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Truespace runs on my Mac Virtually:D
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Truespace runs on my Mac Virtually:D // Archive: Tech Forum
Post by mykyl1966 // Jan 30, 2008, 7:01am
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I tested Truespace on my mac again but this time using the beta Directx built into VMWare Fusion.
It ran perfectly well apart from texture and lighting issues but if they keep improving it I don't think its unreasonable to expect Truespace to run perfectly in the near future.
By the way VMware runs better from a virtual hard drive rather than pointing to a bootcamp partition. MUCH faster in fact.
You might also note I had Mail, iChat, Messenger as well as Fusion with Truespace inside.
Cheers
Mike R |
Post by 3dfrog // Jan 30, 2008, 7:38am
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Sweet. This could bring in a whole lot of new people. I think mac users are generally into innovative products and ts is certainly one. I have an old emac, fun to mess with. Would love an intel mac though. |
Post by rjeff // Jan 30, 2008, 8:01am
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Not sure if I need to give you congrats for getting it to run, or my sympathy for using a mac.. :) |
Post by mykyl1966 // Jan 30, 2008, 8:24am
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I have been over on the pc side including managing helpdesks for different applications and written my own pc applications over the last 20 years or so.
For me I can honestly say I prefer the mac after only a very short time. (About 3 or 4 months). It aint perfect at all but Its perfect for my needs and my pc's are all retired to the back room.
All of my other 3d apps are available for the Mac so I don't lose anything.
I bought my dad an iMac as well.
I will NEVER join the my hunk of metal and plastic is better than your brigade though regardless of preference.
I say pick what you like and allow others to choose their path. No need for tea and sympathy lol. :D I still like windows and will never state otherwise.
Im just glad that I wont lose my TS.
Cheers
Mike R |
Post by frootee // Jan 30, 2008, 8:38am
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That's really cool that you can run truespace on your Mac using VMWare. Very Nice! I don't own a Mac but I do agree with mykyl and frog here. Each to his own, and the more the merrier!
How does it work? Did you just install VMWare and that allows you to install and run Windows based applications? If it's that easy, then heck yeah, hopefully we can get Mac users to join the truespace group. :)
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Post by rjeff // Jan 30, 2008, 4:12pm
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I was just poking fun at ya there... Kinda like how fans of sports teams do each other... but I am very anti mac..but hey to each their own..as you say! |
Post by mykyl1966 // Jan 31, 2008, 1:04am
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Don't worry. I did kind of guess that. :)
One of my issues is that I don't want to come across as an overbearing mac convert like some I have met online elsewhere. Almost to the point of paranoia. :)
If it helps grab new TS users that in the past would not have looked at TS because of the Windows only tag then that can only be a good thing.
Cheers
Mike R |
Post by Ambrose // Jan 31, 2008, 3:39am
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I allways liked the way Apple goes but have allways run pc's myself and never considered getting a Mc, mac I mean ;)
Reasently bought new pc though, 2-3 months ago, and really checked it all out, didn't know about the new Mac then and needed new pc within 2 weeks to pay bills so went for what I new and are used to.
Still next one might as well be...
What did you say about running as a virtual disk instead of...
My users run VmWare and allways complaints, that's why I'm intrested...
Good work!
SeYa/Ambrose... |
Post by mykyl1966 // Jan 31, 2008, 4:46am
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OS X has the ability to partition your hard drive so that you can in effect install Windows natively. You use a tool called bootcamp to set this up.
What this means is that to get to windows I have to reboot my mac and choose the Windows partition if I want to run my Windows applications and vice versa.
VMWare Fusion is an OS X application that you can purchase and install on the Mac side. It can 'bootup' the above partition or you can install windows into a virtual machine.
The disadvantage to using the true windows partition is that it runs fairly slow. (I don't mean unusably slow but it is noticable.)
The fastest way that I found is to forget creating a bootcamp partition for windows.
Instead install VMware Fusion in OS X.
Then when you first run it tell it to create a NEW virtual Machine.
It will open a window and ask for the windows CD that you own (or linux or any other numerous operating systems.) and will install it. (This Virtual disk is a single file stored on your real hard drive. It can be anything up to 50gb in size if you want or need it to be. Mine is 32gb and formatted as NTFS. I can read and write to both the windows and Mac sides with no issues. (OS X cant natively write to an NTFS formatted drive but this problem is gone with VMware running.)).
Just wait for the install to finish then close down Windows. You can then tell Fusion how much ram you want to assign to the virtual machine and other things like Accelerate 3d settings that will allow directx to run. I have 2gb ram at the moment so I assigned 1gb to the virtual machine.
When you next bootup windows you will notice that it takes seconds to boot. It really is very fast, much faster than the above mentioned bootcamp partition.
There are other features like Unity mode where I can run truespace as if it was an OS X application etc.
I I have no idea if that makes it any clearer. Im kind of drugged up at the moment on my meds. :)
Cheers
Mike R |
Post by Ambrose // Jan 31, 2008, 6:03am
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Thanks for explaining even if it would not suite us I guess.
If I understand correctly my guess to why it goes faster is because it communicates with your real network hard drive or something instead of also setting these up in the VmWare image therefor doing the job 2 or so.
This is hard to explain even in no mode and I don't have the knolwedge here only what other tell me, thing is to give image much ram and skip drivers...
or something
you done more than well, you deserve a drink...
SeYa/Ambrose... |
Post by mlbnamuh // Feb 5, 2008, 8:31am
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Hi, I have tried running TS 7.51 on my Macbook Pro in a WinXP sp2 virtual machine with the experimental 3D acceleration enabled. While it does run the mouse behaves completely chaotically and can't be controlled. Did you encounter any such problems and if so how did you fix them? Also I can confirm that TS 7.51 runs fine on XP when Boot Camp is used and the MacB is booted natively into XP. |
Post by SiW // Mar 11, 2008, 9:38pm
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I saw exactly the same thing - it apparently runs okay but the mouse movement is completely off. Any ideas? |
Post by mykyl1966 // Mar 12, 2008, 7:02am
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Well I just updated to the latest version of VMware Fusion and now Truespace doesn't work at all for me.
Still trying to work out whats wrong.
Mike R |
Post by SiW // Mar 12, 2008, 10:42am
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Ah, a semi-solution to the mouse issue is to set trueSpace to tablet compatibility mode. This does mean you have to do a lot more mouse lifting as there's no wraparound when the pointer reaches the edge of the screen, but at least it's usable now.
Mike, what version is the latest? Did a new one come out last night or something, because that's the last time I tested :D |
Post by mykyl1966 // Mar 13, 2008, 2:59am
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Im not sure when it came out. Its version 1.1.1. The 3d side of things (which is supposed to be improved) does not work. Truespace complains just trying to open the viewport.
Not fun.
Mike R |
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