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May 30, 2000, 11:30am

They're starting to creep me out, not that I frequent them or anything, but just seeing them there...and increasing in number is kinda creepy. I mean I can understand why Pokemon worlds keep appearing, but not Gor. For those who don't know, they're adult-oriented worlds related to bondage and discipline (BD). I really have to wonder about the people who create them...and frequent them... I recently read about one person's experience in these worlds, Lord Neo, I believe it was, who made the whole Gor experience seem very psychologically disruptive and frustrating. Anyway, just thought I'd see what others think about this and perhaps try to understand these people's mentality a bit better.

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May 30, 2000, 8:57pm

You're right, the influx of Gor worlds over the last year defies belief.
Perhaps they need to all be banished to their own universe (!?)
At first i thought odd to compare understanding the reason behind there
being dozens of Pokemon worlds to understanding, or rather not understanding
the reasons for there being dozens of Gor worlds. However after a bit of
thought on it I'm inclined to believe that the reasons for the popularity of
both, strange as the comparison is, might in fact be quite simular.
>From what I can see, the two obsessions are linked to, i'll call it 'power
play'. Every Pokemon fan wants to be the best, thats what its all about..
they want to know more than the next person, they want to have all the
cards, play the game, read the book and own the world. Maybe the reasons
behind whats up with all the Gor worlds are in fact pretty simular, a power
play for adults.
With regard to understanding their mentality a bit better; the fact that
you, me and no doubt most other people don't understand it is probably a
blessing, rather than something to seek answers for ; )

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Jun 1, 2000, 2:30am

Amen.

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Jun 1, 2000, 11:42am

Live and let live people . If you do not like Gor worlds or Pokemon worlds
then do not go there.


PJ kirjoitti viestissä <3935e6cd$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com>...
>Amen.

Jun 1, 2000, 4:33pm

Yes, that's fine for worlds with "Gor" in their names, but I've run across several that don't even seem to be Gor-related in their name yet as soon as I enter it's some bot or person telling me to "STATE YOUR AGE OUT LOUD", "Tal, Eep", or some other nonsense. It just gets annoying after a while...

[View Quote] > Live and let live people . If you do not like Gor worlds or Pokemon worlds
> then do not go there.

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Jun 2, 2000, 11:53am

I know several other things than "Tal " that is annoying and what you here
in worlds not related to Pokemon nor Gor.For instance total ignorance from
PS or worldowner when one enters and says hello is a thing that pisses me
off.I have also come across non-gor adult worlds than sometimes have an
owner with a bad attitude. I once visited a place where the owner was a man
hater. It is not my fault I am born a man LOL
Eep² kirjoitti viestissä <3936ac7d$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com>...
>Yes, that's fine for worlds with "Gor" in their names, but I've run across
several that don't even seem to be Gor-related in their name yet as soon as
I enter it's some bot or person telling me to "STATE YOUR AGE OUT LOUD",
"Tal, Eep", or some other nonsense. It just gets annoying after a while...
>
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Jun 2, 2000, 11:18pm

And the number one way to annoy the crap out of a Peacekeeper... er Peacekiller...
"Tal, Peacekeeper XX"

[View Quote] > Yes, that's fine for worlds with "Gor" in their names, but I've run across several that don't even seem to be Gor-related in their name yet as soon as I enter it's some bot or person telling me to "STATE YOUR AGE OUT LOUD", "Tal, Eep", or some other nonsense. It just gets annoying after a while...
>
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Jun 4, 2000, 8:04pm

Whass "Tal"?

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Jun 5, 2000, 11:27am

"Tal So-And-So" is the Gorean greeting used when addressing other Masters
and Mistresses or "free" people. It does not apply when greeting a slave...
in which case the word used is "Greetings so-and-so".

They way their bots figure out whether to greet with "Tal" or "Greetings" is
by whether your nick is capitalised or not. Slaves most use a lower case
letter to begin their nick.

There is no short explanation about Gorean lifestyle... it takes a while to
understand it, longer to get use to it, and even longer to figure out
whether its good to be part of or not. The downside of that is for some
people who lack control skills and are easily led - they may find themselves
in situations that they do not want to be part of with no way to get
themselves out. In this respect, it is very much "cult-like". Procede with
much caution. And if you do get involved, be prepared for an emotional
roller-coaster ride.

