
F Point Edit: Faces
V Point Edit: Vertices
Ctrl E Add Edges
Shift Q Quad Divide
1 Use Object coordinate system
3 Use Screen coordinate system
2 Use World coordinate system
Just looking at the list may not make much sense, but where they all fit together on the keyboard is very intuitive to me.
I can't recommend this idea highly enough! Frank is right (although my Hotkey set-up is diferent to his in detail it's the same in principle). Any effort put into understanding this approach will be rewarding - I can't imagine trying to model without hotkeys! |
Post by Délé // Feb 13, 2006, 5:03am
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Délé
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I used my nostromo speedpad for hotkeys a while back. I kind of forgot about that. I think it worked good from what I remember. I tested it with TS7 a little and it seems to work. I think I may spend some time setting it up again.
It's really nice actually. There are over 100 programmable keys and it fits nicely in your left hand. Less cumbersome then a keyboard. :)
Here's a link:
Nostromo Speedpad N52 (http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=&Section_Id=2071&pcount=&Product_Id=157024) |
Post by jamesmc // Feb 13, 2006, 7:17am
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jamesmc
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Ahhh...hot keys. :)
No wonder my time with tS has been challenging. :)
I have what my friend calls a "3 mouse hand." I can put 3 mouse (mice?) under my palm and you can't see them. So I tend to klutz the keyboard quite often.
heh. Couldn't figure out why it would automatically go into those modes sometimes. Now I know to keep my finJers off the keyboard. :D |
Post by Alien // Feb 14, 2006, 3:38am
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Alien
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I have what my friend calls a "3 mouse hand." I can put 3 mouse (mice?) under my palm and you can't see them. So I tend to klutz the keyboard quite often.
Either you have huge hands, or have a collection of those really small laptop mice. :) |
Post by ADL7 // Feb 14, 2006, 4:37pm
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ADL7
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I used my nostromo speedpad for hotkeys a while back.
It's really nice actually. There are over 100 programmable keys and it fits nicely in your left hand. Less cumbersome then a keyboard. :)
Thats what I use. :) Its far better than the keyboard! |
Post by AlexHead // Feb 17, 2006, 10:32am
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AlexHead
Total Posts: 13
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Thanks for the help.
I know exactly what you are talking about using the ortho views. The hot keys will be very useful.
thanks again
Alex |
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