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chat relay bot for Gate // Wishlisttart sugarNov 22, 2004, 8:10pm
It's been about a year since I asked for this. Time to ask again. : )
I wish The Gate had a chat relay bot. That way, when somebody cusses, their chat line comes up as <censored> and they don't get da boot. Now - as things are - the CA will boot them but that dang word is still hanging out there for all to see until the chat scrolls it away. What's the point of ejecting then?? The CA can boot for repeated offenses of being <censored>. Rather like flooding. The Gate is my primary concern. I don't own a world, although I build extensively in AW. I don't even understand what you all are talking about most of the time. : ) ok Go ahead now you all and tell me how I mislabled what I want, or how it isn't feasable, or how the RAM of the propdump won't handle the gigabytes of the ROM and the whole protoplasm of the universe will fall out of sync. o_O YIKES! Tart Sugar alexthemartianNov 23, 2004, 6:17am
if that bot is hosted at the same place as the world server, then this will
be simple and fast.. but i doubt aw will do that, unless they made the bot themselfs. [View Quote] samuel ml lisonNov 23, 2004, 7:37am
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E N Z O,
How about something like NewAW had for global chat. All text runs through a bot; could we not add something like his to AWGate and censor any bad words instead of ejecting. Maybe even replacing cuss words with something funny. No need to even eject, unless of course people start flooding. You could also use such a bot to show off some of the new features available in Active Worlds. Such as coloured text, make tourists a different colour to citizens and gatekeepers totally. Add small secret chat zones by some trees. The bot could also automatically answer newbies questions with a private global message to them (so it grabs their eye) based on certain *keywords*. Up to you ;o) Small, but worthwhile update to the Gate. Yours Sincerely, Samuël ML Lison -- DreamCities.net - A Community for All! (http://www.dreamcities.net) Jobs Available: http://business.dreamcities.net/jobs.html Contact Me: http://about.dreamcities.net/contact.html tart sugarNov 23, 2004, 10:44am
<wow> Somebody took this wish seriously for a change. THX!!!
I love the idea of the different colored text. As long as it's not yellow font on a white background. ; ) However, I wouldn't suggest replacing the *bad* word with a *funny* word. I can just see The Gate now - being flooded with deliberately *bad/funny* words just to see what that the sentence will look like. yeowza And the *keyword* triggered response is gonna put GKs out of work!!! hehehehe Something must be done, though, about ppl coming into The Gate, typing as many offensive words as they can on a chat line, posting it, getting ejected, coming back 5 minutes later and doing it again. >: / The chat comes to a complete halt as everybody is reading every single *bad* word some jerk just posted. And heaven help AWI if a parent should happen to be looking over the shoulder of their 10 year old child and sees it, too. GKs are helpless to stop such posters. [View Quote] samuel ml lisonNov 23, 2004, 2:14pm
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Fully agreed, LOL
> However, I wouldn't suggest replacing the *bad* word with a *funny* word. I > can just see The Gate now - being flooded with deliberately *bad/funny* > words just to see what that the sentence will look like. yeowza Even if so, it's not going to annoy any parent looking over their 10 year olds shoulder is it? That 10 year old won't even know what those people are doing besides saying a bunch of funny things. > And the *keyword* triggered response is gonna put GKs out of work!!! > hehehehe Still need real people around to make visitors feel more *welcomed* and answer the harder questions. > Something must be done, though, about ppl coming into The Gate, typing as > many offensive words as they can on a chat line, posting it, getting > ejected, coming back 5 minutes later and doing it again. >: / > The chat comes to a complete halt as everybody is reading every single *bad* > word some jerk just posted. > > And heaven help AWI if a parent should happen to be looking over the > shoulder of their 10 year old child and sees it, too. Yep, bad publicity if there just happens to be a parent watching over their child's shoulder. They would see the swearing, they would not even know what *ejecting* is or that the person has even been booted, and instead they shut down the browser and remove it from the PC, not allowing their child access to is anymore. Yours Sincerely, Samuël ML Lison -- DreamCities.net - A Community for All! (http://www.dreamcities.net) Jobs Available: http://business.dreamcities.net/jobs.html Contact Me: http://about.dreamcities.net/contact.html lady nighthawkNov 23, 2004, 5:14pm
