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Jan 29, 2002, 10:48pm

Hey everyone, I need some ideas on some objects people'd like to see. Feel
free to post ideas. Hopefully it's not too complex :)

--Bowen--

Jan 30, 2002, 1:36am

I've posted the full list in wishlist ng because some are complex, had
wanted to make them on my own, but figured it couldn't hurt to post.

Holly Tree with red berries
Grass with depth as in AWGate (for the unperfect unimmaculate wild lawn look
:)
ZigZag brick trim for walk the width of a wall001.rwx and in length sizes to
match walks.
(looks like below)

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Actual brick walk is here in the middle.
ZigZagged sides match brick walk texture.
These are just bricks angled 45 degrees in the ground.

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Jan 30, 2002, 5:46am

If we are talking objects I have some suggestions, not necessarily all
"matching". They are probaly all ready in existance and indeed i have seen
some of these things in private worlds, but different versions are allways
nice

an object that's curved like a swathe/bunting/decorations that takes pics
from the web or has available several textures for different
events.....i.e.: flashing Christmas lights, red white and blue ribbons for
American holidays, or coloured ribbons for birthdays and a masked
background.

decent water that's not see through from underneath with waterfall that's
NOT symmetrical and actually matches the water, in other words it FLOWS
into the water without the 90 degree seam


different plants, not just trees...i.e. : climbing ivy and roses , complete
gardens of flowers ( Not in bright "pretty" unrealistic colours but
tasteful ), garden mulch with loose dirt showing through, stands of bamboo
,picked bunches of flowers, tropical plants, oriental plants

haycocks

turrets and spires

and to add on to sinews suggestion of brick edging.....wooden edging as well
( off cuts of rough poles in short vertical lines )

a curved bridge ( footbridge) such as one would find in an oriental garden
or similar

a stile

a curved cobblestone path......with several sections including one that can
join on to the bridge

a well

a lions head fountain ( flat to the wall lions head with water coming out
into a small semi circular pool) that can affix to a brick wall

any sort of fountain

brick/stone outdoor furniture - roman style, oriental, country etc

a pergola in parts ( door ways, roofs etc) and assorted lattice work and
edging in both traditional, and contemporary design. Perhaps one that has
the built in vine on it...... ( dont ask for much hehehe)

gazebo

sundial

dog kennel

nursery furniture ? LOL think about it thou, there are lots of couches
and coffee tables, but theres not a lot of furniture for the not as "normal"
rooms, like gyms and suchlike for instance?











[View Quote] Holly Tree with red berries
Grass with depth as in AWGate (for the unperfect unimmaculate wild lawn look
:)
ZigZag brick trim for walk the width of a wall001.rwx and in length sizes to
match walks.
(looks like below)

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

Actual brick walk is here in the middle.
ZigZagged sides match brick walk texture.
These are just bricks angled 45 degrees in the ground.

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

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Jan 31, 2002, 12:53am

A MOOSE!

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TrekkerX
Commatron & Athnex
Anti AOL Activist, and some other stuff...
http://www.commatron.com
http://www.athnex.com
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Jan 31, 2002, 1:26am

LoL a moose he says. Making animals is not a good idea. They lag like
crazy :) Like all those cars and 3d trees in AWTeen.

--Bowen--

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Feb 1, 2002, 3:20am

but the moose... :((... what about a low poly moose... like block moose...
with just cubes.. and maby a celender for the neck and antlers....

--
TrekkerX
Commatron & Athnex
Anti AOL Activist, and some other stuff...
http://www.commatron.com
http://www.athnex.com
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Feb 2, 2002, 4:50pm

[View Quote] I have a moose in pollen - as well asan avatar with a moose head :)

F.

>
> --
> TrekkerX
> Commatron & Athnex
> Anti AOL Activist, and some other stuff...
> http://www.commatron.com
> http://www.athnex.com
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Feb 2, 2002, 8:16pm

:)

--
TrekkerX
Commatron & Athnex
Anti AOL Activist, and some other stuff...
http://www.commatron.com
http://www.athnex.com
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Feb 3, 2002, 1:03pm

There is also a moose in !friends, a bullwinklish style one



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Feb 4, 2002, 1:02am

Hi everyone:

[View Quote] Well Bowen, you know the first idea I have (ya know the time-floating sky
idea I proposed yesterday), but here are some others.....

