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Vray package cannot be loaded error!
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Vray package cannot be loaded error! // Archive: Tech Forum
Post by e-graffiti // Apr 14, 2006, 2:02am
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I just downloaded tS7.1, uninstalled tS7.0 then installed ts7.1. I can select Vray as a render option but get the error "Vray package cannot be loaded"? I did not see a new Vray package on the download sight. Any ideas on how to fix? :confused: |
Post by Bobbins // Apr 14, 2006, 2:28am
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I just downloaded tS7.1, uninstalled tS7.0 then installed ts7.1. I can select Vray as a render option but get the error "Vray package cannot be loaded"? I did not see a new Vray package on the download sight. Any ideas on how to fix? :confused:
Did you reboot after installing VRay? The VRay installation should ask you to do so.
Also, if upgrading from 7.0, I would recommend:
- uninstall VRay
- uninstall tS 7.0
- delete trueSpace directory
- reboot
- install 7.1
- install VRay
- reboot |
Post by e-graffiti // Apr 14, 2006, 2:45am
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In my download site I did not see a "new" separate Vray download so I assumed that it was integrated with my ts7_1 install. There were 4 files:
PDF Manual
trueplay
ts7.1 install
ts7.1 New in ts7.1 PDF
And that was it! I had a link from 2005 for the "old" Vray but no new link. I have contacted customer service and I expect them to add it to my download area if it is a separate install. I had a problem in the past with my download area not having ts7.0 when ts7.0 was first released so I would not be surprised if some backend confusion is the problem (at least that is what I hope :) ) |
Post by splinters // Apr 14, 2006, 5:06am
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In my download site I did not see a "new" separate Vray download so I assumed that it was integrated with my ts7_1 install.
C,mon now e-graffiti, if Vray was integrated into 7.1 then everyone would have it for free with 7.1.
Vray is an optional 'add-on' render engine which, as far as I am aware, was meant to be released at the same time as 7.1 but it is not part of that install.
As it is much, much more advanced than the Vray 0.9 release you currently have I can only imagine it is imminent pending some final last minute tweaks to make it even better.
If you have seen screen shots of it here then you will be aware of how much better it will be than the 'vanilla' version some of us had at TS7 release.
It will be worth the 'extra' wait....:) |
Post by optimiztic // Apr 14, 2006, 6:17am
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I downloaded VRay and it works great! It is a separate download, and it should be on your download list if you purchased it. I would call the Caligari office and have them add it. Note that the VRay manual has been seriously expanded.
My tS7.1 install is acting poorly. For example, it hangs my computer if I click on 'Help' and 'Manual,' even though the new manual is installed. It's probably because I was in too much of a hurry and didn't uninstall tS7.0. I will do that today and see if it's still doing strange things.
Don |
Post by optimiztic // Apr 14, 2006, 6:19am
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Sorry, I meant to say VRay 1.0 that is offered with tS7.1. (Just so you know I'm not reloading the old one.)
Don |
Post by e-graffiti // Apr 14, 2006, 6:26am
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Splinters you are were not being helpful :mad: . I am already familar with Vray and have been for sometime. When I installed ts7.0 I did not have to install/reinstall Vray 0.9. I thought because Caligari had a package that contained Vray if you purchased it and one that did not contain Vray if you did not purchase it. In hind site perhaps because I had it installed as part of previous install while I was a proteam member. But I did get my updated version of Vray. I was expecting ts7.1 and vray to be together but it was under a different ID and dated 11/05 based on the order ID and not the product release date! |
Post by splinters // Apr 14, 2006, 6:28am
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There is a delay in 7.1 when you click on a link that needs to open a browser window (manual, caligari site, updates etc.) Takes about 30 seconds to open but should not crash TS...:) |
Post by splinters // Apr 14, 2006, 6:31am
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Splinters you are were not being helpful :mad: . I am already familar with Vray and have been for sometime. When I installed ts7.0 I did not have to install/reinstall Vray 0.9. I thought because Caligari had a package that contained Vray if you purchased it and one that did not contain Vray if you did not purchase it. In hind site perhaps because I had it installed as part of previous install while I was a proteam member. But I did get my updated version of Vray. I was expecting ts7.1 and vray to be together but it was under a different ID and dated 11/05 based on the order ID and not the product release date!
Sorry mate, you take me too seriously e-graffiti (I have a mischevious streak running through me a mile wide) but it was worth pointing out before other 'less experienced' users cried "where is my Vray with 7.1....;)
Really though, it is best to install any new Vray after a fresh install of TS. We learnt to do this on the Beta team quite some time ago...solved a lot of problems that way... |
Post by optimiztic // Apr 14, 2006, 6:35am
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It is most likely that I need to do a fresh install after deleting the tS7 directory. However, I can't imagine why it would take 30 seconds to call an .html file (and my install definitely hangs the program).
By the way, I modified the .html manual starter file to list all the tS7 manuals and reference files, and under tS7.0 they all showed up as links. I'm not at my tS7 machine right now, but if I get it working with tS7.1 later this eveneing I'll post the modified .html file for everyone. (or you can add links to whatever you want, it's really easy to add lines to the .html file).
Don |
Post by splinters // Apr 14, 2006, 6:39am
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I can't imagine why it would take 30 seconds to call an .html file (and my install definitely hangs the program).
