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May 23, 2002, 7:23pm

I must keep up with the newsgroups, haven't been checking them for awhile
now....100-123 messages in community and general lol :)

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maki [sonystyle]

May 23, 2002, 11:42pm

In a galaxy far far away, known as general.discussion, an identify
claiming to be known as "maki" <sonystylex at msn.com> scribed the
following:
>I must keep up with the newsgroups, haven't been checking them for awhile
>now....100-123 messages in community and general lol :)

You also replied to a post from the year 2001...

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May 23, 2002, 11:58pm

Ya a Commie post by Commie of SW

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May 24, 2002, 7:34pm

Anudin, tsk tsk tsk at Posting that link in your signiture.... I really hope
most of that site is not actually true.

Anyhow, please dont post such things, Ull scare the hell outta people like
CarlBanks (and Rick and JP)

-Mark
*Nothing against Gorean but needs to protect the less mature*

May 24, 2002, 7:36pm

*notices the slave page says no nudity yet has a naked woman on it* A bit
hypocritical don't you think?

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May 24, 2002, 8:08pm

Yeah, That stuff aint too appropriate for here where there's kids.......
:O(

JB

May 25, 2002, 12:28am

In a galaxy far far away, known as general.discussion, an identify
claiming to be known as "johnny b" <uniquect at optonline.net> scribed
the following:
>Yeah, That stuff aint too appropriate for here where there's kids.......
>:O(
>
>JB
>

The picture is art, it's not a photo. What is the world coming too
people?

Never see a woman's breasts drawn in pencil?

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May 25, 2002, 1:09am

Still nudity none-the-less. I've seen breasts yes, but children haven't,
and you need to protect the children. There's probably worse stuff in links
and sigs all over AW but yours was the only one I saw recently :(

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May 25, 2002, 1:18am

Why does he need to protect the children? The children aren't his
responsibility, that falls on the children's parents. It's not his fault
if children stumble upon his site and see something that is offensive to
them. It's not as if he's saying "Hey kids! Check out my site! Fun for
the whole family!" The site is tailored for his target audience, and
children are not that audience so they won't like/understand what they
see there. Again, that's not Anduin's fault.

[View Quote] > Still nudity none-the-less. I've seen breasts yes, but children haven't,
> and you need to protect the children. There's probably worse stuff in links
> and sigs all over AW but yours was the only one I saw recently :(
>
> --Bowen--
>
> Have $3... want a website?
> http://www.smartpenguin.com/affiliate.php?id=12
>
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what I say?... Fuck the children!" - George Carlin
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May 25, 2002, 1:47am

In a galaxy far far away, known as general.discussion, an identify
claiming to be known as "silenced" <nospam at privacy.com> scribed the
following:
>Still nudity none-the-less. I've seen breasts yes, but children haven't,
>and you need to protect the children. There's probably worse stuff in links
>and sigs all over AW but yours was the only one I saw recently :(

You are saying that children these days are not breast fed?

It is not offensive material on my website, not the way I see it. That
picture is plain art which even children would see in a museum or
walking down the street passing a satue of a beautiful woman. Or even
a statue of a boy holding his penis and doing are piss. I don't know
what you see so offensive here. I've made the site specifically so
that any age can accidently bump into my site without seeing something
that would offend them in a way that it would alter their minds.

If someone doesn't like the site, they simply close it. If a parent
comes accross it and doesn't like it, they restrict it. I've listed my
site on the child protection programs, so that parents who do install
protection programs can choose to disable it or not. Even though, it
wasn't even rated as 18+ only.

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| o It wasn't me, it was the one I'm in! |
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May 25, 2002, 5:21am

Well it doesn't need to be in his sig for the activeworlds newsgroups since
this is used by children. I've met some pretty ignorant people, but this
takes the cake. How could you not see how see that? At least I'm not
attacking the freaking gor part of it, and that it says "Slaves." What kind
of image is this in general?

Hey if you're going to attack me too for caring, I might as well have
multiple points for what I'm saying.

--Bowen--

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May 25, 2002, 5:27am

What about the children that aren't breast fed?

Omfg.. not alter their minds? When they see slaves and see the part that
says "my slaves," they might also start thinking it's ok to mistreat others.
Or to enslave women. Some people are like that you know, not everyone was
raised to not believe everything they read.

Of course it's not offensive to you, you made it, and you partake in it.

Fine, I give up, I just don't realize why you can't disable it for >these<
newsgroups. A few clicks and you're done, no more fuss, no more worry, no
more indecent exposure, yadda yadda yadda, blah blah blah. Since you don't
care and it shows, no matter what I say, you wouldn't change it. Ignorance
is bliss I suppose.

--Bowen--

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May 25, 2002, 5:34am

In a galaxy far far away, known as general.discussion, an identify
claiming to be known as "silenced" <nospam at privacy.com> scribed the
following:
>Well it doesn't need to be in his sig for the activeworlds newsgroups since
>this is used by children. I've met some pretty ignorant people, but this
>takes the cake. How could you not see how see that? At least I'm not
>attacking the freaking gor part of it, and that it says "Slaves." What kind
>of image is this in general?