1). ADVERTISEMENTS!!!! Now before you all tell me I'm off my rocker, hear
me out on this one, okay??? Okay. Now we all know that Affiliate Programs
don't exactly put food on the table, but what IF we used the proceeds from
there to PAY FOR OUR CITS AND HOMEPAGES instead??? It would be an
alternative to monthly charges and paying several months in advance PLUS all
proceeds received can go towards credit, which would in turn (provided
you've earned enough), PAY FOR your cit and/or Homepage.

The ads can come in the form of banners like you see in AW and can be moved
around to the World Owner's content to avoid construction problems with the
Building Inspector (if for no other reason), but CANNOT be deleted (unless
your world isn't hosted by AW of course! :-))

2). AW-APPROVED BOTS FOR 3D HOMEPAGES!!!! Hey, if AW is going to allow
them to be distributed via at Mart, they should AT LEAST make them available
to 3D Homepage Builders via the object compiler. We should then be able to
configure it simply by right clicking on the bot's avatar. How 'bout it
AW???

3). MORE AVATARS!!!! Can't very well host a world without these (well okay
it can be done with just the basics), but in order for us 3D Homepage
Builders to be able to truly CUSTOMIZE our 3D Homepage, we NEED this
functionality. We could also use an AVATAR COMPILER so we can add as many
additional avatars as we want just like adding objects (only the new avar
would naturally appear in the AVATARS pull-down list).

Well, that's about it for now. If I happen to come up with another
brilliant brainstomin' idea, I'll be sure to post it here. In the
meantime......CYA!! :-)

Cheers for now everyone :-)

Patrick Cook
pchamster at msn.com
Denver, Colorado
http://home.talkcity.com/MinivanAve/patrick32/

Feb 4, 2002, 7:02am

a container of BBQ flavoured pringles....
that would be so great to have as an object in any world.


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Feb 4, 2002, 1:10pm

With the stupid new pricing scheme banner ads would never be able to pay up
for cits, you'll have a hard time getting enough revenue off them as the
e-advertising market is right now (you'd have to find something a bit more
innovative to get a good revenue right now). You don't need to have bots
approved by AW, and they can't really use their time on approving bots,
they've got bigger issues on their hands (ok, so Ricky & JP would probably
don't mind having fun playing around with bots all day, but anyways...).
Just download bots from places that seem thrustworthy, and that are
recognized if you're affraid of trojans, most bot programmers are honest
people that wouldn't dream of writing evil trojans (with the new encryption
the trojans can't do a lot either). Start out with easy to use bots like
HamBot & Co ( http://www.hamfon.com ), Preston ( http://www.imabot.com ) and
Xelagot ( http://www.imatowns.com/xelagot/ ). Then go looking for other bots
(you can subscribe to the Bots NG for example), like the bots I've made,
available at http://home.no.net/kahbot/ (I know the design is HORRIBLE, new
one will come pretty soon). An important thing is that AW does not have an
object compiler! I guess you're referencing to the object properties window,
which only changes the property of an object (or duplicates/deletes one).
Many people would like to see bots integrated into the browser as plugins, I
think it's an OK idea, but right now it's not really that much extra work to
launch a bot from your startmenu or desktop... For the avatars thing, I
recommend starting your own OP and using one of the multiple OP tools
currently available, allowing you to add as many avatars as possible to your
world. Even though your 3DHP was, lets say, founded by the AWC artists it's
your world now, their only responsponsability is to continue hosting the
world and the OP, not to provide you with additional content. You've got to
provide that yourself, I recommend reading through
http://mauz.info/worldrunning.html :-))

KAJ
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Feb 4, 2002, 5:24pm

Wasn't it cookies last time in MoonBeam?

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Feb 5, 2002, 3:22am

Hi everyone:

[View Quote] Well then I guess at Mart is probably DOOMED, especially given some of the
moves AW has made lately....

> You don't need to have bots approved by AW, and they can't really use
their time on approving bots,
> they've got bigger issues on their hands (ok, so Ricky & JP would probably
> don't mind having fun playing around with bots all day, but anyways...).

