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Dec 15, 2000, 12:58am

Legion: Recently, founder of USWF decided that to be member of USWF or maybe
benefits that they wanted world owner to pay fees.
BH Sk8er Bait: lol
2MuChCoFfEe: ohh
Pioneer: hello
Tomba: oh
Sk8BrDrZ: it's a black dots
Tomba: lol
Tomba: this place
Pioneer: can you come and see if i have the pict1.rwx right
Sk8BrDrZ: 2 much sup man i saw ya before
2MuChCoFfEe: hey tomba
2MuChCoFfEe: yea :o)
Tomba: << used to be richest beotch inuswf lol
Tomba: hey
Tomba: vote
Legion: I think USWF is a insult.
BH Sk8er Bait: vote 2much!
Stingerslick: hello all
2MuChCoFfEe: ; o \
2MuChCoFfEe: hi!
BH Sk8er Bait: 2much 2 much 2much!
2MuChCoFfEe: hehe thanks blake
Stingerslick: WHtas up USWF_CC
BH Sk8er Bait: lol
Tomba: brb
Legion: Just get out of here! USWF ain't your good friend, but rather from
hell.
Stingerslick: *is lagging*
2MuChCoFfEe: legion!
Stingerslick: Legion that cant egt you eject6ed lol
Stingerslick: have to cuss or vandalize stuyff like that
BH Sk8er Bait: if you don't like the uswf, then get out cuz we don't want
your hate crimes here
RyanR75: hello
2MuChCoFfEe: hey Danboy :o)
2MuChCoFfEe: vote for me! :o)
RyanR75: lol
BH Sk8er Bait: 2much 2much 2much!
2MuChCoFfEe: go tot he vote bot and.. whipser vote.. and.. then whiper vote
8
2MuChCoFfEe: lol
Stingerslick: no
Stingerslick: vote 6 lol
Legion: They charged you fee if you join that organization. look for post in
newsgroup at news.activeworlds.com/
DanBoy: sorry,
2MuChCoFfEe: sorry?
DanBoy: lol
DanBoy: i not voting for anyone
2MuChCoFfEe: why
2MuChCoFfEe: ; o\
Stingerslick: lol
2MuChCoFfEe: ti am hurt
2MuChCoFfEe: I am hurt
2MuChCoFfEe: lol
Legion: Eep doesn't like USWF and I agreed with him.
Immigration Officer: You have been ejected from uswf_cc

See? They just censored me, worrying that USWF might lose its revenue from
fee. Thats just bullshit. World owner don't need stupid bot fee and disk. I
say, boycott USWF! They just pissed me off. World need to be independent
from control of organization.

Legion

Dec 15, 2000, 3:09am

Y'know, I've listened to Legion's rants for quite some time now. I've
watched him rile up Eep, et al, in a failed attempt at humor. I've
watched him throw mindless accusations left and right in some misguided
effort of AW loyalism. But now I grow weary of his stupidity, especially
when he attacks not just a business partner, but also a friend's
organization.

It has always been clear to me, Leg, that you've never had all your
marbles when it comes to posting, and I think it's time for you to stop.
Stop posting mindless banter. Stop posting empty accusations. And stop
wasting our time. I'm not even going to bother trying to point out all
of the wrongs you speak of in your post, because I know it won't sink
in.

But before I bid you farewell, I'll give you these few pieces of advice
to take with you:

1.) AW is NOT going to sue you. Period. You can stop kissing their ass
because they won't even acknowledge you.

2.) Stop idolizing Eep. Lord knows he has a big enough ego already, he
doesn't need a shadow trying to emulate him on top of it.

3.) Get all your facts straight before posting. Going off on some
mindless rant just because of one chat session is bound to get you in
trouble, among other things.

I could go on, but again it would probably be wasted on you. And for
those of you who think this harsh, I have had to deal with Legion on
*numerous* occasions, not just here in the NGs, and frankly I'm sick of
it. This kid needs to grow up and start acting like a real person before
he winds up saying the wrong thing to the wrong person and gets himself
in *real* trouble. I've tried my best to set him straight, but alas to
no avail. If anyone else wants to take a crack at it, go right ahead.