Great suggests Tart ... I hope AWI takes you up on this idea! Of course,
there are those that will just come in, swear a string of words and leave before CA can eject, then come back and do it again. Rather than *changing the words to something nicer or funny* I think those words should just be blanks for which the CA sees as flooding and ejects because people that do this do it on purpose to annoy and should be ejected. So, a sentence like *^%$# &*(*^% ^^%$$&* *&^(##%$ would be seen as a bunch of blanks by the CA and the offender ejected. Then you have those that mask swearing and that would of course be harder to track down by a bot, thus GKs are still needed if they can catch the lil brats LOL. Even if they do, log off, change IP addy, log back on and start all over :o/ Which brings me back to my previous suggestion of banning people by their computer ID. Computer IDs are hard to fake. I don't mean permanently ban but perhaps for a week by computer ID might knock some sense into some and if not then ban them from awgate at least (and maybe even other AWI worlds or G-rated worlds for instance). I have two banned by computer ID and have seen them try to re-enter (I recognize their IPs which are similar but not exactly the same) and they can't get in. Banning by computer ID is much more effective than by IP which if dynamic is useless. They will literally have to be on a different computer to enter. LNH -- [View Quote] bowenNov 23, 2004, 7:10pm
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Try "What is your name?" and see what if you get their name or their
online alias. My alias would be Bowen. lady nighthawkNov 23, 2004, 7:14pm
I'd always give my online nick, not much point in having a nick if you use
your real name imho. LNH -- [View Quote] bowenNov 23, 2004, 7:16pm
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Well, I can see your nickname anytime I want. Why would I ask a
redundant question? ;) It's not really a complicated question, but most people lack the common sense to answer it without trouble. tart sugarNov 23, 2004, 7:24pm
ok, wiseguy. <eg> I shall direct all computer related questions to SR.
All math questions shall go to JohnF. THAT outta clog up yer servers with eggs, bacon and SPAM. : ) [View Quote] [View Quote] lady nighthawkNov 23, 2004, 7:36pm
samuel ml lisonNov 24, 2004, 2:13pm
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If it is seen as blanks, there is no point what so ever in the CA bot
ejecting them. That would, in my mind be stupid. No words are coming through, the offenders are already pissed off because their words are unheard. It is a different story if you have a bot that can track a user and eject them if they enter and cuss immediately, instead of ejecting people for accidentally swearing. You do get a few adults that join Active Worlds for the first time, not knowing that words like *shit* can get you kicked out. Hard for us Aussies you know ;o) > So, a sentence like *^%$# &*(*^% ^^%$$&* *&^(##%$ would be seen as a > bunch of blanks by the CA and the offender ejected. Then you have those that > mask swearing and that would of course be harder to track down by a bot, > thus GKs are still needed if they can catch the lil brats LOL. Even if they > do, log off, change IP addy, log back on and start all over :o/ Log off and change IP? for many it's a matter of changing proxy servers and coming back in. No need to log off the PC at all if that's what you meant. > Which brings me back to my previous suggestion of banning people by their > computer ID. Computer IDs are hard to fake. I don't mean permanently ban but > perhaps for a week by computer ID might knock some sense into some and if > not then ban them from awgate at least (and maybe even other AWI worlds or > G-rated worlds for instance). I have two banned by computer ID and have seen > them try to re-enter (I recognize their IPs which are similar but not > exactly the same) and they can't get in. Banning by computer ID is much more > effective than by IP which if dynamic is useless. They will literally have > to be on a different computer to enter. Computer ID? I would like to see you try to get them. Most of these trouble makers are using PROXY servers, which means that they are hidden behind another computer, so to speak. And you will not get any computer ID. Then there are those hidden behind routers and hardware firewalls and the likes. I would like to see you get a computer ID out of those. If you manage to ban someone by computer ID, again all it takes is for them to use a proxy server to come back in. There is no effective way of *banning* someone. Yours Sincerely, Samuël ML Lison -- DreamCities.net - A Community for All! (http://www.dreamcities.net) Jobs Available: http://business.dreamcities.net/jobs.html Contact Me: http://about.dreamcities.net/contact.html tart sugarNov 24, 2004, 5:54pm
whoa Whoa WHOA!
