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Feb 25, 2001, 3:44pm

From http://activeworlds.com/help/aw31/avatars.html:

"Avatars are the visual representations of people who are currently inhabiting the Active Worlds virtual environment. Wherever you see an avatar, there is another person using Active Worlds just like yourself."

Bots are avatars that aren't necessarily another REAL person ("just like yourself"--also an incorrect statement since we're all not EXACTLY the same!).

Feb 25, 2001, 5:00pm

[View Quote] the "just like yourself" part goes with "using", not with "another person",
and (assuming you are not talking about a bot) since both of you are using
aw this is can be seen as correct. Of course you *can* argue that the other
person probably isn't using it exactly the way you do.

rolu

Feb 25, 2001, 5:25pm

But that's just it, Rolu, I AM talking about bots, which Roland (or whoever cluelessly wrote AW's help) didn't (and perhaps still doesn't) understand.

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Feb 25, 2001, 6:18pm

Well, to correct those errors, it would say somthing like
"Avatars are the visual representations of people and computer programs
called bots, who are currently inhabiting the Active Worlds virtual
environment. Wherever you see an avatar, there is most likely another person
using Active Worlds similar to yourself."
If you ask me, that sounds purely cheezy and is probably too complex for the
newbie cits that can't even move yet (Seems more tourists know how to move,
build, etc. than cits now that Juno has dumped everyone on us)



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Feb 25, 2001, 7:15pm

Gah, leave it to eep.


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Feb 25, 2001, 8:18pm

I think they left bots out of the equation to make it easier for new users
to understand. This is a relatively minor problem, what's the point in
bringing it up in the newgroup?

:)
SW Chris

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Feb 25, 2001, 9:06pm

Because I can. I notice things like this...little things...(things that make us go--oh, wait, that's not it)...that most people miss. <shrug>

[View Quote] > I think they left bots out of the equation to make it easier for new users
> to understand. This is a relatively minor problem, what's the point in
> bringing it up in the newgroup?
>
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Feb 25, 2001, 9:09pm

Uh, cheesy? Since when is the truth cheesy? I think lies are cheesier. Simply mention bots and add a link to it. <shrug> If anything it'll make new users MORE interested in AW and what it can do than by making them feel stupid.

[View Quote] > Well, to correct those errors, it would say somthing like
> "Avatars are the visual representations of people and computer programs
> called bots, who are currently inhabiting the Active Worlds virtual
> environment. Wherever you see an avatar, there is most likely another person
> using Active Worlds similar to yourself."
> If you ask me, that sounds purely cheezy and is probably too complex for the
> newbie cits that can't even move yet (Seems more tourists know how to move,
> build, etc. than cits now that Juno has dumped everyone on us)
>
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Feb 25, 2001, 10:06pm

Jeese, this is coming from you????? "...what's the point in bringing it up
in the newsgroup?" At least it's AW related unlike the majority of your
posts.
Casay


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Feb 25, 2001, 10:36pm

LOL Eep, ever been to AWGZ and looked at the PCDJ advertisement description
box? It says "Don't just play. Mix! Click here to dowmload PCDJ"
"dowmload"
Now if that isn't unprofessional, I don't know what is. ;-)
Also, the scary this is that this small error has not been seen since the ad
was posted on November 4th, 1999!
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syntax at earthcorp.com
www.swcity.net

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Feb 25, 2001, 11:10pm

*rolls eyes towards AWCom* that would be embarrassing...
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Mayor of SW City
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President of Community Linkage Commission
http://comlinkage.tripod.com

Feb 25, 2001, 11:49pm

[View Quote] Huh? Could you please quote what you're refferring to?

Feb 25, 2001, 11:58pm

Uhh, read it again partner.
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Syntax
syntax at earthcorp.com
www.swcity.net

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Feb 26, 2001, 12:46am

Well who are you? Do I know you? This is the first time I've seen you
around.

:)
SW Chris
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Feb 26, 2001, 2:03am

Just an AW citizen. Prolly a newbie huh? ;-)
Casay
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Feb 26, 2001, 2:09am

Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format.
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Welcome to the AW newsgroups, Casay

casay schrieb:
>
> Just an AW citizen. Prolly a newbie huh? ;-)
> Casay
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Feb 26, 2001, 2:37am

Thanks, maybe I'll learn how all this works huh? *aspires to make objects*
;-)
Casay
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Feb 26, 2001, 2:48am

Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format.
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You could try to use rwmodeler (http://www.rwmodeler.com) for that, it's
a time limited free beta.
And if you want convert stuff or make avatars or animation sequences for
avatars you will sure need AccuTrans. It's only 20$
(http://www.micromouse.ca - it's the new URL).

casay schrieb:
>
> Thanks, maybe I'll learn how all this works huh? *aspires to make objects*
> ;-)
> Casay
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Feb 26, 2001, 4:12am

AccuTrans sounds like a great program. I'll have to try it out. Thanks for
sharing the info ;-)
Hugz!!
Casay
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Feb 26, 2001, 4:28am

LOL... Keep 'em going, Casay... Let "them" tell "you" about AccuTrans (and
object making), sit back and see how much of what you gave to AW ppl about
AccuTrans they actually soaked up... Of course, you might find out you
have to start all over again for the ppl that missed the huge amount of
AccuTrans info you have gleaned and shared with all over the years...