Regards, Justin



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Jun 6, 2000, 1:08pm

I have had Goreans come into my world and order their * ahem* "women" around.
At which point I told them to get out of my world and leave their Gorean beliefs
to their own.
The fact that some ppl take AW's virtual experience too far. Then to have brain
washed ppl believing this Gor role playing ( which I was told once they practice
outside of AW as well) is awful, especially the portrayal of Slaves and the way
the treat their Women with very lil regard or respect. Luring vulnerable women
who need affecting online into their roles. Then when they realize the are being
used badly, are left emotionally scarred and ostracized by their peers.

Each to their own, but certainly not for me, or my Worlds.

[View Quote] > "Tal So-And-So" is the Gorean greeting used when addressing other Masters
> and Mistresses or "free" people. It does not apply when greeting a slave...
> in which case the word used is "Greetings so-and-so".
>
> They way their bots figure out whether to greet with "Tal" or "Greetings" is
> by whether your nick is capitalised or not. Slaves most use a lower case
> letter to begin their nick.
>
> There is no short explanation about Gorean lifestyle... it takes a while to
> understand it, longer to get use to it, and even longer to figure out
> whether its good to be part of or not. The downside of that is for some
> people who lack control skills and are easily led - they may find themselves
> in situations that they do not want to be part of with no way to get
> themselves out. In this respect, it is very much "cult-like". Procede with
> much caution. And if you do get involved, be prepared for an emotional
> roller-coaster ride.
>
> Regards, Justin
>
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Jun 7, 2000, 11:40am

I understand their behavior when they are in the Gorean worlds, because I
read some of the books , they if I remember correctly (and please don't
scream if I get it wrong its been a few years and I have read thousands of
books since then) written by a one J Norman or Norman J, either way all this
is done because they either read the book (discontinued thank you very
much), or were told that just how you operate!

And the only reason I know this was that my parents were both Gor nuts to
the point of naming me after the main character! To my ever regret for the
duration of my childhood.

Basically though they should be considerate of others, as in leaving your
slavebots at the door to non-Gor worlds.

My two-cents on the subject.

Tarl F.G. a.k.a. Jeiden

P.S. If any Gorean nut shows up on my world and is not polite they will be
banned for as long as the world exists. Leave Gor at the door or don't come
in!

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Jun 9, 2000, 11:45am

I too am having a great deal of difficulity understanding and accepting all the
recent fervor over "Gor". I have lost a couple close AW friends to this craze,
and frankly it frightens me. Pokemon I can understand because it is the kids and
seems quite harmless, they are easily led, and want acceptance from their peers
but when adults act in the same manner I think "cult"! Last night I had a friend
send me a newspaper clipping from Kansas about a woman here on AW who was found
dead stuffed into a barrell in some warehouse. I was told from several others
online that she frequented GOR worlds and met her killer there. I don't know
this to be the truth. I'm just saying I wouldn't doubt it in the least if it
were. I did not know her or her killer but it makes you start to really worry
about how many more psychos are out there playing "master" on the many GOR
worlds that seem to be cropping up. As far as my worlds are concerned I don't
boot out GOR members but it does make me a bit uncomfortable when they play the
slave/master roles. Some of them are SO serious about it and to me it is just
silly but as I just said, sometimes deadly.

Wings0nite

P.S. OMG, I agreed with Eep on an issue :)

[View Quote] > I understand their behavior when they are in the Gorean worlds, because I
> read some of the books , they if I remember correctly (and please don't
> scream if I get it wrong its been a few years and I have read thousands of
> books since then) written by a one J Norman or Norman J, either way all this
> is done because they either read the book (discontinued thank you very
> much), or were told that just how you operate!
>
> And the only reason I know this was that my parents were both Gor nuts to
> the point of naming me after the main character! To my ever regret for the
> duration of my childhood.
>
> Basically though they should be considerate of others, as in leaving your
> slavebots at the door to non-Gor worlds.
>
> My two-cents on the subject.
>
> Tarl F.G. a.k.a. Jeiden
>
> P.S. If any Gorean nut shows up on my world and is not polite they will be
> banned for as long as the world exists. Leave Gor at the door or don't come
> in!
>
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Jun 9, 2000, 8:18pm

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I saw that on the news this mornin. Anyone know of a cit named Slave Master? *loads
up aw and tries to add him to contax* Unless AWCI cancelled his citship, or he goes
by a diff name on aw, the killer guy doesnt render among us. However, one of his
many victims very well may have been.

