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Bots and Privacy // Communityalex grigny de castro (xelag)Jun 10, 2000, 8:05pm
Bots and Privacy
I am writing this short essay because I have noticed that even people who are responsible for worlds and world hostings seem very confused about the powers bots have, especially regarding privacy. A bot can do many things better and faster that people using a browser. In fact, bots can sometimes perceive and do things browsers can not do. For example, a bot can detect when someont clicks on someone else, or clicks or selects an object. A bot can also detect who is present within its bot perception radius (the same radius that applies to browsers). But there there things a bot can not do. Here is a list of things which concern privacy: 1. A bot can not read whispers which are not addressed to it. 2. A bot can not retrieve IP numbers, unless its owner's citizen number has eject powers or is Caretaker. 3. Because a bot can not put on privs, even if its owner gets special powers by putting on privs, the bot does not get those powers. This applies to all rights: eject, caretaker, public speaker etc. 4. A bot can not get the url of the object path of a world, unless it is Caretaker. 5. A bot can not get the object password even if it is Caretaker. Bots can log conversations, just in the same way any browser can. Bots can hide their identity just as a citizen/tourist can, by not speaking. These two abilities of bots and people are controversial: why should a browser or a bot log what I say? Well, since browsers can do that, why not bots? More annoying is the fact that some people in public places do not wish to reveal themselves or their names. They may be logging what I say, but I do not know who they are. In fact, it could be people I do not wish to see or have near me. That, I feel, is a greater infringement on my rights of privacy than anything a bot can do. I saw today, in a world that allows all bots, a notice at GZ forbidding bots in that area for reasons of privacy. The penalty: ejection on detection. I have added that world to the file that prevents my bots from entering GZ, but still wonder what sort of reason drives a world owner to allow all bots, but use the argument of privacy for certain areas. Any person or bot that misbehaves can be warned and ejected, but using the reason of privacy to ban bots seems to me to rely on misconceptions. XelaG walter knupeJun 11, 2000, 7:46pm
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This is exaclty why bots disturb privacy: They see names of people who did not speak yet even
without special rights. All you need to do is bring a bot along and noone can hide. I am not sure if i like this hiding or not, but the feature that names are hidden until someone speaks is valued by many ppl and bots circumvent it. Faber john viperJun 12, 2000, 11:28am
If AWCOM took this feature out... and replaced it with a check box somewhere that said "Privacy
Mode", things would work a lot better. If the box were unchecked, you name would be atop of your head no matter where you go. Everybody (including bots) could see you. If this feature were checked (activated), your name would NOT be on your head, it would be handled in an ICQ way in which if you speak it is disbaled and if you whisper to someone only THEY know you are there) your green check would be disabled. The ONLY people that could see you are caretakers and bots that are under the caretaker's name. It would really solve a lot of problems, and there would be no more privacy infringement. Thats my $0.02 _________________________ John Viper http://www.jtsoft.net <-- Coming Soon! [View Quote] |