Well then I hope they're busy CREATING bots which can be used on or with
3DHPs or there's gonna be A LOT of "duplicate" worlds out there with VERY
LITTLE (if any!) creativity or imagination put into them (okay, I know MY
world doesn't look much different right now, but I'm *trying* with what
little time I have :-)).

> Just download bots from places that seem thrustworthy, and that are
> recognized if you're affraid of trojans, most bot programmers are honest
> people that wouldn't dream of writing evil trojans (with the new
encryption
> the trojans can't do a lot either). Start out with easy to use bots like
> HamBot & Co ( http://www.hamfon.com ), Preston ( http://www.imabot.com )
and
> Xelagot ( http://www.imatowns.com/xelagot/ ). Then go looking for other
bots
> (you can subscribe to the Bots NG for example), like the bots I've made,
> available at http://home.no.net/kahbot/ (I know the design is HORRIBLE,
new
> one will come pretty soon).

I've bookmarked the sites for future reference.... :-)

> An important thing is that AW does not have an object compiler! I guess
you're referencing to the object properties window,
> which only changes the property of an object (or duplicates/deletes one).

I can tell YOU haven't applied for a 3D Homepage, have you KAH?? :-) Well
believe it or not, there IS such a beast. It is merely an object that kinda
looks like (at least in MY world, which is a contemporary brick themed 3DHP)
a manhole cover which you click on. That opens up a web page off to the
side where you enter your username and password. From there, you can select
from objects which are located in the AlphaWorld Object Yard via a pull down
menu. Once you have made your selection, just click the NEXT button and the
object appears magically before your very eyes (if it doesn't appear right
away, it will once you exit the browser and re-enter your world).

From there, you can use the OBJECT PROPERTIES window to move the object into
place. Simple huh?? :-)

> Many people would like to see bots integrated into the browser as plugins,
I
> think it's an OK idea, but right now it's not really that much extra work
to
> launch a bot from your startmenu or desktop... For the avatars thing, I
> recommend starting your own OP and using one of the multiple OP tools
> currently available, allowing you to add as many avatars as possible to
your
> world. Even though your 3DHP was, lets say, founded by the AWC artists
it's
> your world now, their only responsponsability is to continue hosting the
> world and the OP, not to provide you with additional content. You've got
to
> provide that yourself, I recommend reading through
> http://mauz.info/worldrunning.html :-))

I didn't see the above URL. I shall bookmark it ASAP!! :-) And I suppose
you're right about running a bot straight from my desktop (although ISPs may
not share the same sentiment and in fact may even take issue with the idea
citing "security concerns", but we all know that ISPs tend to be a *little*
too paranoid anyhow). As for avatars, I don't think I'm gonna be able to
find anything cheap on the net tbhat's also USER-FRIENDLY, so I'll be
looking around some of the better RETAIL outlets to see what THEY have (I'm
not shelling out over TWO HUNDRED CLAMS for TrueSpace - REGARDLESS OF
VERSION!).

Anyhow I'm the ONLY op in my world, so right now that's about all that
matters.... :-)

Feb 5, 2002, 10:38am

by object compiler, you mean object generator right?

--Bowen--

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Feb 5, 2002, 2:50pm

Hi everyone:

[View Quote] That is correct Bowen....

Feb 5, 2002, 5:30pm

at mart has never actually worked. The AWC haven't got time to create a bunch
of bots themselfes, they leave that to 3rd party programmers (anybody that
can program in C/C++/VB/Delphi/Java/PHP...). I often do bots on request
(freely), we can have a chat sometime if you want a special bot written for
you. I did check out the 3DHPs, and now I get what you meant with object
compiler :-)) There are PLENTY of free, extremely good avs out there, I can
tell ya! Ananas also created a GUI app for editing the avatars.dat file
(you'll know what it's function is if you read through Mauz's worldrunning
guide) easily, get it at his site ( http://oct31.de ). OP in AW is not an
abbreviation for Operator, but for Object Path :-))

KAH

Feb 5, 2002, 11:28pm

i'de rather pay the new rates then pay the old and have to deal with a
rotating-ad banner.. i absoluteley hate banner-ads especially on services
one pays for (any price) the reason most people pay is to get rid of ads.. i
could see maybe tourist accoutns with banner ads..

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