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Nov 22, 2001, 2:07am

Hi all,

So ICQ2001b is out, but I have a little warning for you all about one of its
new features, if you even use it that is.
One of its new features include an HTML format Signature with your ICQ
details which even show if you are online or offline ICQ to the people
reading the message. What is wrong exactly you ask? Well, Norton Antivirus
picks up the message as a virus and the message is blocked... The virus
seems to be called nothing at all: " " it is a full stealth virus or
something. Anyway, it is a pain, their HTML signature picking up as a virus
is a shame, was looking forwards to using it for myself as I do now in my
TCT format signature <sigh>.
Have I tried editing it? Yes I have, I think it's the actual code for the
picture attachment which Norton picks up as a virus. If you have ICQ, try
out the signature file for yourself, send the message to yourself and read
it... Strange.

Any suggestions?

--
_________________________________________
Anduin Lothario
ICQ#:17962714

SMS: +278314217962714
More ways to contact me:
http://wwp.icq.com/17962714
http://www.anduin-lothario.com
_________________________________________

Nov 22, 2001, 2:54am

ICQ is the worst thing out there.
1. its not safe
2. all people in the world that use icq know your ICQ number weather you
gave it to them or not.
3. its easily hacked to get at you!
4. To much dang porn urls coming over it from unknown users!
I would recommend AOL IM or Yahoo Messenger


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Nov 22, 2001, 3:10am

"data21" <dbmiller at kiski.net> a écrit dans le message news:
3bfc84e9 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> ICQ is the worst thing out there.
> 1. its not safe
Only if you enable the homepage server (which is a stupid thing to do
anyway)

> 2. all people in the world that use icq know your ICQ number weather you
gave it to them or not.
That's a good thing IMO

> 3. its easily hacked to get at you!
Just don't have enemies... lol
Anyway as long as you're on windows this can happen.
The only 'hacking' I've come across on ICQ is when a guy I don't have in my
list with a brand new ICQ number comes with a nickname like pH34r!!!! and
tries to send me a file called "suprise.exe" before having even said hello.
Not too hard to overcome, I usually even accept and download the file to let
him hope before deleting it (and then pretending you're a newbie to make him
waste 2 hours explaining you how to open files in the explorer is fun too)

> 4. To much dang porn urls coming over it from unknown users!
I agree on that. Too much adds too.

> I would recommend AOL IM or Yahoo Messenger
It doesn't change much

Fox Mc Cloud

Nov 22, 2001, 4:30am

"tyrell" <tyrell1 at sk.sympatico.ca> a écrit dans le message news:
3BFC8DB5.D460D470 at sk.sympatico.ca...
> Hmmm... it's interesting that just because one can't figure out how to
config a
> program properly, it's obviously the programs fault...
>
> I'v been using ICQ (ver 2001b now) long before it was sucked into AOL (my
ICQ UN
> is in the sig)... I NEVER get spam... (try sending me an ICQ... I'l not
get it


This is because you're an ancient user. I am an old enough user not to
receive TOO MUCH spam (my icq is 13371469), but still I receive some.
Spammers send their stupid adds to the newest ICQ numbers only, cause
there's more chances that they're still active. Try creating a new ICQ# just
for the test, last time I tried I got my first adds in less than 10 minutes
! This is a real problem with ICQ.

> unless I manually enter you into my contact list...) I'm never bothered by
> anyone 'not' on my contact list... If someone on my contact list becomes a
pain
> in the... er... neck... I place them in my 'ignore list'... What could be
> easier...
>
> Just because 'you' can't figure out how to configure the program doesn't
make it
> a bad program... It appears the problem is with the User...
>
> my 2 cents...

Fox Mc Cloud

Nov 22, 2001, 5:24am

[View Quote] I've used AOL and Yahoo, both of them are not as good as ICQ, I set
everything up as to not get spammed too much and annoyed by too many. I have
not either been hacked in the years of using ICQ, even when I had the Web
Front enabled I had no troubles, although it's stupid anyway.

I don't mind people knowing my ICQ number either, that's the whole point of
using ICQ, for IM's and people to seek you and talk with you. Anyone I don't
like, well they meet the 'ignore list' also...
I've tried most of the ICQ Cracks anyway, even to the point of revealing IP
numbers and registering low ICQ#'s as lost as 100... But it all comes down
to your personal computer protection also, I mean, even on AW anyone with a
bot or eject rights can get your IP address...