This is the last time I will address him directly; after this, he's on
his own. Goodbye Legion.

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Goober King
There's just no saving some people...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Dec 15, 2000, 4:08am

Hey man give em' a break, if a world owner wants a money currency in his
world, they'll pay just like they pay for their custom objects and avatars,
it's not that much different. Besides, you expect people to leave a server
running 24/7 for free?

except for one thing:
Ps: Anduin Lothar, please stop ignoring my tgrams.

Dec 15, 2000, 4:54pm

Do you know WHAT the fee is for????
You don't have to pay it if you become a MEMBER of the USWF!!!! It's just if
you want your own monetary system!
And I'm head of the Event&Advertising Comittee in the USWF, and i can offer
lots of benefits! So you can just SHUT UP! (to all you others (except Eep):
sorry for the bad language) I will suggest that you get ejected from ALL
member worlds for 10 years because of this disrespect for a hard-working
bunch of ppl trying to make a good service for SMART mayors/world owners
(so, i understand why YOU don't like it...)! And I understand why ya got
ejected, cuzz when you scream out propaganda about the USWF, it's clear that
we don't want you! AWCI should prohibe ya from posting stuff to this NG! I
HATE at # at $# at $# LIKE YOU!!!!!!!!!!! Go to somewhere else if you want to say
bad things!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And never show yourself in a USWF
world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KAH

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Dec 15, 2000, 4:58pm

Now children, play nice.

[View Quote] > Do you know WHAT the fee is for????
> You don't have to pay it if you become a MEMBER of the USWF!!!! It's just if
> you want your own monetary system!
> And I'm head of the Event&Advertising Comittee in the USWF, and i can offer
> lots of benefits! So you can just SHUT UP! (to all you others (except Eep):
> sorry for the bad language) I will suggest that you get ejected from ALL
> member worlds for 10 years because of this disrespect for a hard-working
> bunch of ppl trying to make a good service for SMART mayors/world owners
> (so, i understand why YOU don't like it...)! And I understand why ya got
> ejected, cuzz when you scream out propaganda about the USWF, it's clear that
> we don't want you! AWCI should prohibe ya from posting stuff to this NG! I
> HATE at # at $# at $# LIKE YOU!!!!!!!!!!! Go to somewhere else if you want to say
> bad things!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And never show yourself in a USWF
> world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> KAH
>
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Dec 15, 2000, 6:43pm

Okay kah, Legion's post was bad, but god, how did you become Event and
Advertising head with that type of...err...speech? :) More replies below. :)

Nornny

[View Quote] I think the point Legion was getting at (even though he never worded it
quite right) was that you shouldn't have to even pay at all. :) But oh well,
you know him. :)
> And I'm head of the Event&Advertising Comittee in the USWF, and i can
offer
> lots of benefits! So you can just SHUT UP! (to all you others (except
Eep):
> sorry for the bad language)

Mondo mistake here dude. :) I'm assuming you want an apology for Legion's
bashing, but yet you just bashed Eep himself? :) Even if you didn't, it puts
you in as low as a position as Legion. I'm also refering to things said
below.

>I will suggest that you get ejected from ALL
> member worlds for 10 years because of this disrespect for a hard-working
> bunch of ppl trying to make a good service for SMART mayors/world owners
> (so, i understand why YOU don't like it...)! And I understand why ya got
> ejected, cuzz when you scream out propaganda about the USWF, it's clear
that
> we don't want you! AWCI should prohibe ya from posting stuff to this NG!

That's a bit harsh and overexaggerated thought. :) So he disagrees with you
and is kinda a baby about getting kicked out, so what? Just deal, like
banning him from the worlds is gonna make things better? :) *you'd think
that though, huh?* Look, the only mistake I saw in kicking Legion out was
that you showed JUST as little reason to kick him out in the chat log, as he
did in saying those nasty things.

