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Jul 13, 2003, 6:25pm

Whenever im reading the newsgroups, sometimes it takes so damn long to get a
post.. It's starting to piss me off. Any ideas what this bugger is?

Jul 13, 2003, 6:29pm

Called Microsoft, it's this annoying bug noone can see to squash.
--
-Miek Zimmer
*Mike

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Jul 13, 2003, 6:35pm

In article <3f11c134$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com>, mike at remmiz.com says...
> Called Microsoft, it's this annoying bug noone can see to squash.
>

Microplanet Gravity has the same problem, it's not a client bug...more like a
server config or network issue. Maybe if ENZO cleans up the last two months
posts it will be faster :)

--
../B

Jul 13, 2003, 6:47pm

hmmmm.. *starts to get ready to protest outside of AW's offices*

Jul 13, 2003, 6:56pm

I higly doubt that it is an Outlook bug this time,
it happens to me on this particular news server all
the time.

Happened on my old machine with NetScape, Opera and
FAgent and on my new one with Mozilla as well.

The response times of this server are up to 30 sec
and sometimes the connection even times out.


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Jul 13, 2003, 7:46pm

Maybe it's a router problem at one of the mains?

http://www.internettrafficreport.com/namerica.htm



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Jul 13, 2003, 11:14pm

Probally, im sick of it.

Jul 14, 2003, 1:00am

[View Quote] > I higly doubt that it is an Outlook bug this time,
> it happens to me on this particular news server all
> the time.
>
> Happened on my old machine with NetScape, Opera and
> FAgent and on my new one with Mozilla as well.
>
> The response times of this server are up to 30 sec
> and sometimes the connection even times out.
>
>
>

Would be interesting to know if you have the same trouble with news.andras.net. Both uses the same news server program but I can't tell if my one experiences the same problem being a local address :)
I guess it is something to do with the authorization process - tho the reading doesn't requires authentication.


--
Andras
"It's MY computer" (tm Steve Gibson)

Jul 14, 2003, 8:44am

Nope, no trouble there at all, the response time
is less than a second on your server.

The problem with news.activeworlds.com is not new,
I don't think it is a temporary router problem.
The server is slow for several months now.

1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms barricade [192.168.2.1]
2 47 ms 62 ms 47 ms 217.5.98.xx
3 47 ms 62 ms 47 ms 217.237.153.190
4 141 ms 141 ms 156 ms WAS-E4.WAS.US.NET.DTAG.DE [62.154.14.134]
5 141 ms 141 ms 156 ms 62.156.138.210
6 141 ms 140 ms 156 ms bpr2-ae0.VirginiaEquinix.cw.net [208.173.50.253]
7 140 ms 156 ms 141 ms acr2-as0-0.Restonrst.cw.net [206.24.179.49]
8 156 ms 157 ms 172 ms acr2-loopback.Boston.cw.net [208.172.50.62]
9 156 ms 157 ms 156 ms internap.Boston.cw.net [208.172.49.138]
10 156 ms 156 ms 157 ms border7.ge1-2-bbnet2.bsn.pnap.net [63.251.128.76]
11 156 ms 157 ms 156 ms border14.ge4-1.bos.bsn-1.bos.pnap.net [216.52.63.225]
12 156 ms 156 ms 157 ms border1.fe6-0-fenet2.bos.pnap.net [216.52.63.68]
13 156 ms 157 ms 171 ms news.activeworlds.com [64.94.241.201]

vs.

1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms barricade [192.168.2.1]
2 46 ms 63 ms 47 ms 217.5.98.xx
3 47 ms 47 ms 62 ms 217.237.153.190
4 47 ms 63 ms 62 ms 62.154.32.138
5 47 ms 62 ms 63 ms hbg-b1-pos4-2.telia.net [213.248.103.233]
6 47 ms 62 ms 63 ms hbg-bb1-pos3-1-0.telia.net [213.248.65.45]
7 63 ms 62 ms 63 ms ffm-bb1-pos0-2-0.telia.net [213.248.64.213]
8 62 ms 63 ms 62 ms ffm-b1-pos3-1.telia.net [213.248.68.10]
9 94 ms 78 ms 94 ms pantel-01946-ffm-b1.c.telia.net [213.248.79.134]
10 94 ms 94 ms 93 ms ge0-1-0-20.bud1corej1.pantel.net [212.24.164.146]
11 94 ms 93 ms 94 ms banknet-gw.pantel.net [212.24.161.186]
12 94 ms 94 ms 93 ms 193.131.103.134
13 94 ms 110 ms 109 ms storage-gw.banknet.net [193.131.103.21]
14 94 ms 109 ms 110 ms www.storage.co.hu [194.152.129.221]

not enough difference to explain the bad response times


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Jul 14, 2003, 10:44am

> The server is slow for several months now.