I don't want anybody banned. I just want blatent cuss words <censored> by the CA. I typo'd something in another universe, and when I hit *Enter* all that showed up on the chat screen was... <censored> I didn't get ejected. I certainly wasn't banned. I made an honest mistake and the bot caught it. That's all I'm wishing for here. A chat relay bot that will take blatent cussing and <censor> it, not turn it into something cutesie. If we don't make an issue of it, and by that I mean making it seem *funny*, then the morons who come in to The Gate to cuss will soon lose interst. A good GK wants to AVOID ejecting anybody. The Gate is where newcomers first come to learn how to use the AW program and get aquainted with how things run. And parents trust that The Gate is a safe, G rated environment. I just want a bot that feels the same way. ; ) [View Quote] themaskNov 24, 2004, 6:07pm
They cant exactly use a CRB like what Tony showed most the use of the
global command, making chat more colorful, and filters swears, and some other goodies. They can though make a replica to what they want, but using a regular CRB bot would cause some problems. -- Signed, TheMask :: Owner of Delusional-Minds Hosting :: Free world hosting.. Just a T-Gram will do it. lady nighthawkNov 24, 2004, 11:29pm
Why not ban repeat offenders? There are certain people that should be
permanently banned, I can think of a couple right off the top of my head! LNH -- [View Quote] tony mNov 25, 2004, 4:18am
I'm not sure I understood what you've said here; the CRB does not (and will never) have a feature to replace words with other words.
It's also not clear what you mean by the CRB causing problems in a world such as AWGate; what problems would it cause? [View Quote] samuel ml lisonNov 25, 2004, 6:13am
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You really aren't taking into consideration that repeat offenders *know*
what they are doing and *know* how to get around being banned. Test it on me if you want in your own world, ban me for 1 week using my real IP, my real computer ID, and I guarantee you that I will be back in your world [1] within 5 minutes. People like good ol' MATT can re-enter AWGate, AWNewbie, AWSchool and any world he desires without a hassle, he is ejected and is back within a few minutes with a new IP and no computer ID. Anonymous Proxy servers are an unlimited source, you would never be able to permanently ban someone. You cannot ban proxy servers and many users actually depend on connecting to the Internet using such, through business routers, some ISP's; and some users are security conscious (privacy). Why bother with banning - censoring words on the fly without warning, without ejection is the best way. Seems to be you are a very trigger happy individual ;o) [1] - If your world allows Tourist entry that is. Yours Sincerely, Samuël ML Lison -- DreamCities.net - A Community for All! (http://www.dreamcities.net) Jobs Available: http://business.dreamcities.net/jobs.html Contact Me: http://about.dreamcities.net/contact.html strike rapierNov 25, 2004, 9:42am
Tourists can't use proxies in AW
Im not sure if they can if they log on a cit first. - MR [View Quote] samuel ml lisonNov 25, 2004, 2:11pm
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Anyone can log in through a proxy server...
When you first load up ActiveWorlds you get the option of how you connect to the Internet, so those behind a firewall or proxy can connect: o Through a dial-up Modem o Through a LAN (including DSL, Cable Modem etc) o Through a firewall or proxy server If you've already chosen your settings, you can choose to use a proxy server later on by simply opening your aworld.ini file and removing anything under connection: [connection] type= If tourists were not allowed to use a proxy, you would be missing out on a lot of users. Yours Sincerely, Samuël ML Lison -- DreamCities.net - A Community for All! (http://www.dreamcities.net) Jobs Available: http://business.dreamcities.net/jobs.html Contact Me: http://about.dreamcities.net/contact.html strike rapierNov 25, 2004, 6:00pm
samuel ml lisonNov 26, 2004, 3:13am
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Right, so one individual user managed to deny access to potentially
hundreds of new users? Yours Sincerely, Samuël ML Lison -- DreamCities.net - A Community for All! (http://www.dreamcities.net) Jobs Available: http://business.dreamcities.net/jobs.html Contact Me: http://about.dreamcities.net/contact.html lord fettNov 26, 2004, 3:50am
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