>I
> HATE at # at $# at $# LIKE YOU!!!!!!!!!!! Go to somewhere else if you want to say
> bad things!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And never show yourself in a USWF
> world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, the argument would be that he would be saying *true* things. :) Not
that THAT'S true. I hope you guys find a way to deal with him though.
Basically though, he wasn't doing anything wrong, and neither were you guys
in kicking him out. I mean, where else do you want to dissuade people from
joining the USWF? :P

Nornny
>
> KAH
>

Dec 15, 2000, 7:57pm

Legion,
As you "don't" know and have never even tried giving USWF a chance, the
bots are currently down and members are still joining, we have promised all
members a free copy of the bot when it is ready.
You also just happened to enter USWF_CC which unfortunately, just so you
know, is the Community Center. Our Trainees work there and get tested on
their behaviour and how they use their rights.
If you want the heart of the organisation, get access to USWF_HQ, which
is where we do all the work and organise things... Unfortunately it is
private and only staff have access of course.

Also, it's a mean thing for you to do, 2MuChCoFfEe tells me that you two
"use" to be really good friends, I don't know who told you to act this way
to put the USWF down, but everyone has their own thoughts and have the
rights to post it here if they really wish to. WHat I know is that the USWF
is going really well, and some people like it and some don't.


--
Best Regards,
Anduin Lothar (Samuel Lison)

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
The USWF, There's No Better Place!
Contact: uswf at uswf-aw.com
Web-Page: www.uswf-aw.com
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Dec 15, 2000, 8:02pm

SW Comit,
Atleast I don't think I've ignored your telegrams? When was the last
time you sent me one?

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Dec 15, 2000, 8:12pm

KAH,
hehe ummm, I think you went a bit over the top...
To those who want that in English:
The USWF has 2 plans for the bots... We give you this choince on our
application form found on our webpage at www.uswf-aw.com
You can choose:
*Captalism (Meaning VR money made in your world/town may be spent and made
in any other world/town of the USWF using th captlism plan also), this plan
is totally free and runs on a network of Xelagots).
*Own Economy, this is where you get the copy of our new bot when it is
finished, it does not allow you to make money in one world and spend it in
another, as it is one bot that doesn't work through a network system. The
owner of the bot will have full control of their own system on the GUI
(Graphical User Interface) where they can edit their citizens accounts and
even charge taxes if they wish. As I've said earlier, this bot will
automatically be given for free to the world/town owners who are already
members. New members will be charged $20.US for this plan to benefit the bot
programmer and things like that.


--
Best Regards,
Anduin Lothar (Samuel Lison)

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
The USWF, There's No Better Place!
Contact: uswf at uswf-aw.com
Web-Page: www.uswf-aw.com
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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Dec 15, 2000, 8:22pm

Let me just say that we are not going to ban someone from every world in the
USWF because they have a different opinions.

Now, Legion.. LOL You hate the USWF yet you voted for 2MuChCoFfEe to become
the President of the USWF, are you going to make up your mind or are you
somehow supporting us?

I don't know who could have made you want to go on a rampage like this but
oh well... I say go for it, I wont do anything about it, although I would
probably contact an AW PeaceKeeper for causing troubles in my worlds and
putting all of us down like you have done in this Newsgroup.


--
Best Regards,
Anduin Lothar (Samuel Lison)

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The USWF, There's No Better Place!
Contact: uswf at uswf-aw.com
Web-Page: www.uswf-aw.com
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Dec 16, 2000, 12:05am

I was just wondering what USWF is ?

Dec 16, 2000, 1:07am

The USWF (standing for United States World Federation) is there to join up
worlds and towns of ActiveWorlds together into one big community...
The USWF provides that world or town Security from our USWF Security Staff,
help with building and more. You also get to choose whether you wish to
participate with our VR Money system of Bank Bots and so on.

