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sweets

Nov 19, 2003, 2:32pm
I really thought the snake belonged to the medical people long before any
wars...in usa.....maybe am wrong
sweets G

linn ironhead@digitalpassage(dot)com

Nov 19, 2003, 2:36pm
when were there ever no wars in America?


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sweets

Nov 19, 2003, 2:53pm
USA is not that old.....Most Americans seem to think the world started when
it became a country LOL but most 'symbols' were already taken long before
USA even existed....
sweets G

light form

Nov 19, 2003, 4:09pm
My goodness...the wand carried by Hermes/Mercury having two serpents
entwined around it flanked by two wings is used as the medical insignia of
certain medical groups such as the U.S. Army Medical Corps. Even though it
is 'sometimes' used to symbol civilian medical practice, the staff of the
Roman god of medicine is usually used. Its considered more appropriate.
But...you can also say that the medical insignia comes from Biblical days
originating in Moses and the wandering Israelites days.

LF

brock

Nov 20, 2003, 3:52pm
Most Americans sweets? Most Americans? Do not judge all americans by this
buffoon. I will admit there are some Foolish Americans that others judge us
by. But you must consider, all of the 'americans' DID come from from other
cultures.

- B

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sweets

Nov 20, 2003, 7:25pm
you did notice I said 'most' and not 'all'.....and stand by my words *smiles
sweets G

lioness.

Nov 21, 2003, 3:46am
<----------confused...... please clarify something for me? You said
"Most Americans seem to think the world started when
it became a country" ....... So in other words THE WORLD became a
country? When did this happen? I'm an American and I never learned that in
history class. Are you American? Did you poll all those Americans? I don't
remember recieving my poll either. Maybe I live in the wrong section of the
world. (By the way, my ancestors were Native Americans, Germans, British,
Irish and Swiss and yes, the ones from Europe came here before 1776 and
fought during our Revolutionary War for America's Independence) Are there
any other "generalizations" about America or our World that I might have
missed? ;-"D


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carolann

Nov 21, 2003, 4:54am
Someone would have had to have gone to the school "the derek" (of the
following post; "nned people to fill this out") was talking about to think
that. One of the first things I remember learning about in school was the
"discovery" of America, the Pilgrims and the first Thanksgiving, the
Revolutionary War and everything about U.S. history and its pre-history.
Unless you meant that in a figurative sense, which isn't the implication I
saw, please back it up with your sources. I'd really be interested in
knowing where these people are who think the world in general didn't exist
before the U.S. did. (Unless they're under 5 or 6 maybe.) Remember, you did
say "most", and were willing to stand by your words.

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light form

Nov 21, 2003, 1:09pm
Most Americans wouldn't be too far off the mark either. Many/most of the
European countries we see today are younger (in the political sense) than
America (Germany, Italy, Austria, etc. and the Eastern ex-bloc countries).
Much of the Middle Eastern countries are 50 years or younger, and many
African countries also. So America as a country isn't so young as others
like to play. Americans as a people (identity) are quite young though.

LF

sweets

Nov 21, 2003, 3:25pm
Thanks Lightform, you said it the way I meant it.....I did not say what I
said to be attacked.....I said it as a general comment.....I do not come
into these discussions to argue which seems to be the thing most like to do
here.....I know Americans are very patriotic, and hate if anyone says
anything about them but I have never meant offense....I travel alot and do
meet many different cultures and have always loved americans because of
their 'hard headedness' LOL.....do not fault me for my beliefs, most of my
beliefs are from actually traveling 48 of the 50 states in a van, sleeping
in rest areas, meeting the people of the USA .....Americans do have an
'attitude' but that is not all bad.....we all need a little 'attitude' in
our lives.....Sorry people like Lioness and Carolann and a few others have
to take everything so litteraly as to attack my education or just open their
mouths to hear themselves talk ....I am educated in the ways of school and
the ways of life.....life being meetng people and getting to know different
cultures.....you Lightform seem to be the only one that caught the gist of
my message......and yes I DO HATE FIGHTING.....so this is last I will say on
this subject and Americans in general....since some Americans take offense
so easily and read things into letters that are not there.....
thank you
sweets G

light form

Nov 21, 2003, 3:52pm
I have a gift, what can I say ;)

We Americans are quick to fight (please, no comments about wars) when we
feel threatened. Sorry if some have offended =)


LF

carolann

Nov 21, 2003, 5:06pm
OK, that one you have right-I am hard headed on some subjects but I couldn't
let it go without saying, I was not attacking your education at all but that
of a person who would think the US was here before the rest of the world.
Didn't you see that? That's not what your point was I know. (Although your
statement was not at all like Lightform's-kind of the opposite.) If you DO
HATE FIGHTING, why say anything that might inflame? Did you not think it
might, saying "most Americans" about anything? I don't talk to hear myself
talk either, I want you to hear me and understand.

