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New Objects ! Alpha World must enlarge it object path ! // Communityfacter facter@awsupportJul 24, 2001, 2:57pm
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Of course I do, I am stating that I dont *need* to nor am under any
obligation to do so ..no hypocrasy there. F. [View Quote] facter facter@awsupportJul 24, 2001, 2:59pm
tony mJul 24, 2001, 3:43pm
thanks
great website by the way, Facter =) [View Quote] >Hey Tony >I uploaded it. Try http://sw_city3.tripod.com/awweb.jpg >-- >- Syntax - >www.swcity.net [View Quote] - Tony M. tony mJul 24, 2001, 3:51pm
iceyJul 24, 2001, 4:03pm
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also?
icey:) [View Quote] > Facter, "punctuation" is also correct. Look before you leap ;) > [View Quote] facter facter@awsupportJul 24, 2001, 6:42pm
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I know, he will never admit I won this one, but we all know anyways =)))
hehe F. > [View Quote] kahJul 24, 2001, 7:15pm
yeah, well next time just don't reply, cuzz then the argument goes on
forever... KAH DISCLAIMER: KAH is not trying to critize anyone, or anything in this post. [View Quote] sw comitJul 24, 2001, 8:06pm
Jeeze why is this topic suddenly getting so much attention? I been
complaining about Alphaworld's crappy OP for years now - you can only manipulate an object so much. And Nornny, I can think of tons of objects that AW needs and would fit in. Probably one of my biggest suggestions is a simple string object. There is no string, cable or wire. Closest thing is a pole or putting objects 99% underground. Don't see many strings that was as thick as my body, like a pole =P wingJul 24, 2001, 10:29pm
Eep, table abuse is the only way to get it to look right and be modular at the same time. At one point the layout for my website
featured 150 different table cells, almost every one of them containing a graphic (Was a BITCH for dialup, hence why I lost it) Sure, the tables can be a problem with Netscape since not all (any?) versions support invisible table borders, but it looks professional to 99% of the PC population (Mindless M$-tards) About modularity and why it's neccessary... Would you rather A) Edit ALL your pages for a link, particulrly if it's graphical and the site is graphics intensive or B) Delete the old link on the include and install the new one I wouldn't go throwing your website out as an example of a fine HTML, though it takes seconds to load on dialup, it simply DOESN'T sell (Which is not your goal by the way. The main purpose of my website is to sell my skills to an employer, the main purpose of Fac's site is to sell AW.) [View Quote] facterJul 25, 2001, 12:24am
> yeah, well next time just don't reply, cuzz then the argument goes on
> forever... But it was amusing - hay, I might be tech support and I might work here, but those who know me know my sense of humour is pretty bloody vast =) I'm allowed to let go and look at things on the lighter side sometimes, am I not? hahaha =) F. > KAH > > DISCLAIMER: KAH is not trying to critize anyone, or anything in this post. > [View Quote] facterJul 25, 2001, 12:25am
> I wouldn't go throwing your website out as an example of a fine HTML,
though it takes seconds to load on dialup, it simply DOESN'T > sell (Which is not your goal by the way. The main purpose of my website is to sell my skills to an employer, the main purpose of > Fac's site is to sell AW.) Bingo =) F. > [View Quote] john viperJul 25, 2001, 12:58am
I know this works on 4.0 and up:
<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> ... </table> If you want good-looking borders (instead of those awful 3D things): <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td bgcolor="#000000"> <table cellspacing="1" cellpadding="1"> <tr> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF">Ima Tablecell</td> </tr> </table? </td></tr></table> Makes a nice, one-pixel thick border around all the text, and works in at least NS4, IE4, and probably most other browsers. Only M$ product that I truly believe is actually worth using is IE simply because of what it allows you to be able to do, and you can do it much more easily. Plus, most of its features and how they are coded makes sense. Netscape really needs to catch up. NS6 came close, but again, no cigar... -John "wing" <bathgate at prodigy.net> wrote in news:3b5e12df at server1.Activeworlds.com: > Sure, the tables can be a > problem with Netscape since not all (any?) versions support invisible > table borders -- _____________________________________________ Jeff Tickle (John Viper, #296714) jviper at jtsoft.net http://www.jtsoft.net syntaxJul 25, 2001, 1:34am
goober kingJul 25, 2001, 1:50am
Don't make me have to smack both of you... IE is atrocious because it breeds poor web
design skills and has no concept of standards whatsoever, whereas Netscape actually *forces* you to think about what you're doing and to do it right the first time. Once they get all the minor bugs out of NS6, Netscape will proceed to flatten IEvil and web developers will scream bloody murder once IE6 comes out, I guarantee you that. [View Quote] -- Goober King And people wonder why most websites suck :P rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu eepJul 25, 2001, 2:40am
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> your hypocracy in dealing with such a thread. You claim you don't want