You can find more information at www.uswf-aw.com


--
Best Regards,
Anduin Lothar (Samuel Lison)

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
The USWF, There's No Better Place!
Contact: uswf at uswf-aw.com
Web-Page: www.uswf-aw.com
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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Dec 16, 2000, 3:09am

hmmm.. United States World Federation that wants to link up towns and worlds
from across AW... hmmm... granted there are many American users in AW but there
are a whole heap of non Americans as well.. you might do well with a minor
name change like ummm.. say United Community Federation or ummm.. AW Community
Federation... oh darn, looks like you already got a domain.. well good luck
in your quest to unite the worlds and towns under a United States banner...

[View Quote] > The USWF (standing for United States World Federation) is there to join up
> worlds and towns of ActiveWorlds together into one big community...
> The USWF provides that world or town Security from our USWF Security Staff,
> help with building and more. You also get to choose whether you wish to
> participate with our VR Money system of Bank Bots and so on.
>
> You can find more information at www.uswf-aw.com
>
> --
> Best Regards,
> Anduin Lothar (Samuel Lison)
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> The USWF, There's No Better Place!
> Contact: uswf at uswf-aw.com
> Web-Page: www.uswf-aw.com
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
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Dec 16, 2000, 3:57am

He left out a slash in the name... it's actually United States/Worlds
Federation... "United States" doesn't always equal "American"... It just
means a group of communities ("States" and/or "Worlds") united together
under a common theme/purpose (in this case, VR money)

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Goober King
Let's not start American-bashing, shall we? :P
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Dec 16, 2000, 4:02am

USWF is PHATNESS if u have a problem with it u can suck my fat DICK

[View Quote] > KAH,
> hehe ummm, I think you went a bit over the top...
> To those who want that in English:
> The USWF has 2 plans for the bots... We give you this choince on our
> application form found on our webpage at www.uswf-aw.com
> You can choose:
> *Captalism (Meaning VR money made in your world/town may be spent and made
> in any other world/town of the USWF using th captlism plan also), this plan
> is totally free and runs on a network of Xelagots).
> *Own Economy, this is where you get the copy of our new bot when it is
> finished, it does not allow you to make money in one world and spend it in
> another, as it is one bot that doesn't work through a network system. The
> owner of the bot will have full control of their own system on the GUI
> (Graphical User Interface) where they can edit their citizens accounts and
> even charge taxes if they wish. As I've said earlier, this bot will
> automatically be given for free to the world/town owners who are already
> members. New members will be charged $20.US for this plan to benefit the bot
> programmer and things like that.
>
> --
> Best Regards,
> Anduin Lothar (Samuel Lison)
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> The USWF, There's No Better Place!
> Contact: uswf at uswf-aw.com
> Web-Page: www.uswf-aw.com
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
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Dec 16, 2000, 4:08am

United (Unite)
States (world/Towns of ActiveWorlds)
World
Federation (Community and VR money etc)


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Dec 16, 2000, 10:43am

OK, I admit that I got really piss*d off, but hey, it ain't that weird, all
we in the staff use time (and time=money on the net) on making the USWF a
even better place. I apologise for me being rude, and I'll try to control
myself better next time.

KAH
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Dec 16, 2000, 6:45pm

nope.. United States equals Americans or the American culture.. say what you
mean/mean what you say.. take away everything else and then ask 1000 people what
United States means and you will get 1000 identical answers or very close to
identical; it means America (unless of course you are trying to make a point and will
say something like "United States" doesn't always equal "American"... It just
means a group of communities"). Before America there was no United States of anything
and since American any United States of anything seeks to emulate that society.
Don't get me wrong with my posts here, I think organizing worlds or towns is a good
thing since it allows the sharing of ideas, objects, talent etc... I just think the
name implys a bit of elitism or possibly a bit of exclusion if you are not American
or aligned with the American culture.. just my humble opinion, take it or leave it..