Anduin Lothario

Nov 22, 2001, 5:27am

Yes, I agree with you here. I'm on ICQ 24/7 and use the program to its
fullest potential's, just like I do with any program I get. I like to make
sure I don't miss out on ANY of the features and wish to know programs
inside out, without getting into the hacking side of things that is.

But that still doesn't resolve the problem about there HTML Signature file,
I've contacted their technical support and I got answers to totally
different subjects, so I am still awaiting their second reply...

Anduin Lothario

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Nov 22, 2001, 5:42am

"anduin lothario" <anduin at anduin-lothario.com> a écrit dans le message news:
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>
[View Quote] I agree. An IP address shouldn't be a secret anyway. Hey, mine is
132.204.216.151, in case it changes fox.d2g.com will always be pointing to
it anyway. :oP
Security by obscurity is Microsoft's traditional politics and has proved not
to work. Protect your computer, don't just hide its address. Like not
revealing your home address to anyone would prevent you from getting robbed.
Installing an alarm is a better way in my opinion.

Fox Mc Cloud

Nov 22, 2001, 5:54am

> Security by obscurity is Microsoft's traditional politics and has proved
not
> to work. Protect your computer, don't just hide its address. Like not
> revealing your home address to anyone would prevent you from getting
robbed.
> Installing an alarm is a better way in my opinion.

You made a good point there, and it makes perfect sense too.
Although you can as well try and prevent giving out a home address by
providing a P.O Box or a Private phone number.
With an IP you can scramble it if you have the proper equipment also...

Anduin Lothario

Nov 23, 2001, 2:06am

Actually, in my opinion ICQ is the most powerful and feature-packed IM
program available. I use AIM only because my friends use AOL and AIM, and
ICQ has more features than AIM...and its not made by some evil company
(which probably uses the service to spy on you) like MSN Messenger
(Microsoft! Eeeeevil!). All you need is a firewall and a couple minutes to
run through your preferences.


--
Captain MAD Mike
-Governor, PC Addict, Odd Man
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Nov 23, 2001, 3:11am

ICQ is not made by an evil company, true, it was made by 2 israeli
individuals
But it's been bought by AOL. AOL = evil.

Fox Mc Cloud

"captain mad mike" <cmm at swcity.net> a écrit dans le message news:
3bfdcb4a$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Actually, in my opinion ICQ is the most powerful and feature-packed IM
> program available. I use AIM only because my friends use AOL and AIM, and
> ICQ has more features than AIM...and its not made by some evil company
> (which probably uses the service to spy on you) like MSN Messenger
> (Microsoft! Eeeeevil!). All you need is a firewall and a couple minutes to
> run through your preferences.

Nov 23, 2001, 4:28am

my # is 4953664... i stopped using it cause of those dumbass chain letters
and spam messages i got. if u dont get them no one has you on their list
theres is almost no other way not to get them
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Nov 23, 2001, 5:38am

Hi,

> my # is 4953664... i stopped using it cause of those dumbass chain letters
> and spam messages i got. if u dont get them no one has you on their list
> theres is almost no other way not to get them

Well, if someone from my contacts list sends me some spam or chain letter
things, I plain out tell them not to do it again or visit my ignore list.

Another thing to do is not to Authorise people you do not know, that way,
you won't get junk either, or for the most of it anyway.

--
_________________________________________
Anduin Lothario
ICQ#:17962714

SMS: +278314217962714
More ways to contact me:
http://wwp.icq.com/17962714
http://www.anduin-lothario.com
_________________________________________

Nov 23, 2001, 1:20pm

I have to disagree. I have had ICQ for years. Long before AOL junked it all
up. I have probably one of the lowest ICW #'s of anyone you know - 1XXXXX.
It was even lower than that when I first got it. Never had a problem, very
few people just asking me to join or have ever sent messages un-solicited.
Maybe 10 in all this time. Set it up right and it can rock. Obviously you're
doing something wrong - hint, don't join any of those groups!!!

Recommmending AOL or Yahoo Messenger??? ACK! Now that's where you'll get
tons of people just contacting you. I don't and won't have either.
Casay
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