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rendering hundreds or thousands of real time frames
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rendering hundreds or thousands of real time frames // Archive: Tech Forum
Post by jhowell // Apr 27, 2008, 6:51pm
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Hi all, I noticed on different posts some problems with real time rendering a large amount of frames. I had the problem several months ago and now as I have mentioned in different posts Iam doing one thousand to ten thousand framed real time renders with no problems. Here is what I have learned ...
1. I increased the memory on my laptop to the max 3 gig. Of course we all know how important mem is but going to that 3 gig just is like night and day difference.
2. I always turn off the bridge before I do a big render. Better yet, after rebooting your computer and starting Truespace dont do anything but turn off your bridge then jump in and render to file your scene. Dont load any other objects or anything. Just open scene you are going to render to file.
3. Also, before I do a huge real time render I reboot my computer and have no other programs running and so important to immediately open Truespace and turn off bridge then load the scene you are going to render.
4. This is huge. Go to the windows start button. Then go to RUN. Then type in msconfig. Then when in msconfig go to START and uncheck all the auto start up programs. Trust me, most you do not need and all auto starts take up lots of ram. If you find there is one thing you did need then go back in and turn that back on. You will find your computer will work much much better. I have been doing that for years now. With much better performance. While you are in msconfig you can also click on SERVICES. Then click HIDE ALL MICROSOFT SERVICES. Now you will see non essentional SERVICES that are running on your computer. You can turn off not needed services if you like. You are safe because you TEMPORARILY hid from view the microsoft services, which many of those you need. Now you will see other services that were added to your computer after Windows xp or vista was first installed. So after getting rid of most your autostarts and some of your unneeded services reboot your computer. Will be much faster... and real time render much better in Truespace. If you got your computer new with preloaded software it will be loaded to the max with not needed autostarts and not needed background SERVICES running. Slowing computer down and robbing memory and resources like you would not believe.
5. Download the free shareware program http://www.neuber.com/taskmanager/index.html .I have used security task manager for many years. Finds all adware and viruses and lets you put them in quarantine in less than a couple minutes. I have found instantly viruses and adware that other programs could not find. Usually in less than 30 seconds. Then I put them in quarantine and if I find I should not of quarantined it then I can go unquarantine. We all are getting adware and viruses all the time. That robs our memory bigtime! Security task manager is unbelievable. NORTON ANTIVIRUS and all those anti virus anti adware programs are huge huge memory and resource hogs. Just use security task manager. Takes almost no memory to run it.
6. Finally render to file your huge scenes in blocks. I just did another 10,000 frames. One thousand frames at a time. Went very fast and worked perfect. My goal is to eventually do a real time render to file 25,000 frames on a 3 gig laptop... with super sampling on (and maybe 2x anti aliasing..even though super sampling really sharpens up everything for me without using antialiasing) for a super sharp scene. Wow!.
7. So to summarize. A gig or two extra ram. Use msconfig to get rid (REALLY TURNS OFF WHICH YOU CAN TURN BACK ON) of most all if not all your autostarts and a bunch of your non essential services (for instance, adobe reader and many programs put a service in that you do not need. Abobe reader runs fine without its SERVICE always running ALL THE TIME in the background, many programs run services in the background which are not needed to run their programs ... TURN THEM OFF in your msconfig ... you can always turn back on if needed). Use security task manager to get rid of all viruses and adware instantly. Put them in quarantine. Reboot computer before you open Truespace to render to file your lots of frames. Dont load or do anything else before you do your render to file except turn off bridge. All of this should work like a charm.
p.s. if you are still having problems HOLD DOWN THE CNTRL KEY WHILE STARTING TRUESPACE. CLICK ON OPENGL. Try running and rendering in OPENGL to render to file. Thats worked for me several times. OPENGL sometimes uses much less ram for what you are rendering to file. Also, before you open the render to file dialog box click once with your mouse in your scene area. I dont know why but that many times avoids getting the can not render to file message.
Hope that helps!
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Post by W!ZARD // Apr 27, 2008, 11:49pm
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before you open the render to file dialog box click once with your mouse in your scene area. I dont know why but that many times avoids getting the can not render to file message.
Hope that helps!
Sounds like good advice to me but as far as this last bit goes - you have to activate the window you want to Render To File from, that window must be selected. With tS it's common to have a whole range of different windows open so you must tell the program which window to render from.
If you are not careful you can click render to file with the Anim Editor or Link Editor windows active instead of the 3d view you want - and obviously that won't work!
Always select the window you want to render from before activating 'Render To File' in Workspace.
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Post by Jack Edwards // Apr 28, 2008, 12:19am
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With Truespace 8.0 and 64-bit hopefully memory issues will be a thing of the past. Gotta say that I'm glad I went for 64-bit Vista and the upgrade to 6 Gig of Ram didn't hurt either. ;)
BTW, it's good advice for anyone running Vista to upgrade to at least 3 Gig of Ram. Vista uses up ~2Gig by itself, so anything less and you are swapping out to the harddrive ALL the time. With Vista's slower file system that = VERY slow performance. I can attest personally since going from 2 Gig to 6 Gig, I've noticed a huge performance difference and Vista's been working great for me. |
Post by parva // Apr 28, 2008, 1:14am
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3. Also, before I do a huge real time render I reboot my computer and have no other programs running and so important to immediately open Truespace and turn off bridge then load the scene you are going to render.
The output picture size for "Render to Texture" is only connected
to the power of your GPU (espacially the memory I guess).
It depends on the amount of lights, shadowsize and effects in scene (bloom).
Supersampling does also increase that much there it's a kind of doubling the framesize.
True is that after a large render to texture you should close trueSpace,
there I spotted as well that closing tS clears the video framebuffer
and after opening tS as well you can render again another large picture.
Unfortunatly very large renders aren't possible there it takes the frame at once.
I already posted a link to a technique in the betaforum which would make this possible
but that needs developer work - here the link (http://www.mvps.org/directx/articles/tilerender/index.htm) |
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