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Jul 21, 2001, 11:17pm

Don't you think that Alpha World must have more objects?
Let's ask AW to do it !

Jul 21, 2001, 11:45pm

typical newbie post...now lets watch the flames flood in...

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Jul 21, 2001, 11:48pm

Yeah, let's also ask Microsoft to make less buggy software.

It's probably not going to happen. And personally, I wouldn't WANT it to
happen. Two reasons:

1) What objects are they going to add? Alphaworld, believe it or not, does
come with some general theme, so they can't just add anything. Plus, like
any of the AWCers have ANY time to spend uploading objects and making
registries all day. It took a month of petitioning, I believe, to add Just
In's and TechnoZeus's Alphaworld objects (those were the different sized
walks, units, boards, new glass objects and such). And those were REALLY
exceptional yet basic objects that you would've never thought was only added
a year ago. :) Basically, it'd be tough to see them adding objects like
furniture, hot air balloons, and other multi polygonal stuff than they have
now. It's a very specific OP, just like all the other AWC worlds. However,
it DOES grow, you're just being spoiled. Every year or so, a whole set of
objects are introduced, just recently, the x object set for example. :)

2) Where's the challenge? Alphaworld's objects make it the epitamy of good
building skills. Without it, your houses and builds are junk. The objects
and restrictions they give you really teaches you how to manipulate what you
have and know. From it, you can create BEAUTIFUL things that can actually be
considered masterpieces. Head over to SW City or Horizon City or any large
town and you'll see that Alphaworld can be very rewarding. :)

Nornny

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Jul 22, 2001, 12:05am

Syntax, are you sure this isn't the same harry potter tourist that used to
hang around us?

SW chris

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Jul 22, 2001, 12:54am

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Where do we get the objects?

If they are fully custom made, I mean, NOT convertions and you can totally
verify them as custom and unique, I'll start accepting people to send
objects to me, and maybe get together a new bunch to put in.

The problem, is that there are so many copyright objects out there - but,
send and we shall see....why not?

I'm pretty busy until August the 1st, but send cutom SELF made ones and I'll
get a bunch together , then propose it to everyone...

F.

Jul 22, 2001, 6:00am

Yay for Facter!

If any of you are going to make objects, make a wk01.rwx that accepts the
create texture in reverse. Sometimes when you start twisting the wk01.rwx
object around, it doesn't properly align with the other textures on objects.
If your not sure what I mean, look at AW 2043.4S 3749E and see how the
wk01.rwx with create texture brick1 connects with the walk014.rwx. I know
it's kind of a specific request but I think it should be fixed. :-)
--
- Syntax -
www.swcity.net
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Jul 22, 2001, 6:34am

actually aw is finishing up another object set in AWBuild, but the debate still continues on how to use them

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Jul 22, 2001, 10:13am

Facter, please take over AWC! You do such a wonderfull job!!!

KAH

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Jul 22, 2001, 11:08am

I'm a not a tourist. My cit is 317067. You are correct. AW can be very good
to build. Another example: AWBRASIL (I'm one of the owners of this town) AW
29955s 75e :PPP
Bye,
harry
sw chris <chrisw10 at nckcn.com> escreveu nas notícias de
mensagem:3b5a34e3$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Syntax, are you sure this isn't the same harry potter tourist that used to
> hang around us?
>
> SW chris
>
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Jul 22, 2001, 12:07pm

TechnoZues and I offered our further services free of charge to continue
creating new objects and improve old objects for Alpha World. This was
after we together created some 150 new objects for Alpha, which largely were
applauded by all (about the only negatives were about the cross section
panels which some folks did not understand). I think I sent Rick (ENZO)
about 4 emails, all of them unanswered before I gave up.

Since then both TZ and myself applied for paid jobs as modellers for AW. I
didn't hear a word and neither did TZ.

Is there a change of mind?

Facter, email me if AWC is serious about adding/improving objects in Alpha
World.

Regards, Justin


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Jul 22, 2001, 2:00pm

I am not sure what you mean exactly, anyway changing the script of 'wk01h.rwx'
adding a tag 200 you can modify the texture as you please, like create texture
or picture www.myweb/mybricks.jpg
Have a look, is this what you want?
http://p_prova.tripod.com/textures/image2.jpg
http://p_prova.tripod.com/textures/image1.jpg
It seems that the object was made by TechnoZeus if you like I can give you the
modified script...
icey