Enuff scary crap,
--Wing
Citizen 305004
Wing 'n Jess 4eva

[View Quote] > I too am having a great deal of difficulity understanding and accepting all the
> recent fervor over "Gor". I have lost a couple close AW friends to this craze,
> and frankly it frightens me. Pokemon I can understand because it is the kids and
> seems quite harmless, they are easily led, and want acceptance from their peers
> but when adults act in the same manner I think "cult"! Last night I had a friend
> send me a newspaper clipping from Kansas about a woman here on AW who was found
> dead stuffed into a barrell in some warehouse. I was told from several others
> online that she frequented GOR worlds and met her killer there. I don't know
> this to be the truth. I'm just saying I wouldn't doubt it in the least if it
> were. I did not know her or her killer but it makes you start to really worry
> about how many more psychos are out there playing "master" on the many GOR
> worlds that seem to be cropping up. As far as my worlds are concerned I don't
> boot out GOR members but it does make me a bit uncomfortable when they play the
> slave/master roles. Some of them are SO serious about it and to me it is just
> silly but as I just said, sometimes deadly.
>
> Wings0nite
>
> P.S. OMG, I agreed with Eep on an issue :)
>
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Jun 10, 2000, 8:03pm

I was just socializing at GZ (what else does one do in the middle of
builders block?), when the subject of Gor came up thru that poor (AW
cit?) that got murdered and stuffed in a 55 gallon drum. And then
someone mentioned that they know of at least 3 PKs that actively
participate in Gor... Not saying we should discriminate, just dont let
the PKs carry whips *L*. Pretty scary, but funny at the same time.

--Wing
Citizen 305004
Wing 'n Jess 4eva

Jun 10, 2000, 8:04pm

I was just visiting a Gor world and I lied about my age so I could stay and find out, from the people "practicing" Gor what it was
about.

Once I told them that I wasn't actually over 18, they threatened:
[Parp]: I will have you put in for a complaint of harassment as soon as I arrive Agent1.
....
Agent1: Parp, harassing who?
[Parp]: you will be hearing from the Peacekeepers
....
[Parp]: for lying
[Parp]: for coming here
....
[Parp]: and I have your citnumber, so don't try and hide
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I doubt that what I did could be considered harassment. I think that once my chat log has been shown to a PK (if one even asks me
about it), everything will be cleared up.

-Agent1

Jun 10, 2000, 8:04pm

Can either of you (Wing and Irene) provide more info (what news, Wing? which newspaper, Irene? etc) as to where you heard/read about this? I would like to see if it's actually true. If so, AWCI might want to take a bit more of a stance against such worlds and enforcement of the world rating (including a way for kids to not simply change the rating!). :/

[View Quote] > I saw that on the news this mornin. Anyone know of a cit named Slave Master? *loads
> up aw and tries to add him to contax* Unless AWCI cancelled his citship, or he goes
> by a diff name on aw, the killer guy doesnt render among us. However, one of his
> many victims very well may have been.
>
> Enuff scary crap,
>
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Jun 10, 2000, 8:06pm

Well it was certainly bound to happen. but upon reading the article, if this man has
done this, he may have been killing long bfore the internet.
Its little surpass that predators of killing nature have found their way to the weak on
the Net.
Despite all the slag being slung at the Gor Worlds, i don't think this monster can be
accountable for all their acts.
The Gorean "way" might have just been the tool he needed to pray upon weaker or nieve
women.
AW allows ppl and the net at that, allows ppl to be whatever they want. In fact a
recent poll came up with that a good % of men liked to roll play as women.

we must all be wary, not paranoid, but watchful of who we meet, who we get to know.
Roll playing without knowing our "master" might be more dangerous than we know.

Play safe everyone

Z!