> personal insults and the like yet you've done it all throughout this thread. > Look into the mirror, sport. Have a nice day. Drive through... > > I dont see any personal insults ? If you have to ask you obviously have no clue...as usual. > What, calling your website bad is an insult? Saying you are making yourself > look like a fool is an insult? No, not insults, merely observations of > truth. > > If you cant handle what you dish out in a form a hundred times milder, then > dont post in here Eep, simple as that. Exactly. That's all my "insults" towards you and others are too, sport: the truth. However, the truth is relative, of course, so just because YOU may think something is the truth, I may not. In short, you're a hypocrite. > hahaha...as I said, you've amused me and everyone else today, thankyou =) <yawn> Keep laughin' at yourself... eepJul 25, 2001, 2:41am
eepJul 25, 2001, 2:43am
eepJul 25, 2001, 2:48am
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> Eep, table abuse is the only way to get it to look right and be modular at the same time. At one point the layout for my website
> featured 150 different table cells, almost every one of them containing a graphic (Was a BITCH for dialup, hence why I lost it) > Sure, the tables can be a problem with Netscape since not all (any?) versions support invisible table borders, but it looks > professional to 99% of the PC population (Mindless M$-tards) A page that abuses tables is one that takes forever to load in Netscape. I use Netscape so I can tell when a page abuses tables. <shrug> > About modularity and why it's neccessary... Would you rather A) Edit ALL your pages for a link, particulrly if it's graphical and > the site is graphics intensive or B) Delete the old link on the include and install the new one Uh, when did we start talking about modularity? I never mentioned anything against it. > I wouldn't go throwing your website out as an example of a fine HTML, though it takes seconds to load on dialup, it simply DOESN'T > sell (Which is not your goal by the way. The main purpose of my website is to sell my skills to an employer, the main purpose of > Fac's site is to sell AW.) Uh, my site "sells" just fine, thank you. My RW site averages ~20 hits/day (at least on the intro page anyway), which isn't bad for a fairly obscure 3D scripting language for a hole-in-the-wall program like AW... birdmikeJul 25, 2001, 3:05am
Constantly harassing Facter will only result in him getting sick of the
abuse and not reading the newsgroups. Then AWCI will have no one reading the newsgroups. Do you want that, to go completely ignored? At least with Facter reading the newsgroups we have someone to talk with Rick and JP about what we say. Remember, Facter isn't the one you should be mad at, it's Rick and JP. Lay off Facter. [View Quote] eepJul 25, 2001, 5:59am
Hardly, sport; people go there to learn about RWX.
Learn how to quote only what you're replying to, newbie. [View Quote] > 20 hits? yeah they go there and laugh then leave > [View Quote] eepJul 25, 2001, 5:59am
You obviously failed to read what I wrote more carefully. I suggest you do so before replying again.
[View Quote] > Constantly harassing Facter will only result in him getting sick of the > abuse and not reading the newsgroups. Then AWCI will have no one reading > the newsgroups. Do you want that, to go completely ignored? At least with > Facter reading the newsgroups we have someone to talk with Rick and JP about > what we say. Remember, Facter isn't the one you should be mad at, it's Rick > and JP. > > Lay off Facter. > [View Quote] the derekJul 25, 2001, 6:30am
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<html> as amusing as this is, i really cant belive you, of all people are arguing with eep. face it its hopeless with him [View Quote] the derekJul 25, 2001, 6:35am
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<html> eep... youre just being a bonehead here... since when do people ONLY do what they are SUPPOSED to do? im not SUPPOSED to write here and neither are you, yet we both do... [View Quote] john viperJul 25, 2001, 8:27am
I must admit that IE is a bit TOO lenient sometimes, but most of the time,
it really does make life easier... (of course, it doesn't make a difference since we have to develop to the lowest common denominator anyways.) I haven't had a chance to see IE6, although I hear it is absolutely atrocious. The deal is that if Netscape can get their act together and make a product better than IE, I will use it. Right now, this is not the case. -John "goober king" <rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu> wrote in news:3B5E418B.D6C6CE7F at acsu.buffalo.edu: > Don't make me have to smack both of you... IE is atrocious because it > breeds poor web design skills and has no concept of standards > whatsoever, whereas Netscape actually *forces* you to think about what > you're doing and to do it right the first time. Once they get all the > minor bugs out of NS6, Netscape will proceed to flatten IEvil and web > developers will scream bloody murder once IE6 comes out, I guarantee > you that. <snip> -- _____________________________________________ Jeff Tickle (John Viper, #296714) jviper at jtsoft.net http://www.jtsoft.net kahJul 25, 2001, 10:48am
OMG! he's been infected with MSebola!!!!!!!! Netscape is like... uh... a
billion times better than IE? KAH [View Quote] kahJul 25, 2001, 10:50am
yes, 20 hits wouldn't surprise me at all, those pages are VERY popular...
and VERY usefull... KAH iceyJul 25, 2001, 1:18pm
'Puncutation'
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