I do as I please.

Do not disrespect me because I happen to have a "slave" link on my
domain because I happen to be interested in such a lifestyle in my
every day life. To each his own.

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| o The Gorean Scribe |
| o http://www.anduin-lothario.com |
| o It wasn't me, it was the one I'm in! |
\--------------ooO-------Ooo--------------/

May 25, 2002, 5:47am

In a galaxy far far away, known as general.discussion, an identify
claiming to be known as "silenced" <nospam at privacy.com> scribed the
following:
>What about the children that aren't breast fed?

What about them?

>Omfg.. not alter their minds? When they see slaves and see the part that
>says "my slaves," they might also start thinking it's ok to mistreat others.
>Or to enslave women. Some people are like that you know, not everyone was
>raised to not believe everything they read.

I don't enslave women, lol. I don't mistreat others either, I look at
women in the highest respect, and I treat them in such as long as I
get that in return also. Goreans give girls that act in manners of
slaves, the title of slave. Technically put though, these women are
'submissive', I really wish people would stop getting them both
confused. Slavery is illegal in this day and age, at-least in my
country it is. These women wish to protray themselves as such, they
enjoy behaving in such manner, they enjoy showing their beauty in all
ways possible, to please the eyes of those interested. They enjoy
being controlled by men who can.

>Of course it's not offensive to you, you made it, and you partake in it.

If you are offended, place me on your killfiles, it is my way of life.
I would not go off at anyone for posting a link for their beliefs in
'god' and 'satan'. It is my way of life, I enjoy it, some call me a
fool, but they are seen as that in return.

>Fine, I give up, I just don't realize why you can't disable it for >these<
>newsgroups. A few clicks and you're done, no more fuss, no more worry, no
>more indecent exposure, yadda yadda yadda, blah blah blah. Since you don't
>care and it shows, no matter what I say, you wouldn't change it. Ignorance
>is bliss I suppose.

Because I have every right to have my domain linked to my signature,
no matter which news servers I may be connected to; there are always
children on all parts of the internet. It is up to the parents to
disable sites that may for some reason offend them or are worried
about their children visiting.

Titanic was rated PG, I mean? What? You don't see the main actor
stripping completely nude and being drawn on paper as art? You don't
see the scene where they are having sex in the car, the windows fogged
up, her hand sliding down the window. What image does that give to
children? If they don't like it, they turn their heads to the side and
don't look at it. Or their parents say 'turn around' until the scene
has past?

Also, there is no indecent exposure on my domain.

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| o The Gorean Scribe |
| o http://www.anduin-lothario.com |
| o It wasn't me, it was the one I'm in! |
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May 25, 2002, 8:34am

Well full slavery is a crime against humanity in pritty much every developed
country, I will not comment on if i like or condem your way off life, thats
for every individual person to decide from themself.. all im saying is plese
dont includ it in your signiture. There is enough harse feelings towards the
goreans as it is, its not suitable to put it on the NG as well. As for the
point about it being the parents responcability. A parent can not supervise
everything a child does, and nothing ive seen protects children
automatically for things such as gorean pages that may contain harmfull text
or material.

Now i fully understand what you mean about not being slaves just being
submissive as such, If they are free to change their lifestyle where and how
they see fit and they are not misstreated in any way whatsoever I have no
problem at all with it.

On the point of the picture, yes, it is art. Ive seen far more graphical, if
it were a photo ud be booted of the NG by AWC so fast for advertising
pornography you wouldent have chance to see the insults youd get on here.

All i (and i believe most others) are that you do not display that link, I
doubt anyone has a problem with your title, but the link is a direct portal
to a way off ilfe that would scare the hell out of most kids who dont have
the maturity to deal with it in a proper manner. SO i ask you with the
utmost respect, please can you not include that in your signiture for the
good of those who cant handle it :)

- Mark

May 25, 2002, 11:24am

Last I checked, this was a general.discussion newsgroup. If he has no
"right" or "priviledge" to post a link to his website in THIS newsgroup at
least, then please inform me to what he is entitled to. Everyone put
themselves in this newsgroup with full awareness that anything goes, hence
why this group was created. I've seen MUCH worse out text postings around
here (not this thread specifically, but elsewhere), than I do one webpage
with a sketch of a naked woman on it. Even AW's texture path has a picture
of a naked woman. As for the whole slave aspect, one can find worse
listening to modern music. Anduin doesn't swear or cuss on the site, and
he's providing a service to Goreans. He's apparently taken the measures to
prevent as much contact with children as possible, it's up to parents to do
the rest. I'm assuming you're talking about 6-10 year old kids, since the
majority of us here are 11-21 year olds. If you "kids" are seeing it, isn't
that something to be said? What did you guys do once you saw it and was
offended? You closed it. That's the same for any book, email, or anything.
If a kid wants to snoop around the site, and he's able to, then let him/her.
The only reason he'd be able to is if his parents had let him by not
watching what he views. But even that totally exceeds the point that this is
a GENERAL DISCUSSION newsgroup. Anduin is welcome to post his links, you're
welcome to be offended, but I don't think anyone is in a position to tell
him NOT to continue posting the link. In fact, this newsgroup was kind of
created for Anduin, you can say, because he wasn't, and still probably
isn't, allowed to discuss this in community, where it is moderated, if not
by Flagg, by the posters themselves.