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> I saw that on the news this mornin. Anyone know of a cit named Slave Master? *loads
> up aw and tries to add him to contax* Unless AWCI cancelled his citship, or he goes
> by a diff name on aw, the killer guy doesnt render among us. However, one of his
> many victims very well may have been.
>
> Enuff scary crap,
> --Wing
> Citizen 305004
> Wing 'n Jess 4eva
>
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Jun 10, 2000, 8:31pm

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I read and found some articles on this subject by searching on GOOGLE.com and looking for
Kansas City newspapers.
it appears to be true, although i found No mention anywhere of AW specifically.
Also this person is in custody at this time.


[View Quote] > Well it was certainly bound to happen. but upon reading the article, if this man has
> done this, he may have been killing long bfore the internet.
> Its little surpass that predators of killing nature have found their way to the weak on
> the Net.
> Despite all the slag being slung at the Gor Worlds, i don't think this monster can be
> accountable for all their acts.
> The Gorean "way" might have just been the tool he needed to pray upon weaker or nieve
> women.
> AW allows ppl and the net at that, allows ppl to be whatever they want. In fact a
> recent poll came up with that a good % of men liked to roll play as women.
>
> we must all be wary, not paranoid, but watchful of who we meet, who we get to know.
> Roll playing without knowing our "master" might be more dangerous than we know.
>
> Play safe everyone
>
> Z!
>
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Jun 11, 2000, 12:29am

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[View Quote] > Well it was certainly bound to happen. but upon reading the article,

What article? Provide a source/reference!

> if this man has
> done this, he may have been killing long bfore the internet.
> Its little surpass that predators of killing nature have found their way to the weak on
> the Net.
> Despite all the slag being slung at the Gor Worlds, i don't think this monster can be
> accountable for all their acts.
> The Gorean "way" might have just been the tool he needed to pray upon weaker or nieve
> women.
> AW allows ppl and the net at that, allows ppl to be whatever they want. In fact a
> recent poll came up with that a good % of men liked to roll play as women.

Another unsupported claim...

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Jun 11, 2000, 7:44pm

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[View Quote] > Well it was certainly bound to happen. but upon reading the article,

What article? Provide a source/reference!

> if this man has
> done this, he may have been killing long bfore the internet.
> Its little surpass that predators of killing nature have found their way to the weak on
> the Net.
> Despite all the slag being slung at the Gor Worlds, i don't think this monster can be
> accountable for all their acts.
> The Gorean "way" might have just been the tool he needed to pray upon weaker or nieve
> women.
> AW allows ppl and the net at that, allows ppl to be whatever they want. In fact a
> recent poll came up with that a good % of men liked to roll play as women.

Another unsupported claim...

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Jun 11, 2000, 7:45pm

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WJZ (Baltimore's local division of CBS) originally reported it, got some more off MSNBC.com, and if i remember correctly, MSNBC named Activeworlds in the article.

[View Quote] > Can either of you (Wing and Irene) provide more info (what news, Wing? which newspaper, Irene? etc) as to where you heard/read about this? I would like to see if it's actually true. If so, AWCI might want to take a bit more of a stance against such worlds and enforcement of the world rating (including a way for kids to not simply change the rating!). :/
>
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Jun 11, 2000, 7:45pm

shhhesh y'all aint got research skills!

http://news.excite.com/news/ap/000610/11/barrel-bodies

One of many stories.
go to any Search engine and type in Kansas News.... and your bound to hit upon something.
Again as i mentioned above, no word on this person being part of AW.

Cheers
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Jun 11, 2000, 7:45pm

Well, although I still have no URL, Queen Bee emailed me with more info:

Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 20:18:20 -0700
From: Queen Bee <queenb at unforgettable.com>
To: Eep² <eep at tnlc.com>

I can't post in the ng, but here's the info you requested. I was at a public meeting in Gor
the other night, and the murdered girl (Suzette Trouten) went by the name of faithh in AW.
Several knew her in RL. Here is an excerpt from the chat, but Xav put the whole thing at :
http://members.aol.com/xavworld/index.htm/gortext.htm

"JJ": How do you know for sure that faithh is one of the murder victims? Did you know her R/L
name?
Seanchan: As I understand it, her name was in the Kansas City Star
"JJ": yes, her name was in the paper, but how do you know it was faithh? AWCOM credit card
records?
sarishia L0: so where would we begin protecting ourselves in this instance? also as for
faithh...she was on the local news here with her pic that was when sari told Master Ra Al and
he confirmed it was her pic and the next day her name was released...

