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Oct 30, 2001, 7:35pm

This may help:
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-robbins100801.shtml

It gives some background information about the goings on of 1921, it =
also explains fairly well "Why We War" (which is the topic of this =
thread).

What do I think? I think many (note, I did not say ALL) Americans are =
completely unaware of anything that goes on outside their front doors, =
they rely on what they see on television, in the newspapers (if they =
bother to read those), and they desire to be spoon-fed pabulum by the =
mass media (who doesn't, btw, tell us everything, they only tell us what =
stories they think will Sell). What Sells is not reality, what Sells is =
entertainment. =20

Do you remember the Nirvana song "Smells Like Teen Spirit"? In it Kurt =
Cobain is expressing this idea that we Americans do not actually take =
the time to understand and absorb the feelings and ideas that are =
important, but that Generation X has numbed itself to what is really =
going on in the world. He strove as an artist to wake people up to =
Really Living, to Feel with their hearts and minds, instead of accepting =
that spoon-feeding. The song was a statement... "here we are now / =
entertain us". Because he could not reach through that numbness and =
make us see clearly the reality of the situation, he became despondent =
and he killed himself. That's what that was about. And that's what my =
post was also about.... trying to make people see things for themselves.

What do I think? As a former "warrior" and disabled vet, I think war =
should be the very last choice a nation should make and, only after all =
attempts to resolve a problem have failed should it be undertaken, and =
then it should be undertaken for very good reasons (and not just =
retribution) and then a full-out, full-bore war should be fought until =
the situation is resolved. I think the media and the politicians have =
attempted to paint the picture that part of the reason that we are now =
in this war against Terrorism is for humanitarian reasons... human =
rights, for example. Clearly, that is not a motive for this war. =20

A look back over just the past ten years of the history of Afghanistan =
will show you that the Taliban was put into place with U.S. money, aid, =
and arms, streamed through Pakistan, because we thought the Northern =
Alliance (who was the previous government) needed to be ousted from =
power. Russia has everything to do with what is going on in Afghanistan =
today, and from what I've been reading, they've already made a deal with =
the Northern Alliance to build a post-war oil pipeline right through =
Afghanistan to secure themselves a mideast oil supply. Look into that. =
Look into what the real motivations for this war are. Don't ask to be =
entertained.

=C1ine

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[View Quote] > it talks about bin Laden and the death penalty, but what are you =
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> to *say* about it? You just sort of throw out facts and other people's =

> opinions, without bothering to either give us your position on the=20
> discussion, or at least trying to refute someone else's position. =
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> do you stand?
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> P.S. KAH, please learn how to quote! :P
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