Nornny

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May 25, 2002, 11:36am

> Last I checked, this was a general.discussion newsgroup. If he has no
> "right" or "priviledge" to post a link to his website in THIS newsgroup at
> least, then please inform me to what he is entitled to.

Well, that said, what about posts to the other newsgroups?

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May 25, 2002, 11:38am

In a galaxy far far away, known as general.discussion, an identify
claiming to be known as "strike rapier"
<strike at rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> scribed the following:

>All i (and i believe most others) are that you do not display that link, I
>doubt anyone has a problem with your title, but the link is a direct portal
>to a way off ilfe that would scare the hell out of most kids who dont have
>the maturity to deal with it in a proper manner. SO i ask you with the
>utmost respect, please can you not include that in your signiture for the
>good of those who cant handle it :)

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May 25, 2002, 11:46am

In a galaxy far far away, known as general.discussion, an identify
claiming to be known as "silenced" <nospam at privacy.com> scribed the
following:
>
>Well, that said, what about posts to the other newsgroups?
>
>--Bowen--
>
>Have $3... want a website?
>http://www.smartpenguin.com/affiliate.php?id=12
>
>

I still don't see where people can get offended.
My signature has a link to my domain, so what. It doesn't even
remotely come close to having being rated 18 or over. If I wished it,
I could even add to my signature my world name, or better yet, go off
to the Community area and discuss about my paid world which happens to
be a Gor world. I would have every right to do so, as it's a part of
the ActiveWorlds community.

Now, on the other hand, if you wish for me to place a pop up text
window which opens as soon as you load the main page, that explains
that it is not recommended for a person under the age of 18 to enter
the site, then I would be happy to do that. It gives advance warning
that if they press "yes" they agree to what they have read, and if
they press "no", well, they can go off to disney land.

I will gladly place such a script on my site, but I will not change my
signature because some find it offensive.

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| o The Gorean Scribe |
| o http://www.anduin-lothario.com |
| o It wasn't me, it was the one I'm in! |
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May 25, 2002, 12:01pm

In a galaxy far far away, known as general.discussion, an identify
claiming to be known as "strike rapier"
<strike at rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> scribed the following:
>All i (and i believe most others) are that you do not display that link, I
>doubt anyone has a problem with your title, but the link is a direct portal
>to a way off ilfe that would scare the hell out of most kids who dont have
>the maturity to deal with it in a proper manner. SO i ask you with the
>utmost respect, please can you not include that in your signiture for the
>good of those who cant handle it :)
>
>- Mark

I will not remove my signature, but I have added a warning message
script to the main page. That is all I will do on my part as a
compromise and to keep everyone happy.

Now, if I child enters, he/she does so knowing what they are going
into with plenty warning.

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| o The Gorean Scribe |
| o http://www.anduin-lothario.com |
| o It wasn't me, it was the one I'm in! |
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May 25, 2002, 12:12pm

egh, that 1 is almost as bad as the other 1, infact its worse!

May 25, 2002, 12:23pm

Thanks Andiun, the MsgBox provides at least a clear unavoidable warning of
what is to come and gives them the chance to leave the page :)

Your demonstraition of good will is duley noted :)

-Mark

May 25, 2002, 1:41pm

That'd be nice, I'd like that. Would you do that please? Just for an
advanced warning that stuff may not be suitable for certain people.

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May 25, 2002, 1:42pm

Sorry didn't see you already added it.

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May 25, 2002, 8:30pm

Are you totally joking, or just way too protected as a child?

Babies are supposed spend the beginning of their lives staring at their
Mother's breasts, and even touching them, with their mouth no less. Piggies
do it too. I've never heard of that emotionally scarring any one... have
you?

got milk?

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May 25, 2002, 8:30pm

Are you totally joking or some thing?

Babies are supposed spend the beginning of their lives staring at their
Mother's breasts, and even touching them, with their mouth no less. I've
never heard of that emotionally scarring any one... have you?

got milk?

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May 25, 2002, 8:31pm

Sorry about the double posting thing... ?
weird

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May 25, 2002, 8:50pm

Do you remember when you were a little baby?

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May 26, 2002, 9:56am

Knowing you remember isn't the case. It's all there subconsciously, wether
you know you remember or not. All the things a baby hears, sees, feels,
tastes, smells is chizzled in to memory, because those very things are what
stimulates it's mind to grow..

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May 26, 2002, 10:44am

Still, not all children are breast fed now-a-days.

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