Ra Al is one of the 'masters' of Gor and was faithh's online master. Weird stuff.

----

I just hope those Gor freaks clean up their act. I think AWCI should ban them from AW anyway. There is at least one adult universe (3D Sex Worlds or something) they can go play their sadistic fantasies in, but leave it OUT of AWCI's universe!

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Jun 11, 2000, 7:46pm

Hi everyone....

It's all
e:-((


There was a memorial in one of the GorWorlds around june 6th.

Check out these links:

Yahoo Full Coverage:

http://fullcoverage.yahoo.com/fc/US/Kansas_Killings/

Yahoo:
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20000606/wr/crime_murder_dc_1.html
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20000606/wr/crime_murder_dc_2.html
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20000608/wr/crime_murder_dc_3.html
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20000609/wr/crime_murder_dc_4.html
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20000610/us/barrel_bodies_1.html

msnbc:
http://www.msnbc.com/local/kshb/187352.asp

kshb:

http://www.kshb.com/Global/story.asp?s=85436
http://www.kshb.com/Global/story.asp?s=83928
http://www.kshb.com/Global/story.asp?s=84425
http://www.kshb.com/Global/story.asp?s=85775



Shekwan

Jun 11, 2000, 7:47pm

Sorry Eep, meant to post this here not send directly to you.

Hours of searching turned up the following links. Active Worlds is never
mention directly. The articles only refer to the alleged serial killer,
John Edward Robinson Sr, as having met women online then meeting them in
real life for sadomasochistic sex, that he frequented online chat rooms,
that his online name was Slavemaster and that he sometimes went by a alias
of James Turner.

The following link has several other links to stories written in the Kansas
City Star about Robinson and the current case against him. I think I've put
the most important information here in this post but if you want to see for
yourself follow the links. I warn you that it's a horrifying, unsettling,
and disgusting read. But it is a wake up call to be extremely careful who
you trust and how much information you give out to people online.

crey : (

Follow the links on this page for the whole story.
http://www.kcstar.com/standing/robinson/case.html



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Jun 11, 2000, 10:15pm

http://www.msnbc.com/local/kshb/187352.asp
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Morrison said Robinson had what he called "extensive" connections on the Internet, and said he was "active" in chat rooms, meaning
his alleged victims could be from just about anywhere.
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This what you mean? That doesn't name Activeworlds.

-Agent1

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Jun 12, 2000, 4:33am

Gor is far more prevelant on IRC than AW.

As I said before on this issue, Gorean roleplay and/or lifestyle is fine for
adults provided they know how and when to click the little black "x" in the
top right corner. I, like most, grieve and are shocked about the death of
faithh - but Gor did not kill her. An insane murderer killed her.

For many the Gorean way is their only escape to balance out their unbalanced
lives. Corporate directors in the real world can come be a virtual slave to
relieve their stress. Those with no position or no control in real life can
go to a Gor world and become a Master or Mistress. Personally I have found
that the Gorean community to be the most closely knit and friendly of all of
the AW communities. If nothing else, it is an interesting adventure into
human behaviour. I am not involved in their community because I prefer to
do other things, and also do not agree with some things about it. My
greatest disagreement is that those wishing to be "slaves" cannot "unslave"
themselves without their Master's permission, and there is no enforcable
appeal system.

When going to meet a person in real life that they met on the net, you
should take the minimal precaution of telling someone about it, and suggest
the other do the same. Better still, just don't meet.

Eep, to run an arguement of banning Gorean worlds because of one user's
death would be similar to running an arguement of banning "shoot 'em" games
because of school room shootings.

Regarding the X rating worlds, I don't see a need for change. Adults should
monitor their children on the internet, especially so with any chat
programs. Adults monitor users coming into Gorean worlds and take action
when underage users come in (sometimes they do this badly but that is a
policy matter for them to control).

Regards, Justin

Jun 12, 2000, 11:28am

[View Quote] > Eep, to run an arguement of banning Gorean worlds because of one user's
> death would be similar to running an arguement of banning "shoot 'em" games
> because of school room shootings.