It appears to me rather that the server thread sometimes is stuck or
needs a lot of time to reverse dns, since after the initial waiting
period, it responds quite fast then.

4 7 ms 8 ms 10 ms hsa1.dus1.gig9-0.118.eu.level3.net
[62.67.36.77]
5 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms ae0-20.mp2.Dusseldorf1.Level3.net
[195.122.168.2
02]
6 21 ms 19 ms 18 ms so-0-0-0.mp2.London1.Level3.net
[212.187.128.25]
7 84 ms 85 ms 84 ms so-1-0-0.bbr2.NewYork1.level3.net
[212.187.128.1
53]
8 90 ms 91 ms 91 ms so-0-1-0.mp2.Boston1.Level3.net
[209.247.9.126]
9 91 ms 90 ms 91 ms gige11-0.hsa1.Boston1.Level3.net
[64.159.3.142]
10 90 ms 91 ms 96 ms unknown.Level3.net [63.211.175.26]
11 91 ms 91 ms 91 ms border7.ge1-1-bbnet1.bsn.pnap.net
[63.251.128.12
]
12 91 ms 90 ms 92 ms border14.ge4-1.bos.bsn-1.bos.pnap.net
[216.52.63
..225]
13 91 ms 90 ms 90 ms border1.fe6-0-fenet2.bos.pnap.net
[216.52.63.68]
14 92 ms 92 ms 90 ms news.activeworlds.com [64.94.241.201]

------------

4 7 ms 9 ms 9 ms hsa1.dus1.gig9-0.118.eu.level3.net
[62.67.36.77]
5 8 ms 8 ms 9 ms ae0-15.mp1.Dusseldorf1.Level3.net
[195.122.168.1
61]
6 11 ms 12 ms 12 ms so-2-0-0.mp2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net
[212.187.128.
97]
7 12 ms 13 ms 13 ms gige6-1.core2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net
[195.122.136
..86]
8 13 ms 13 ms 12 ms Telia-Level3.level3.net
[195.122.136.250]
9 13 ms 12 ms 12 ms ffm-b1-pos3-0.telia.net [213.248.68.169]
10 41 ms 42 ms 41 ms pantel-01946-ffm-b1.c.telia.net
[213.248.79.134]
11 40 ms 39 ms 39 ms ge0-1-0-20.bud1corej1.pantel.net
[212.24.164.146
]
12 40 ms 42 ms 42 ms banknet-gw.pantel.net [212.24.161.186]
13 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms 193.131.103.134
14 54 ms 52 ms 52 ms storage-gw.banknet.net [193.131.103.21]




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Jul 14, 2003, 12:40pm

I would say don't use Outlook or Outlook Express, but in this case, I'm
getting the same "hangs" or "pauses" to the NG's just like everyone
else. Maybe the AW news server does a reverse DNS lookup at random times
(this can take time, as some FTP servers do this as well)? I know they
used to use the BlackICE firewall in the past on the news server, maybe
they misconfigured something with that? Whatever it is, I think it
should be looked into.

Builderz
http://www.3dhost.net

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Jul 14, 2003, 3:24pm

Yes I think this makes sense, because it happens to me only when I click on
a thread, and it happens randomly.