Don
Me neither, but it does....:(
I for one would appreciate a way of opening the manual, not a browser window asking me if I want to view it...thanks optimiztic; I look forward to it. |
Post by optimiztic // Apr 14, 2006, 6:44am
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Is this new for 7.1? I don't recall any delay with 7.0... :(
Don |
Post by splinters // Apr 14, 2006, 6:46am
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It has been a while now...but from what I can remember in 7.0 the links to Caligari and updates etc. did not work at all. However, the manual opened pretty quick.....:confused:
Not sure why the manual link opens up a browser window rather than the PDF file.....:( |
Post by TomG // Apr 14, 2006, 6:51am
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What has happened is that the product "V-Ray" for download is now 1.0. It would be confusing, and not useful, to have V-Ray 0.9 and V-Ray 1.0 as separate downloads.
So for all V-Ray users, download the install for V-Ray that you see in your download area again and run it. This gets you V-Ray 1.0. All new users too simply download the V-Ray from their download area, and they get 1.0 naturally too.
HTH!
Tom |
Post by optimiztic // Apr 14, 2006, 6:51am
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Actually, since they've used the .html file, you can substitute any kind of links you want. I have links to the AG, DG, VRay Guide, and some of the tS developer's reference files (which may be .xml files; I'll look when I get home). |
Post by JPSofCA // Apr 14, 2006, 7:03am
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I uninstalled trueSpace 7.0 and noticed that "all of the components" had not been uninstalled - but I left the folder there assuming what was necessary was done.
I don't want to get into all this right now, as I've got taxes to do, but I do want to add this:
With the transition to the new "core" trueSpace 7 should have been kept seperate from 6.6. If model view is to be done away with, why in [the diety you worship]'s name are programmer's time and effort being consumed on creating a bridge to connect the two? I'm pretty sure I know the reasons behind it, but what a mess. I'm betting the underlying code is a nightmare to keep up with.
Personally, I would have paid $100 for a trueSpace 6.7 worked on by a coder or two...and a couple years down the road would have been very interested in Rosetta 1 as a whole new product that had been put together by the rest of the team. "Classic" trueSpace was really getting better and better. The new trueSpace feels like "Well, although tS has evolved by leaps and bounds, we're bored with it and want to go a new route. In the meantime, we'll link the two together to sell as a product as a whole, because Rosetta will take quite some time to build all the tools that would be required to compete with other products" etc., etc..
If I'm being too harsh, then I'm sorry. As I've only got as far as the "Help" menu before I started ranting. Perhaps it's wonderful and I just don't know yet. Like I say, after installation, the "Help" menu was the first place I went. Then checked out the other menu sub-choices, and then hit the ceiling over it.
Actually, I first launched the readme that told me about the new suppression of remote shared space user ability to perform actions on your computer. You know, what would be cool is if design and security issues were refined before implementation and deployment. Fortunately I haven't used shared space, nor do I have any desire to. But with my luck I'm probably made vulnerable to malicious remote actions whether I use it or not.
Go ahead and delete this post - I almost don't want to look back to see it ever existed - but I can't help but voice my concerns.
My apologies for disregarding the "if you haven't anything nice to say, don't say anything at all" thing.
Still love the concept though. |
Post by splinters // Apr 14, 2006, 7:10am
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I don't think your comments are derogatory about TS at all-just honest.
However, there is a good reason for the bridge. It is a link between the two 'core' programs allowing new users a safety area they can retreat to if player is a bit too bewildering. However, the option is there to use both. Best of both worlds really.
Give TS7 some time-it really grows on you. When I first used 'Rosetta' as it was back in early beta's. I really disliked it as I had spent a lot of time learning TS6.6.
Now I cannot use TS6.6 fluidly even though I have a customised version of the full layout at my disposal.
Of course I am biased and unashamedly so, but those who have used TS7 for a while seem to agree it is a great improvement and 7.1 only adds to the fun.
As for installing 7.1. I have always removed all traces of each TS7 (including the registry) after backing up the TS folder to another drive. I have had absolutely no problems running it. |
Post by optimiztic // Apr 14, 2006, 7:32am
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However, there is a good reason for the bridge. It is a link between the two 'core' programs allowing new users a safety area they can retreat to if player is a bit too bewildering. However, the option is there to use both. Best of both worlds really.
I've noticed that I don't feel so much 'adrift' in trying to use the hybrid architecture if I have Player and Model windows up at the same time, using the 'Floating' layout. Even if one window is small, it helps to integrate the environment in my head.
I'm still stunned by the potential power of Rosetta, and I'm not at all effective in using it. I would like more detailed information on using the LE (e.g., LE for dummies), and I'm hoping that 7.5 integrates a lot more of the modeling tools into Player.
While my modeling skills don't match up to what appears in this forum, my own meager experiments show that VRay kicks *ss in rendering. I have a Ph.D. in physics, and to think that realistic internal and external light reflections from a wine glass can be derived from a simple polygon mesh is totally mind boggling.
Don |
Post by splinters // Apr 14, 2006, 7:35am
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I'm hoping that 7.5 integrates a lot more of the modeling tools into Player.
Don
Apparently it will. Quite a few were brought over for 7.1 and 7.5 promises to be a much more substantial upgrade...:) |
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