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help? :-\ // General DiscussiondionAug 6, 2002, 8:24pm
I just formatted my computer and forgot to save my e-mails. I assume that
the e-mails are kept on the pop3 e-mail server I use so how do I synchronize my Inbox with those? -Dion anduinAug 6, 2002, 9:28pm
In a galaxy far far away, known as general.discussion, an identity
claiming to be known as "dion" <Dion at digevo.net> scribed the following: >I just formatted my computer and forgot to save my e-mails. I assume that >the e-mails are kept on the pop3 e-mail server I use so how do I synchronize >my Inbox with those? It depends if you had set your settings correctly in your Outlook Express, which I noticed you are using. Firstly, you want to go to 'Tool ==> Accounts', you go to your account and choose the tab called 'Advanced'; You'll see down the bottom that there is an option saying 'Leave a copy of messages on server' and you can set for so many days and so on. If this option wasn't set BEFORE your format and BEFORE downloading all those old messages, none are left on your ISP's server I'm sorry to say. ,,,,, (o o) /--------------ooO--(_)--Ooo--------------\ | Anduin (317281) | | o The Gorean Scribe | | o http://www.anduin-lothario.com | | o World: GorSJ (18+ Only) | \--------------ooO-------Ooo--------------/ goober kingAug 6, 2002, 9:55pm
They're only saved if you tell your email program to leave the messages
on the server. Otherwise, as soon as you click to view the message, it downloads it off the server, puts it on your HD, and removes it from the server. :-/ Now, if you were on an I-MAP server, it'd be a different story... [View Quote] > I just formatted my computer and forgot to save my e-mails. I assume that > the e-mails are kept on the pop3 e-mail server I use so how do I synchronize > my Inbox with those? > > -Dion > > > -- Goober King POP3 goes the e-mail! robrod at prism.net dionAug 6, 2002, 10:15pm
Alright, I made a boo-boo. I hadn't had that option that Anduin explained
enabled because I didn't know it existed. All my e-mails are poof, but I have a chance of getting them back if by some stroke of luck, nothing I installed overwrote them since I did a simple reformat without completely removing the files from my HDD. I'm looking for a program that will search my HDD for the files but am having a bit of a problem finding something. Does anyone know where I can find one? [View Quote] dionAug 6, 2002, 10:52pm
I reformatted so unfortunately it's not as easy as that. The files I am
looking for have been deleted as far as Windows is concerned. [View Quote] alphabit phalphaAug 6, 2002, 11:10pm
Maybe there is a dos command?
Some ISP's also have a way of retrieving lost info or deleted info on HD's sometimes. dionAug 6, 2002, 11:12pm
I don't think DOS knows any files in actualy characters, they're all by
index numbers or some load of crap. LOL. I am using a program now that has recovered a lot of crap, I'm in the process of looking for the file though and it seems that there's a LOT of *.eml files. [View Quote] bowenAug 6, 2002, 11:38pm
DOS understands filenames. That's why windows pre95 had the 8 character
limit on filenames... --Bowen-- [View Quote] jermeAug 7, 2002, 1:02am
Windows pre 95 was just a wrapper... The bios started DOS, and dos started
windows... windows passed all the commands though to dos. Newer versions of Windows aren't based off of DOS. Now you need a boot disk to get to just DOS. Windows now only supports the command line... -Jeremy -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jeremy Booker - Owner JTech Web Systems www.JTechWebSystems.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." -Mathew 5-34 [View Quote] bowenAug 7, 2002, 1:47am
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Yeah, that's how it worked.
> Newer versions of Windows aren't based off of DOS. Now you need a boot disk > to get to just DOS. Windows now only supports the command line... Still based on DOS code, it just doesn't use the standard interface for it. Unless they went to rewrite the kernel from scratch (which they obviously would never do until they absolutely needed it *cough*64bitwindows*cough*). They add and subtract things from their kernel since Windows95, that's why there's so many errors with kernel32.dll. --Bowen-- bowenAug 7, 2002, 2:48am
> NT != Dos based.