-Weizer
"kf" <none at junk.mail> a écrit dans le message de news:
3F12A4AB.1EC1 at junk.mail...
>
> It appears to me rather that the server thread sometimes is stuck or
> needs a lot of time to reverse dns, since after the initial waiting
> period, it responds quite fast then.
>
> 4 7 ms 8 ms 10 ms hsa1.dus1.gig9-0.118.eu.level3.net
> [62.67.36.77]
> 5 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms ae0-20.mp2.Dusseldorf1.Level3.net
> [195.122.168.2
> 02]
> 6 21 ms 19 ms 18 ms so-0-0-0.mp2.London1.Level3.net
> [212.187.128.25]
> 7 84 ms 85 ms 84 ms so-1-0-0.bbr2.NewYork1.level3.net
> [212.187.128.1
> 53]
> 8 90 ms 91 ms 91 ms so-0-1-0.mp2.Boston1.Level3.net
> [209.247.9.126]
> 9 91 ms 90 ms 91 ms gige11-0.hsa1.Boston1.Level3.net
> [64.159.3.142]
> 10 90 ms 91 ms 96 ms unknown.Level3.net [63.211.175.26]
> 11 91 ms 91 ms 91 ms border7.ge1-1-bbnet1.bsn.pnap.net
> [63.251.128.12
> ]
> 12 91 ms 90 ms 92 ms border14.ge4-1.bos.bsn-1.bos.pnap.net
> [216.52.63
> .225]
> 13 91 ms 90 ms 90 ms border1.fe6-0-fenet2.bos.pnap.net
> [216.52.63.68]
> 14 92 ms 92 ms 90 ms news.activeworlds.com [64.94.241.201]
>
> ------------
>
> 4 7 ms 9 ms 9 ms hsa1.dus1.gig9-0.118.eu.level3.net
> [62.67.36.77]
> 5 8 ms 8 ms 9 ms ae0-15.mp1.Dusseldorf1.Level3.net
> [195.122.168.1
> 61]
> 6 11 ms 12 ms 12 ms so-2-0-0.mp2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net
> [212.187.128.
> 97]
> 7 12 ms 13 ms 13 ms gige6-1.core2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net
> [195.122.136
> .86]
> 8 13 ms 13 ms 12 ms Telia-Level3.level3.net
> [195.122.136.250]
> 9 13 ms 12 ms 12 ms ffm-b1-pos3-0.telia.net [213.248.68.169]
> 10 41 ms 42 ms 41 ms pantel-01946-ffm-b1.c.telia.net
> [213.248.79.134]
> 11 40 ms 39 ms 39 ms ge0-1-0-20.bud1corej1.pantel.net
> [212.24.164.146
> ]
> 12 40 ms 42 ms 42 ms banknet-gw.pantel.net [212.24.161.186]
> 13 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms 193.131.103.134
> 14 54 ms 52 ms 52 ms storage-gw.banknet.net [193.131.103.21]
>
>
>
>
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Jul 15, 2003, 3:55pm

I think its related to the auth setup we use. The news server spawns an SDK
app that auths your username in the AW universe. If you have the status bar
showing you will see that it shows "Authorizing" for awhile. Try not using a
user name and password and reading threads to see if it makes a difference.
Of course you will not be able to post while you are in this state so you
will have to change the setting to reply :)

Bill

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Jul 15, 2003, 5:23pm

*Mumble*

Jul 15, 2003, 8:34pm

What about caching the password settings?

New request to the AW uniserver only when
- someone makes his first posting
- the cached password does not match the given password


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Jul 16, 2003, 12:54pm

I have changed the password cache. Lets see if it helps.

Bill

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Jul 16, 2003, 1:33pm

It still stays in the 'Connected' state for some time sometimes.

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Jul 16, 2003, 3:00pm

yup, no change to before





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Jul 16, 2003, 3:22pm

Test

Jul 16, 2003, 3:22pm

first test replied very quick

Jul 16, 2003, 3:22pm

looks fine so far

Jul 16, 2003, 3:23pm

hm, to me the problem seems to be solved

Jul 16, 2003, 4:28pm

Yep, it is definitely fixed for me :)


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Jul 16, 2003, 5:07pm

Not here, but it isn't occouring like before. It's a bit faster now, but
still occours once in a while.

Jul 16, 2003, 5:51pm

I concur still happening for me,........and it's BEFORE the "connecting..." and "authorizing" stages...:) In OE I might add......but this is a server problem. Never does this for all the other newsgroups I read.

Yes it does seem better and a little faster but still hangs regularly.

Leo :)


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Jul 16, 2003, 6:11pm

I agree. :)

Jul 16, 2003, 6:22pm

I also agree. It's still long but a bit faster.

-Weizer
"themask" <admin at themask.3dhost.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
3f15b187$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I agree. :)
>
>

Jul 17, 2003, 2:06pm

[View Quote] Does not seem to hang for me anymore :) (OE6)

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Mauz
http://mauz.info

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