I don't particularly like shooting games (especially mindless ones like Quake, Unreal, Kingpin, Soldier of Fortune, etc, etc, etc) that have WAY too much blood and gore. I think such games should be toned down and the game rating STRICTLY enforced by stores.

> Regarding the X rating worlds, I don't see a need for change. Adults should
> monitor their children on the internet, especially so with any chat
> programs. Adults monitor users coming into Gorean worlds and take action
> when underage users come in (sometimes they do this badly but that is a
> policy matter for them to control).

Adults can't monitor their children 24/7. A password-protected world rating setting and world rating enforcement by AWCI of Gor and other adult worlds has already been suggested by me to Lucrezia. If Goreans want to play adult fantasies they should get their own universe or something for it--perhaps even a galaxy server. I don't like seeing the amount of Gor worlds grow to equal and surpass that of Pokemon worlds (not that I like them much either, but at least they're the result of good marketing rather than the sexual frustration I would bet most Goreans suffer from).

The common theme here is rating enforcement. Game/world ratings are there for a purpose; it's like all the US gun laws that aren't enforced.

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<br>Eep, what's this?????... Coming from the guy that blew several fuses
because the PK's were/are ejecting people for swearing at GZ, whatever
happened to all of the freedoms you have banted about?&nbsp; Now you want
repression of the freedom to express yourself???? &lt;GASP>.&nbsp; Sorry
Eep you can't have it both ways.&nbsp; I would prefer that AW not try to
pass out moral judgments as to what theme a private world chooses.
<p>Terry
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<p>I just hope those Gor freaks clean up their act. I think AWCI should
ban them from AW anyway. There is at least one adult universe (3D Sex Worlds
or something) they can go play their sadistic fantasies in, but leave it
OUT of AWCI's universe!
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Jun 12, 2000, 6:39pm

I can say GOR is not for me. and as you say, "For many the Gorean way is their
only escape to balance out their unbalanced
lives. Corporate directors in the real world can come be a virtual slave to
relieve their stress"
This is the the part that , Some, and not All, but some take advantage of
people.
I dont know if this is the "balance" some ppl need in their lives. Or the
correct therapy for it.
As for "slaves" not being able to unslave themselves. In VR, this is reminicent
of being in the Hells Angels or MOB and not being able to leave.
I assume this means that if I wanted to leave GOR... I need permission... If I
am not granted said permission what happens?

I dont know, if ppl dont have "balance" they should seek counsel, not
Submission.

VR is proving itself in allot of areas, not just GOR as a place to be taken
advantage of.

I have already known of two "friends" who have faked deaths.

and i know this is NOT fake. But we need to be Aware.

Z!

[View Quote] > Gor is far more prevelant on IRC than AW.
>
> As I said before on this issue, Gorean roleplay and/or lifestyle is fine for
> adults provided they know how and when to click the little black "x" in the
> top right corner. I, like most, grieve and are shocked about the death of
> faithh - but Gor did not kill her. An insane murderer killed her.
>
> For many the Gorean way is their only escape to balance out their unbalanced
> lives. Corporate directors in the real world can come be a virtual slave to
> relieve their stress. Those with no position or no control in real life can
> go to a Gor world and become a Master or Mistress. Personally I have found
> that the Gorean community to be the most closely knit and friendly of all of
> the AW communities. If nothing else, it is an interesting adventure into
> human behaviour. I am not involved in their community because I prefer to
> do other things, and also do not agree with some things about it. My
> greatest disagreement is that those wishing to be "slaves" cannot "unslave"
> themselves without their Master's permission, and there is no enforcable
> appeal system.
>
> When going to meet a person in real life that they met on the net, you
> should take the minimal precaution of telling someone about it, and suggest
> the other do the same. Better still, just don't meet.
>
> Eep, to run an arguement of banning Gorean worlds because of one user's
> death would be similar to running an arguement of banning "shoot 'em" games
> because of school room shootings.
>
> Regarding the X rating worlds, I don't see a need for change. Adults should
> monitor their children on the internet, especially so with any chat
> programs. Adults monitor users coming into Gorean worlds and take action
> when underage users come in (sometimes they do this badly but that is a
> policy matter for them to control).
>
> Regards, Justin

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