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3D Homepages // General DiscussionozilchoDec 23, 2001, 6:00pm
Am I only one getting sick of all these boring 3D "Homepage" worlds in AW???
It's the same worlds duplicated over and over and over and....<yawn> all over the place! Thank you...rant over. Merry Krimble! Happy Holidays!!! bowenDec 23, 2001, 6:23pm
I second that.. I think AW should turn them off, it's obvious they aren't
making any money off it. The free cit for 30 days is a good ploy though. --Bowen-- [View Quote] dotar sojatDec 23, 2001, 10:22pm
Not only that but the world list takes forever to download for those of us on
dialup thanks to all the darn things. [View Quote] > I second that.. I think AW should turn them off, it's obvious they aren't > making any money off it. The free cit for 30 days is a good ploy though. > > --Bowen-- > [View Quote] data21Dec 24, 2001, 3:10pm
im on a 56K dial up and that list use to take me about 10 sec to fully load
in, now with the 3d home pages it takes me around 30 sec to a min. sure some of them themes look cool, but giving them out like that free trial was not a good idea. I even tried one, and the theme I picked it and with my visibility set to 40 it lagged like a 5th day tourist build. any higher visibility and you can't move, I got a good video card to. [View Quote] lord perceptionDec 27, 2001, 8:01am
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It takes me about 10 seconds flat to load it now through a 56k dial up modem
where as it use to take only prehaps 2-3 seconds. :o/ But atleast it still bearable for me. > sure some of them themes look cool, but giving them out like that free trial > was not a good idea. I even tried one, and the theme I picked it and with my > visibility set to 40 it lagged like a 5th day tourist build. any higher > visibility and you can't move, I got a good video card to. With the lag you are experiencing, I would assume the speed of the CPU has something to do with it as well, not just the videocard alone. I'm prity sure that the engine that AW is using utitlises both the CPU and the videocard (excluding software render which uses the CPU only). The framerates for me seems okay (around 12fps at 80m visibility) under all the themes that are available, I'm currently using an old PIII 550Mhz with an outdated 32MB nVidia TNT2 pro, yes I know it's an old system but at least it does all I need it to do. Also another thing which can contribute to the lag is lack of RAM, I've noticed that when I had 128MB my system would start jerking and pausing when it used it up all the available RAM and started swapping data between the HardDisk and RAM. Since upgrading to 256MB this has ceased. ananasDec 27, 2001, 11:56am
Try all three, OpenGL, DirectX and software rendering.
On my old ATI RagePro card on WinNT4, the software mode is way (about 10 times) faster than OpenGL. This card isn't a very good 3D card, but the OpenGL driver is just crap. And wait for the downloads to complete, before you measure the framerate, while AW downloads, it seems to put a lot of load on the CPU. [View Quote] -- "_ | /\ \ / __/ /_ kahDec 27, 2001, 2:05pm
dotar sojatDec 27, 2001, 6:52pm
10 seconds? Oh 56K? Gods I wish. I am on 56K here and I wait a good 45 seconds
each time. I also am not the only one waiting that long (or longer). I know one person of DSL who takes longer than I do to load it. [View Quote] [View Quote] data21Dec 29, 2001, 10:32am
I do best in Direct 3D mode, although I am able to use all video modes.
Direct 3D gives be best performance overall. OpenGL seems to over brighten the light commands. and the software mode, I don't really see a difference between it and Direct 3D im running a P2 350Mhz 128MB ram voodoo5 5500 card with 64MB video memory [View Quote] foxmccloudDec 29, 2001, 10:56pm
That seems right, Voodoo cards are best optimised for (from best to worse) : Glide - Direct3D - OpenGL
nVidia cards are best at OpenGL, and then Direct3D (Glide unsupported of course). I'm not sure but I think ATI cards are best at Direct3D and then OpenGL. Kyro cards are best at OpenGL (I think?) Fox Mc Cloud "data21" <dbmiller at kiski.net> a écrit dans le message news: 3c2db7fa at server1.Activeworlds.com... > I do best in Direct 3D mode, although I am able to use all video modes. > Direct 3D gives be best performance overall. > OpenGL seems to over brighten the light commands. > and the software mode, I don't really see a difference between it and Direct > 3D > > im running a P2 350Mhz 128MB ram voodoo5 5500 card with 64MB video > memory wing.Dec 30, 2001, 7:08pm
I use 56k with a nVidia Quadro 2 MXR (GeForce II MX with a few added
functions for a lot more money) 32mb and an Athlon XP system clocked at 2088MHz with 512mb of DDR RAM clocked at 333Mhz. Indeed one of the biggest, baddest all-around machines ever to grace the face of the earth, and what do I get in certain 3d homepages in OpenGL (The fastest method for this setup)? 15FPS. I rest my case. If this doesn't improve to at LEAST 30 when I pop a R8500 in here, AW will officially become a lost cause. [View Quote] pc hamsterJan 15, 2002, 10:29pm
Hi everyone:
[View Quote] Putting myself at great risk of being flamed or chastised, as an owner of a PAID 3D Homepage, I'm a believer that it isn't neccessarily the fact you have a 3D Homepage that matters the most. It's what you do with it once it's all set up and paid for that matters the most. And as such, THOSE are the homepage worlds what will get the most attention. Now, of course I'll admit that I haven't done very much since I paid for my 3D Homepage aside from partially destroying a house while trying to place an imported object there (and moving Ground Zero as a result), but there are SOME of who DO have plans for our 3D Homepages (and are working on carrying them out). If you REALLY want to get on a rant, take a look at all those worlds which are NOT 3D Homepages that CONSISTENTLY get ZERO users, yet they insist on listing themselves in the AW directory. And some of those worlds don't even look like they've updated in like MONTHS too!!! Was it a good idea to offer a 30-day FREE TRIAL for 3D Homepages??? No. But the problem of worlds to users ratio existed LONG before 3D Homepages came along. Add this to the fact that AW is now charging its users on a MONTHLY basis just merely goes to show the effort that AW has made in promoting ITSELF!!! But I'll leave this for another topic/thread. In short, as I indicated earlier, the problem of the ratio of worlds to users was there LONG BEFORE 3D Homepages came along. This is a fact no one can deny!! Just my $.02 worth....Cheers for now. :-) Patrick Cook Owner - Pub 102X pchamster at msn.com musicradio102x at juno.com Denver, Colorado syntaxJan 19, 2002, 5:20am
Woo Tyrell! Usin' AW to put the moves on the chicks, eh? That's quite the
idea, maybe AWC could try to market it? :-P I can see it now... *dream sequence* *harp playing* *Visiting a yahoo.com news page* "Activeworlds Technology Enables Guys to put moves on Chicks." "Put the moves on chicks in FULL 3D! Yes, 3D! We are the leader in 3D technology on the internet! 3D dammit! Did we mention we are fully 3d? Don't mistake our software with 2D, ok? And remember, we have over 2 million users world wide! Remember that. (And we are not 2D, we are 3D." *wakes up in a cold sweat* Deja-vu. (http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/020118/nyf051_1.html) -- - Syntax - http://swcity.net [View Quote] |