I also have thought before that I seem to open my virtual mouth all too
often here, mostly about things seemingly anti-American, but if you'd walk a
mile on my keyboard you'd see why. I started reading these newsgroups
because I have enjoyed AW for quite a few years and even used to spend way
more time than I had in it, but couldn't master the technical side of
it-still can't-and learned a lot in here. I had many friends of different
cultures who helped me there. Instead of things technical, I had worlds
where I and other people built and I had long standing conversational
relationships with them-not confrontational but always fun and satisfying.

Now I have less time, so when I have a chunk of time once a week or so I go
to the NG's to catch up. (or occasionally read them while I'm working on
"work" on my PC, shhhh) I read a lot more that helps me or I find
interesting but often am not knowledgeable enough to add to. I keep telling
myself I'm going to have more time "next week" but don't seem to find it.
Now, the part about "walking a mile..." Part of my work has allowed me (not
alone) to put a little stability into the lives of people who have come on
to hard times. A few-just a few-of these people are immigrants from several
countries. We don't ask if they have been nationalized before we help them.
If it's ever mentioned that they are from elsewhere it's because I enjoy a
good foreign accent. The most recent one was from Scotland. I see what
American's on a grass roots level can do for other Americans, and others. 80
% of the cash we raise is sent overseas. Do I feel bad when someone from one
of those countries slams us? Yes.

My work used to be through the church but it's on a wider scale now. So you
see, or maybe can understand, why I cannot just let it go if I see someone
knocking the church or people who believe in it-or my country-just because
it is the U.S (I don't recall of seeing the same about other countries
here-are they all 100% perfect? Isn't this strange?). If it was the
occasional remark-and sometimes was about someone else-I sure could live
with it. It's like being married I guess, you sure know your spouse or
significant other has faults but if your neighbor is always cutting on him,
what kind of a partner would you be if you never said a word in his defense,
whether you were in the work place or at a recreational facility? If nothing
said in here is inflammatory about you and yours, you can't possibly
understand.

In my r/l we rarely sit around talking about the US (except where our work
comes in), but if we do, we cover both sides, good and bad.

Interesting read, which I ran across looking up something totally unrelated:

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1018521/posts



[View Quote] > Thanks Lightform, you said it the way I meant it.....I did not say what I
> said to be attacked.....I said it as a general comment.....I do not come
> into these discussions to argue which seems to be the thing most like to
do
> here.....I know Americans are very patriotic, and hate if anyone says
> anything about them but I have never meant offense....I travel alot and do
> meet many different cultures and have always loved americans because of
> their 'hard headedness' LOL.....do not fault me for my beliefs, most of my
> beliefs are from actually traveling 48 of the 50 states in a van, sleeping
> in rest areas, meeting the people of the USA .....Americans do have an
> 'attitude' but that is not all bad.....we all need a little 'attitude' in
> our lives.....Sorry people like Lioness and Carolann and a few others have
> to take everything so litteraly as to attack my education or just open
their
> mouths to hear themselves talk ....I am educated in the ways of school and
> the ways of life.....life being meetng people and getting to know
different
> cultures.....you Lightform seem to be the only one that caught the gist of
> my message......and yes I DO HATE FIGHTING.....so this is last I will say
on
> this subject and Americans in general....since some Americans take offense
> so easily and read things into letters that are not there.....
> thank you
> sweets G
>
>

carolann

Nov 21, 2003, 5:08pm
Yep-it was a fantastic reply :-) Wish I would have thought of it. It was
sooo much shorter than mine.
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sweets

Nov 21, 2003, 5:11pm
*mutes carolann

sweets G

carolann

Nov 21, 2003, 5:24pm
Sure, (pretend to) mute me after presenting your point but not also
listening to mine-what does that tell me? But knowing you really will read
it is enough for me.
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