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>
> If any of you are going to make objects, make a wk01.rwx that accepts the
> create texture in reverse. Sometimes when you start twisting the wk01.rwx
> object around, it doesn't properly align with the other textures on objects.
> If your not sure what I mean, look at AW 2043.4S 3749E and see how the
> wk01.rwx with create texture brick1 connects with the walk014.rwx. I know
> it's kind of a specific request but I think it should be fixed. :-)
> --
> - Syntax -
> www.swcity.net
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Jul 22, 2001, 3:10pm

I am not sure what you mean exactly, anyway changing the script 'wk01h.rwx'
adding a tag 200 you can modify the texture as you please, like create texture
or picture www.myweb/mybricks.jpg
Have a look, is this what you want?
http://p_prova.tripod.com/textures/page1.html
It seems that the object was made by TechnoZeus if you like I can give you the
modified script...
icey

>
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Jul 22, 2001, 6:55pm

> Facter, email me if AWC is serious about adding/improving objects in Alpha
> World.

Juston,

I am saying that if you send a bunch of objects to me that are fully
original, and people submit them to me and allow us to use them freely with
Activeworlds under a freeware/open source kind of provision, then I'll get a
collection together, and approach my superiors on the posibility of adding
some more objects sometime after August the 1st (when I'll be free to help
out on it).

Please be aware that this is not a given or a certainy, only that I will put
together a bunch of objects for a proposed update =)

F.

Jul 22, 2001, 6:56pm

> actually aw is finishing up another object set in AWBuild, but the debate
still continues on how to use them

Yes, but they wont be for Alphaworld, all those new building sets will be
for a new, dynamic world =)

F.

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Jul 22, 2001, 6:58pm

Tip: talk to your "superiors" (only by name, certainly not intellect), Rick and JP, FIRST so such a proposal is even POSSIBLE at this time. Don't get all OUR hopes up first until YOU talk to THEM first, dig?

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> I am saying that if you send a bunch of objects to me that are fully
> original, and people submit them to me and allow us to use them freely with
> Activeworlds under a freeware/open source kind of provision, then I'll get a
> collection together, and approach my superiors on the posibility of adding
> some more objects sometime after August the 1st (when I'll be free to help
> out on it).
>
> Please be aware that this is not a given or a certainy, only that I will put
> together a bunch of objects for a proposed update =)

Jul 22, 2001, 7:07pm

\> Tip: talk to your "superiors" (only by name, certainly not intellect),
Rick and JP, FIRST so such a proposal is even POSSIBLE at this time. Don't
get all OUR hopes up first until YOU talk to THEM first, dig?

Why? I'd rather have something together to show, than go "oh MAYBE I can do
this". Its easier to get something done if the groundwork is already laid
than to go in empty handed - and it is a totally "possible" thing, why
wouldnt it be?

Its called a proposal, which is usually how things work in a business
environment - which if you understood *how* one worked, you would know -
just a tip.

Facter.

>
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Jul 22, 2001, 9:10pm

Fac, I think it's great that you're making an effort to see if you can get some new objects added to Alphaworld. I hope no one will take what I'm about to say as throwing cold water on your offer.

While waiting to see what people submit to you, is there any chance that you, or someone else, could fix the encroachment problem for the following X objects that you kindly got put in for us, but which had to be removed later?

These x objects were removed - would be nice to see them "fixed" and put back in:

xaw22 xaw23 xaw24
(pp-size vertical solid picture panels)

xsign xsign1 xsign2

xaw26 through xaw36 (cloud/rain/lightning/puddle)


The ones below are capable of encroaching - need "fixing" before they get yanked out, too.

xsat (the jail cell)

xiggy4 (the large pyramid)

xaw8 xaw9
(oval shaped picture objects)

xaw2 xaw12
(large signs)

xwed1 (wedding pavilion obj)

Thanks for your interest in helping builders, Fac!

Lara

Jul 23, 2001, 12:27am

I'll see waht I can do - as I said, I myself cant do anything until after
August the 1st, but I can send this on to some of the modellers and see if
they can do anything in their spare time.

The one that got removed, is being put back this week as far as I know.

F.

> Fac, I think it's great that you're making an effort to see if you can get
some new objects added to Alphaworld. I hope no one will take what I'm
about to say as throwing cold water on your offer.
>
> While waiting to see what people submit to you, is there any chance that
you, or someone else, could fix the encroachment problem for the following X
objects that you kindly got put in for us, but which had to be removed
later?
>
> These x objects were removed - would be nice to see them "fixed" and put
back in:
>
> xaw22 xaw23 xaw24
> (pp-size vertical solid picture panels)
>
> xsign xsign1 xsign2
>
> xaw26 through xaw36 (cloud/rain/lightning/puddle)
>
>
> The ones below are capable of encroaching - need "fixing" before they get
yanked out, too.
>
> xsat (the jail cell)
>
> xiggy4 (the large pyramid)
>
> xaw8 xaw9
> (oval shaped picture objects)
>
> xaw2 xaw12
> (large signs)
>
> xwed1 (wedding pavilion obj)
>
> Thanks for your interest in helping builders, Fac!
>
> Lara