LoL well, NT was based off of 3.11 which was based off of 3.1 which was a DOS shell. --Bowen-- anduinAug 7, 2002, 2:54am
In a galaxy far far away, known as general.discussion, an identity
claiming to be known as "dion" <Dion at digevo.net> scribed the following: >Alright, I made a boo-boo. I hadn't had that option that Anduin explained >enabled because I didn't know it existed. All my e-mails are poof, but I >have a chance of getting them back if by some stroke of luck, nothing I >installed overwrote them since I did a simple reformat without completely >removing the files from my HDD. I'm looking for a program that will search >my HDD for the files but am having a bit of a problem finding something. >Does anyone know where I can find one? http://www.bitmart.net/r2k.htm That's if you've got NTFS file format, Windows 2000/XP... You might try searching www.google.com for 'Unerase' or something. That might help, though I'm not sure, I've never had to use anything like this myself. ,,,,, (o o) /--------------ooO--(_)--Ooo--------------\ | Anduin (317281) | | o The Gorean Scribe | | o http://www.anduin-lothario.com | | o World: GorSJ (18+ Only) | \--------------ooO-------Ooo--------------/ ananasAug 7, 2002, 2:59am
NT doesn't boot through DOS. Not sure about NT3.5 (I never had
that), but NT4 boots a kernel that is mostly 32-bit and not DOS based at all. It includes a DOS emulation and a 32-Bit console program that behaves like DOS. All 16-Bit DOS programs are executed by the emulation and 16-bit windows programs each have their own virtual machine. For NT they took several ideas from Unix and implemented them, or at least tried to *g Win95 (which was based on 3.11) boots a DOS with some 32-Bit extensions and then boots the "kernel" from there. I think you mixed those two up. [View Quote] bowenAug 7, 2002, 3:17am
> NT doesn't boot through DOS. Not sure about NT3.5 (I never had
> that), but NT4 boots a kernel that is mostly 32-bit and not DOS > based at all. It includes a DOS emulation and a 32-Bit console > program that behaves like DOS. All 16-Bit DOS programs are > executed by the emulation and 16-bit windows programs each have > their own virtual machine. > For NT they took several ideas from Unix and implemented them, > or at least tried to *g Yeah I think 3.5 was based really a lot on 3.11 so it basically used Dos. I would imagein NT used that, they put in BSD code in XP. That's probably why it's better at not crashing. > Win95 (which was based on 3.11) boots a DOS with some 32-Bit > extensions and then boots the "kernel" from there. I think you > mixed those two up. Isn't that what I said? It's late. 3.1(1) is a dork to keep track of. --Bowen-- dionAug 7, 2002, 4:18am
Ok. A lot of work, agony, and 7 hours later, I have managed to retrieve my
dbx files that hold all of my e-mail messages within them. I tried to simply replace the ones I had now (currently empty) with them and OE simply recreated them as 'Inbox (1).dbx' and such. Does anyone have any idea how the heck you're supposed to import dbx files? [View Quote] chazradAug 7, 2002, 5:08am
> For NT they took several ideas from Unix and implemented them,
> or at least tried to *g Always thought they stole most of NT from IBM in their 'joint' OS/2 project? d a nAug 7, 2002, 7:05am
bowenAug 7, 2002, 3:16pm
> Always thought they stole most of NT from IBM in their 'joint' OS/2
> project? LoL Microsoft steals everything from everybody. Weren't win3.1 and win95 based on 2 of the mac versions? Then so was XP (kind of based on OSX). They usually just steal bits and pieces of other OS's and jam them in there. --Bowen-- chazradAug 7, 2002, 3:42pm
"bowen" <thisguyisashimmyritzer at 7k2.4mg.com> wrote in
news:3d5155df$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com: > > LoL Microsoft steals everything from everybody. Weren't win3.1 and > win95 based on 2 of the mac versions? Then so was XP (kind of based > on OSX). They usually just steal bits and pieces of other OS's and jam > them in there. > > --Bowen-- > > > i still miss OS/2 :( The fight they had to keep the win 3.1 box alive. it was always great to see how the programmers at MS where trying to make the win box/OS/2 fail and how the IBM programmers managed to make it work again. I still admire them (IBM) for managing to run win 3.1 as a DPMI client while at the same time win 3.1 only wanted to be DPMI host... I still hate them (IBM) for throwing the towel though. I will never buy IBM's products again after selling out in such a big way. Not even hardware (which was crappy at best :) Oh well the good old days... Now we are stuck with it by our own complacency ananasAug 7, 2002, 4:14pm
Lisa was the first PC you could actually buy that had a
xerographic GUI (invented by Xerox). It was the missing link between the Apple II and the Mac. But a GUI is not what I ment when I mentioned the Unix concepts, I ment the way the operating system layers work together. OS/2 is (from its basic concept) way closer to Unix than Win3.x (or Win9x) ever was, so I couldn't really tell where they got the idea. But as they partially use the syntax of Unix and copied several standard Unix tools (command line!) I assumed they took it from there. Microsoft has damaged a lot of other developements in a quite criminal way, like adding code to Win3.x so it didn't work with Digital Research's DOS. So IBM wasn't the first victim. But I'm quite sure that the IBM people did similar things to other companies, so I don't feel too sorry for them *g But if I recall right, M$ and IBM started OS/2 together, so maybe M$ legally owned parts of the project. [View Quote] baronAug 7, 2002, 5:46pm
Get the files you retrieved in another folder and then File > Import > Messages >OE6>Import from an OE6 store directory. If it's not corrupted it should import fine. Btw I noticed a lot of incorrect information lately in the NGs regarding the folder OE stores its DB files. The store folder depends on the OS version and language, in any case you can see your store folder in Tools/Options/Maintenance/Store folder.
-Baron [View Quote] dionAug 7, 2002, 6:38pm
Yep, I just right-clicked inbox and clicked properties and it told me. I
suppose my DBX files are corrupt then? :-\ The error says they aren't DBX files or another application is using them. :-( [View Quote] baronAug 7, 2002, 6:53pm
Do not browse to your store folder to import, obviously the dbx there is in use by the current OE instance. Copy the file you want to import elsewhere and browse to it using the import dialog.
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