(Guess we can start on an inworld tutorial on AccuTrans next, huh???) *G*

*hugs*
Daphne

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Feb 26, 2001, 7:25am

SW Chris was the one that asked who I was. Ananas was just playing along
;-) Ananas has done a lot for AccuTrans too :-)
Another tutorial??? *have to finish this one first.. * lol
Casay

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Feb 26, 2001, 9:49am

lol, rub it in Casay. :)

But in case you're really wondering who Casay is, Casay is a long time
newsgroup poster and the wonderful manager of the Objects D'AW, the world
AND the website, I believe. :) Also an avid supporter of Accutrans and
Modeler if you didn't notice.

Nornny

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Feb 26, 2001, 3:27pm

Uhhh... Eep, I think I sent a good size kindly email to Roland with like
7-10 thinks that should be updated that he forgot. So don't think you can
notice things other people can't. :)

- YP

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Feb 26, 2001, 5:08pm

Typos in that, thinks = things, I think should be removed :)

- YP :)

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Feb 26, 2001, 7:45pm

wouldn't it make more sense to e-mail Facter, the webmaster?

-Myrth

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Feb 26, 2001, 8:53pm

Kid, I've been in AW longer than you and I'm sure finding bugs in software longer than you too (since 1992), so pipe down before you get put in your place...again.

[View Quote] > Uhhh... Eep, I think I sent a good size kindly email to Roland with like
> 7-10 thinks that should be updated that he forgot. So don't think you can
> notice things other people can't. :)
>
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Feb 26, 2001, 10:44pm

Well, the page source did have the META Author set to Roland on many of the
pages, and most of the problems/typos/need change things were fixed that day
:)

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Feb 26, 2001, 10:52pm

LOL... Not like I said I was better than you or anything but don't brag
about "Since 1992" because experience doesn't mean much to me :) What you
can acttually do is what matters. I know you can do many things better than
me but you dis Roland's programming all the time, and if I am correct, you
don't know how to, or you are not on Roland's level. Also, AW is not your
program therefore you waste alot of time telling how AW should be. Not
everyone is an Eep and likes everything Eep likes. So maybe you should be
"put in your place". I would put you on Filter but your posts are too funny
and ensures I don't get cancer since its said laughing helps prevent it. :)

- YP

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Feb 26, 2001, 11:58pm

[View Quote] Experience doesn't matter?? Apparently so if you think that.

>What you
> can acttually do is what matters. I know you can do many things better
than
> me but you dis Roland's programming all the time, and if I am correct, you
> don't know how to, or you are not on Roland's level.

I believe you're mistaken. Eep has full knowledge of how things run in AW,
inside and out. And it really doesn't take a rocket scientist to fix some of
the things that Eep points out. I mean, even I could've fixed the page for
Roland, and I'm pretty sure Eep can also. Why I don't do it? Because it
doesn't bug me as much, but its nice to know that its there and Eep pointed
it out.

>Also, AW is not your
> program therefore you waste alot of time telling how AW should be.

AW wasn't made for Roland, it was made BY Roland (well, partially made and
maintained by Roland, I can't lose props to the reast of the AWCOMers) for
the internet public. Eep can waste as much of his time "complaining", which
I don't believe he does most of the time.

>Not
> everyone is an Eep and likes everything Eep likes.

No, but whatever we or AWCOM doesn't like doesn't get done. Eep understands
that, I hope. It's quite simple. We kept Eep here because we like what Eep
likes however, in a general sense of his perfection attitude.

>So maybe you should be
> "put in your place". I would put you on Filter but your posts are too
funny
> and ensures I don't get cancer since its said laughing helps prevent it.
:)

I believe you need to be put in your place also YP. :) I don't think Eep
will be as civil towards you, and I don't think he has to be. You'll be
sucking his filter in no time, unfortunately. :/ Just because you email
Roland and Eep emails the public makes no difference. Roland barely reads
bug reports through emails anyways. At least Eep is reaching a captivating
audience. :)

Nornny
>
> - YP
>
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Feb 27, 2001, 12:31am

Read the things after the "#" :)

- YP

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