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Jul 26, 2004, 3:57am

Instead of having to have a bot to rotate the sun/moon object this feature
could be built into AW and would be able to be turned on with a checkbox and
run according to the VRT (or you could set an offset for it to run at like
with AWTeen's old bot Thor where an AWMinute was faster then realtime).
Also, with the program doing the cacluations internally you wouldn't have to
deal with lag between the bot cacluating and updateing, making it more fluid
as well (since the program can update the sky locally faster then it could
download updates). I don't think it would be terriably hard to impliment
concidering the equations are all over the internet (I've found it in C++,
Delphi, Qbasic, and VB forms). All that would have to be done is to draw the
object in the sky and figure the lighting since the sky goes from blue to
red/magenta to dark blue to black at night and from dark blue to blue to
light red to blue in the morning.

Jul 26, 2004, 3:59am

There could also be a action like the activate, create and bump actions that
would allow you to set a time for something to happen (for example turning
on a light when it reaches 8:00pm VRT)

Jul 26, 2004, 4:10am

id love to have that :) or if not we need some light switches that stay on
until their turned off eh??
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Jul 26, 2004, 6:22am

You can do this already with an invisible copy of the switch with the "turn off" command on it. Then just have the "on" switch make itself invisible and the "off" switch visible.

"bulb" object: create name bulb
"onswitch": create name onswitch;activate light name=bulb
"offswitch": create name offswitch,visible no;activate light brightness=0 name=bulb,visible onswitch on,visible offswitch no

And you can have "lit" (ala prelighting) and "unlit" bulbs to make it look more realistic.

Note: I use "no" for "off" since it saves a byte.

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Jul 26, 2004, 9:41am

Or create lampswitch name=bulb [light settings when on here]

Would be easier if it was added.

John

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Jul 26, 2004, 3:39pm

ummm no we don't already have it...that's a lightswitch for you.and just
you..and plus that's not even what I was saying :)
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Jul 26, 2004, 4:52pm

Yes we already have it...it's just not integrated into the "light" command. You certainly don't need your own world/objects to create such a switch either. I first did it with traffic signal triggering way back in mid-late 1997 (mere months after I started using AW). Why don't you just try it and see?

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Jul 26, 2004, 10:03pm

nooooooo that's not even close to my first request LOL

the switch is user only :) when I turn on a light in r/l it turns on for
everyone :) that's what I said first [post, second post, and again in this
one....and before you go off mentioning bots, or how it would take whole
script rewrites, this is the wish...not the plausibility control wish list
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Jul 27, 2004, 1:51am

If you learned to at least quote what you're replying to (even if it IS your own post), that would help. Reading your original message (and your reply to it), you are indeed asking some thing built-in to control lights--but nothing about them being seen to ALL users--until THIS post.

Anyway, yes, bot-integrated features have been on my AW improvements list for YEARS. Hopefully AW4 with it's plugin architecture will all this...

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Jul 27, 2004, 2:38am

"that's a lightswitch for you.and just you"

yeah I never said that...

"light switches that stay on until their turned off eh??"

that implies a global light command... for permanent lighting... your
solution would be as long as obj is in range...


now shush before you yell at someone with ignorance...
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Jul 27, 2004, 12:26pm

It CAN imply that, yes, but not before it implies the more logical, local, single-user-only implication.

Learn to write better will help prevent such confusion in the future. ;)

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Jul 27, 2004, 6:03pm

no you didn't read

this has no implications, it flat out says it eep, now stop being a jerk,
your not always right, and your arrogance and persistent fighting makes you
come off as snobby, mean, and pushy.

"that's a lightswitch for you.and just you"
"that's a lightswitch for you.and just you"
"that's a lightswitch for you.and just you"
"that's a lightswitch for you.and just you"
"that's a lightswitch for you.and just you"
"that's a lightswitch for you.and just you"
"that's a lightswitch for you.and just you"
"that's a lightswitch for you.and just you"

and a thousand times more, I said it, and you didn't read it.
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Jul 27, 2004, 6:41pm

None of this really has much to do with my original suggestion of having
a built in timer-like option. :P

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Jul 27, 2004, 11:56pm

Excuse you? You're the one who can't figure out how to make a light switch. ;)

[View Quote] Regardless, get over it and quit being so defensive. Next time read my AW improvements list before posting here to save yourself the hassle.

Oh and you haven't even BEGUN to see me get "snobby, mean, and pushy"... ;)

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Jul 28, 2004, 12:54am

hah just like a bitch.

no need to be so mean, YOU misunderstood, at the time I worded it fine, now
I worded it fine, tommorow it will still be worded the same, id have to add
even more words to say that the lightswitch only works when you make
it...and no your lightswitch is NOT a solution, and im the one who CAN make
a lightswitch, you just don't know how to stay on topic.

this ends here

lest we digress from the original topic beyond recognition, for as iv seen
on several other post this is precedent with you. you stray so far off the
original topic, the post's updates become negligible to the original
meaning.
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Jul 28, 2004, 3:44am

It would be cool to have the world lighting change according to the position
of the sun and moon as well :D

Jul 28, 2004, 4:44pm

Indeed!
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Jul 28, 2004, 4:58pm

I misunderstood because you didn't properly word what you meant.

Oh and you're now filtered for being such a moron.

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Jul 28, 2004, 5:01pm

Uh, it already does (to the "sun" anyway). As the world light source ("the sun") position changes, so does the light direction.

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Jul 28, 2004, 5:01pm

Isn't your news reader extremely slow from the size of your filter list?

- Mark

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Jul 28, 2004, 5:03pm

Nope...and, compared to Usenet newsgroups, AW's newsgroups have barely any filters on them (since I reset them since coming back). Just hu and c p are in them now though...

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Jul 28, 2004, 7:25pm

I worded it perfectly fine, admit your fault eep, your arrogance isn't very
becoming, you misread it, just because you were at fault is no reason to
push it on someone else, you CAN be wrong. and did you not understand the
ending paragraph?

"THIS ENDS HERE"

if that's not proper enough for you well it means NO MORE, en español No
más, in French non plus, any language its the same, now shush before you
become even more of a jerk!

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Jul 28, 2004, 8:44pm

That's nada mas :)

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Jul 28, 2004, 8:57pm

nu uh :)

no más, to say NO more lol, nada mas would be nothing more :)

*fluent*
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Jul 28, 2004, 9:01pm

LMAO what a soap opera *gets more popcorn*

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Jul 28, 2004, 9:27pm

aye!
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Jul 30, 2004, 6:26am

Interesting. I didn't realize that.

Jul 30, 2004, 6:33am

I have to agree with Eep here. Your initial post was too nebulous to get an
accurate understanding of exactly what you wanted. ;)

Jul 30, 2004, 6:35am

No, it's "nada más." That's just the way they say it. Not all phrases are
supposed to be literally translated into Spanish. Didn't you learn that in
Spanish class?

Jul 30, 2004, 4:51pm

no...its no más!!! oh my lord lol, Spanish class, did we not see the
"fluent" and I just asked the foreign exchange student over my friends
house... no más is correct...lol
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