[View Quote] > He left out a slash in the name... it's actually United States/Worlds
> Federation... "United States" doesn't always equal "American"... It just
> means a group of communities ("States" and/or "Worlds") united together
> under a common theme/purpose (in this case, VR money)
>
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Dec 16, 2000, 11:36pm

Americans, though technically, involve even South American AND Central
Americans. So, you're just as elitists as the rest of us with that
oversight. :) Sure, people look at the US as the countries, but hey, USSR
and China's full name both involve a united states or united republic or
some form of it too. People may look at it as the country, but hey, it's fun
to prove people wrong! :P

Nornny

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Dec 17, 2000, 3:28am

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weve all got our opinions...but please leave your fantasies out of this
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Dec 17, 2000, 10:31am

Well put Rehabber. I am wondering why they didn't use UWF ( United Worlds Federation).
As there are no 'states' in ActiveWorld.

Holistic1

[View Quote] > nope.. United States equals Americans or the American culture.. say what you
> mean/mean what you say.. take away everything else and then ask 1000 people what
> United States means and you will get 1000 identical answers or very close to
> identical; it means America (unless of course you are trying to make a point and will
> say something like "United States" doesn't always equal "American"... It just
> means a group of communities"). Before America there was no United States of anything
> and since American any United States of anything seeks to emulate that society.
> Don't get me wrong with my posts here, I think organizing worlds or towns is a good
> thing since it allows the sharing of ideas, objects, talent etc... I just think the
> name implys a bit of elitism or possibly a bit of exclusion if you are not American
> or aligned with the American culture.. just my humble opinion, take it or leave it..
>
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Dec 17, 2000, 6:15pm

holistic1,
The only "States" I see in AW is "Altered States".....joking :-)

Berserker

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Dec 17, 2000, 8:18pm

LOL

[View Quote] > holistic1,
> The only "States" I see in AW is "Altered States".....joking :-)
>
> Berserker
>
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Dec 21, 2000, 5:28pm

I don't remember, I send like 100 tgrams a day (give or take few =P ), and
it was a long time ago. I haven't sent you a tgram since.

Dec 22, 2000, 8:01pm

If It's Bull Shit You Must Like Being In Bullshit Cause I See You There All
The Time,Because You Can't Afford Your Own World You Have To Say Everyone's
World Sucks.Like Why Don't You Go From Nornny to "Hornny"??????

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[View Quote] >
> That's a bit harsh and overexaggerated thought. :) So he disagrees with
you
> and is kinda a baby about getting kicked out, so what? Just deal, like
> banning him from the worlds is gonna make things better? :) *you'd think
> that though, huh?* Look, the only mistake I saw in kicking Legion out was
> that you showed JUST as little reason to kick him out in the chat log, as
he
> did in saying those nasty things.
>
say
>
> Well, the argument would be that he would be saying *true* things. :) Not
> that THAT'S true. I hope you guys find a way to deal with him though.
> Basically though, he wasn't doing anything wrong, and neither were you
guys
> in kicking him out. I mean, where else do you want to dissuade people from
> joining the USWF? :P
>
> Nornny
>
>
>

Dec 22, 2000, 8:37pm

God, it's Pokemon Web, revisited! >:P

First thing's first: Lay off the crack, dude. Secondly, learn how to
puncuate. Thirdly, nowhere in Nornny's post did he label USWF as
"bullshit". That was Legion, not Nornny, get your facts straight.
Geez...

Gotta love 12 yr olds that can't read. :P

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Goober King
When... does the hurting... stop?
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Dec 22, 2000, 8:39pm

Umm ok then, first of all, Nornny did not start that subject, Legion Did...
Nornny has nothing to do with it. Next this is get your facts straight
before you start insulting people, although you shouldn't even be doing that
in the newsgroups...


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Dec 22, 2000, 8:41pm

i wrote nornny???opps jesus I Didn't Mean Him I Thought I Looked Who It
Was,I Didn't Take Any Time I Had To Go Fast.And Im Not 12
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Dec 22, 2000, 8:44pm

i said i made a mistake and got the wrong name i was in to much of a hurry

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Dec 22, 2000, 8:47pm

Ok I Did Not Mean Nornny i just saw His Name There...I Did Not Have Much
Time Ok Sorry.....

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