Jul 23, 2001, 12:29am

[View Quote] > \> Tip: talk to your "superiors" (only by name, certainly not intellect),
> Rick and JP, FIRST so such a proposal is even POSSIBLE at this time. Don't
> get all OUR hopes up first until YOU talk to THEM first, dig?
>
> Why? I'd rather have something together to show, than go "oh MAYBE I can do
> this". Its easier to get something done if the groundwork is already laid
> than to go in empty handed - and it is a totally "possible" thing, why
> wouldnt it be?

Because Rick and JP are funny that way.

> Its called a proposal, which is usually how things work in a business
> environment - which if you understood *how* one worked, you would know -
> just a tip.

Uh huh. You work for a pathetic excuse for a hole-in-the-wall company and you think you know everything there is to working in a business environment? Try again. Simply go ask them FIRST before accepting objects--it's that simple. Put up or shut up.

> Alpha
> with
> get a
> adding
> help
> put

Jul 23, 2001, 12:45am

"Put up or shut up."

I believe that is what Facter is trying to do by laying the groundwork and
collecting the objects first... putting up I mean. :)

SW Chris

Jul 23, 2001, 3:12am

<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>
well, aw is a hole in the wall company yeah, but it is good business to
actually HAVe something to show so his superiors know theres an interest
of us citizens... just a thought
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Jul 23, 2001, 5:16am

oh.. did they decide what to do with them now?

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Jul 23, 2001, 10:11am

not to be mean, but you could fix the registry in 5 minutes, you coulduse
RWMod to get the values, and maybe enlarge them a bit, and replace the
current ones

KAH
PS. yet another object that can encroach: booth.rwx

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Jul 23, 2001, 1:22pm

[View Quote] No I couldnt do that, each object needs to be looked at individually, and
then possibly fixed, and then the registry needs to be added to, and then
each object has to be tested, etc etc

It would take about 2 hours at the very least, this is a huge, public
building world, and as I said, I dont have the proper time right now to fix
it during my day.

Its been passed to the modellers, and they will hopefully be ablet o fix it
up soon.

F.

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Jul 23, 2001, 1:29pm

> Uh huh. You work for a pathetic excuse for a hole-in-the-wall company and
you think you know everything there is to working in a business environment?
Try again. Simply go ask them FIRST before accepting objects--it's that
simple. Put up or shut up.

I'm at the end of my tether with you Eep. You have absolutly NO idea what
you are talking about, once again. I have worked in so *many* business
environments you have no idea. I have a MASTERS in Business computing you
....wordless individual, I *worked* at the southern hemispheres most RENOUND
Business University in the BUSINESS department where I ran the *complete*
internet facility, I am so much more qualified to make an opinion on
*business* in an internet environment than you are, that its not even funny
to contemplate.

They know I am looking at ways to improve things, but I am also on a August
the 1st deadline for doing the enw website, and dont have TIME to do sucha
large project as adding objects, so, I am getting people to send things to
me, put together something,t hen after that time go tot hem and say "heres
what we have, what do you think?"

Get a grip on reality Eep, we do not live in Eep'sville, where things are
always as YOU see them, and stop making assumptions on things you have *no*
idea about, you always do that, and refuse to understand why people get so
annoyed at you for being such a judgemental individual.

Next time, like always, know a little more on what you are talkigna bout,
before you throw accusations around such as those.

God why do I even bother replying !!!!

F.

>
in
freely
I'll
to
will
>

Jul 23, 2001, 1:31pm

[View Quote] No, but I do know they are working on the building set for a possible new
world, whenever, and if, it ever does happen...they are working on objects
for it.

F.


> :
> : F.
> :
> : >
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Jul 23, 2001, 2:16pm

> They know I am looking at ways to improve things, but I am also on a
August
> the 1st deadline for doing the enw website.

Really? A new design? Can we get any more details? Plz?

Jul 23, 2001, 2:20pm

And Rick and JP Dont?

The difference is that they do the work you don't see...

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Jul 23, 2001, 4:21pm

they don't do the work I want :-))

KAH

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Jul 23, 2001, 4:43pm

Your not paying them the serveral thousend dollars the people they do listen
to are :o)

Facter is the peoples person..thats why 95% of people like him...

And thats why he moderates the NGs, helps people and basically anything else
that involves user/company interaction...whether he would make a owner
or..well I dunno, I wouldnt want to speculate :)

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