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Mar 8, 2001, 3:28am

NT is a whole different ballgame. NT can run certain DirectX versions (I know because I had 4x4 Evolution running on NT4). I hear Win2K (NT5) can run the latest DirectX 8 fine, too, so perhaps you just need to upgrade or something. Either way, AW doesn't need to be held back by obsolete software and some people's inability to get a decent video card.

[View Quote] > I use NT4 and will continue using it as long as possible, so I cannot
> use AW3.x either - not before there will be OpenGL support. The reason
> why I don't "upgrade" is that I don't want to loose the quality that NT4
> has after several bugfixes - I would have access to all windows
> versions. Running Linux as second OS would be an option as I worked on
> Unix in several projects - but not any of NT5, 2K, 98, CE, ME as long as
> I can avoid it.
>
> rolu schrieb:

Mar 8, 2001, 4:42am

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You mix up two things - I have no problem to upgrade my hardware - I
have a problem with upgrading to an operating system that is not used by
any of my customers, and hopefully will not be used.

eep schrieb:
>
> NT is a whole different ballgame. NT can run certain DirectX versions (I know because I had 4x4 Evolution running on NT4). I hear Win2K (NT5) can run the latest DirectX 8 fine, too, so perhaps you just need to upgrade or something. Either way, AW doesn't need to be held back by obsolete software and some people's inability to get a decent video card.
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Mar 8, 2001, 7:14am

<shrug> NT isn't a gaming platform--you're supposed to be doing "real" work on it. Get back to work and stop dorking around with AW, Ananas...

[View Quote] > You mix up two things - I have no problem to upgrade my hardware - I
> have a problem with upgrading to an operating system that is not used by
> any of my customers, and hopefully will not be used.
>
> eep schrieb:

Mar 8, 2001, 7:55am

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I agree, NT isn't a gaming platform - and AW isn't a game for me. If I
wanted to play games I would use a different PC, a different OS and
different software.

eep schrieb:
>
> <shrug> NT isn't a gaming platform--you're supposed to be doing "real" work on it. Get back to work and stop dorking around with AW, Ananas...
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Mar 8, 2001, 11:47am

With Microsoft's recent dumbing-down of their ME and XP operating systems, I'll upgrade to NT first. From what I can see, NT will probably be the "power user" OS from Microsoft now with ME and XP being for the home user that has simple uses for a computer.

-Agent1


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Mar 8, 2001, 11:49am

Um, for all intents and purposes, AW IS a game (and a bad one at that). Regardless, NT isn't the OS to be using AW on...yet. I hear Roland is yet again implementing new features instead of fixing bugs and improving existing features. So now yet more bugs can be introduced by his shotty programming and AW will be even MORE "enjoyable" to use. OH YAY

[View Quote] > I agree, NT isn't a gaming platform - and AW isn't a game for me. If I
> wanted to play games I would use a different PC, a different OS and
> different software.
>
> eep schrieb:

Mar 8, 2001, 3:18pm

[View Quote] Ever heard of lunch breaks? hehe

btw, at work I have no choice at all, the OS is NT and thats not something
each employee can change.

But for me its no big deal, I just use aw to keep in touch with people with
telegrams, letting aw (2.2) run somewhere hidden under Word, Excel or other
dead boring applications :)

HenrikG


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Mar 8, 2001, 10:28pm

i don't want to argue.. but i don't see any of the basic concepts of a game
in aw.. please indulge me..

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Mar 9, 2001, 12:29am

"upgrading" to NT? as in nt4, the end of the line? why don't you "upgrade"
to win95, then? neither one of them are shipping. technically, XP is
sortof NT5.1, so why do you group it with that POS "ME"...


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Mar 9, 2001, 1:57am

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Upgrade must not necessarily be by version, it can be an upgrade for
more quality or more reliability.

e.g. DOS 4.01 was a downgrade from 3.31 as it was a loss of quality,
although the version number was higher ;)

scred schrieb:
>
> "upgrading" to NT? as in nt4, the end of the line? why don't you "upgrade"
> to win95, then? neither one of them are shipping. technically, XP is
> sortof NT5.1, so why do you group it with that POS "ME"...
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Mar 9, 2001, 11:15am

By NT, I mean Windows 2000. If XP and ME aren't in the same line, then I still have reason to group them together... They're in the I'll-never-install-it-on-any-computer group :)

-Agent1


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Mar 9, 2001, 4:00pm

XP is Windows 2001 succeeding Windows 2000. This time it really is the
OS that every Windows user is meant to use. No more 9x versions. There
will be a "Personal" version for former 9x users with no support for
dual processors etc but it's still the same OS as "Professional" and
"Server" etc.
There are new functions to trick applications that they are running in
older versions. I have played games for 9x in XP beta (Whistler) with no
problems after configuring them to believe they are running in W95.
Since XP is meant for everybody from newbie to master the interface of
course has a lot of fluff for the advanced user. The first thing a
normal user will do after installation is turning off a lot of stuff.
Not uncommon even today

Jonas aka dZap

"agent1" <Agent1 at my.activeworlds.com> skrev i meddelandet
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> By NT, I mean Windows 2000. If XP and ME aren't in the same line, then
I still have reason to group them together... They're in the
I'll-never-install-it-on-any-computer group :)
>
> -Agent1
>
>
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Mar 9, 2001, 8:29pm

[View Quote] ah, just like windows 95? I'll believe it when I see it :-)

> No more 9x versions.

That's what Microsoft wants. MS wants you to pay $much every thime they
release a new version. Ultimately they don't even want you to buy it
anymore, they'll rent it to you and you'll pay a monthly fee.

There will be many people who don't want to pay that much for yet another
upgrade, and will stick with older versions.

> There
> will be a "Personal" version for former 9x users with no support for
> dual processors etc but it's still the same OS as "Professional" and
> "Server" etc.

I doubt it will be the same. For example, why not include multi cpu support
in the standard version? It's not as if it makes it slower or something when
running on only one cpu. The standard version will lack a bunch of things
the pro version has, and the pro version will cost much more.

> There are new functions to trick applications that they are running in
> older versions. I have played games for 9x in XP beta (Whistler) with no
> problems after configuring them to believe they are running in W95.
> Since XP is meant for everybody from newbie to master the interface of
> course has a lot of fluff for the advanced user. The first thing a
> normal user will do after installation is turning off a lot of stuff.
> Not uncommon even today

yup... one of the first things I do is turn off all the stupid animations.

rolu

Mar 9, 2001, 10:00pm

Then why pay? Operating systems are some of the most common items, and even
XP's registration will be circumvented through one of Microsoft's proverbial
security holes before they even release the software. Even though I'll
probably buy it at least to check it out, I'll still crack it because
registering an OS every damned time I reformat would be a pain since I do it
oh so often.
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Mar 9, 2001, 10:16pm

LoL Its more then just "dual processors" it also has no system services I
believe which was always the big NT thing....If I got XP i would definitly
get the pro cause I'd want system services and dual processor support lol..
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Mar 11, 2001, 12:20pm

<rant>SUBSCRIPTION SOFTWARE Is PURE EVIL!!!! DONT SUPPORT It
EVER!!!!</rant>

Thanks

-John Viper

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Mar 11, 2001, 12:25pm

[View Quote] Agreed.

(for the ones wondering: AW is not subscription software. You pay for the
right to be a citizen and use AW's servers as such.)

rolu

Mar 11, 2001, 1:06pm

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If I want an endless story I read Michael Ende or watch funny movies
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