AW 3.1 (Wishlist)

AW 3.1 // Wishlist

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mix master

Feb 17, 2003, 5:20am
I seriously think that AW build 3.1 should not require a forced upgrade
because I have talked to people that say 3.1 runs fine on their computer but
anything above that is terrible and they lock up when trying to do
stuff....this forces them to end up spending hundreds upgrading their video
components instead of just running a piece of software that is better for
their system.

carlbanks

Feb 17, 2003, 11:08am
Uhh didn't you read. 3.2's 402 and stuff have things that are required for
the price plan to work.

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brock

Feb 17, 2003, 1:09pm
Actually u can get a good video card for 100 bucks which is nice

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neocube a

Feb 17, 2003, 1:20pm
please do tell......

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brock

Feb 17, 2003, 1:34pm
get a GeForce 4 MX 440

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=manufactory&catalog=48&manu
factory=1283&DEPA=1&sortby=14&order=1

First one.

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mix master

Feb 17, 2003, 3:37pm
yeah well what i was trying to say is that on my friends' crappy computers
3.1 ran fine, no lag, fast as anything. but as soon as 3.2 came out they
cant even load stuff.....what kinda customer satisfaction is that?

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mix master

Feb 17, 2003, 3:38pm
You should always try to keep your customers happy before you worry about
anything else...but those seem to be times of the past.

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brock

Feb 17, 2003, 4:05pm
Well customers need to get with the times.

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mix master

Feb 17, 2003, 4:06pm
what if cusomers are like me and cannot afford to get with the times? (I
havea good computer thank goodness...but still)

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bowen

Feb 17, 2003, 4:18pm
[View Quote] If you can't keep up then you really shouldn't be worrying about 3d applications that
require extensive resources. They're not going to put production on hold (more
money) just because some of their customer base can't afford to upgrade. Which then
means they probably don't have the resources to invest in your application.

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the joker ss

Feb 17, 2003, 5:23pm
its like complaining to ID software that Doom 3 wont run on my pentium 100

bowen

Feb 17, 2003, 6:01pm
[View Quote] Exactly. Although I agree the gap shouldn't be huge as to encompass every processor
speed in the books, it should run halfway decently on a machine 1/4 the speed of the
developmental one. So if you're using high end 2 GHz machines, it should run... but
not very well on a ~600 MHz machine with all the bells and whistles at half
performance.

--Bowen--

technozeus

Feb 20, 2003, 7:40am
Well, it's taking a long time but I think there's a good chance that those lockup isues and such may be eliminated by the time AW 3.4 is released. I hope so, anyway.

TechnoZeus

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technozeus

Feb 20, 2003, 7:43am
Build 402 runs fine for most people... and loads fast too, mainly because it doesn't have all of the contact list extras.

Here's a wish... I wish there was a place to download older builds. :)

TechnoZeus

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technozeus

Feb 20, 2003, 7:56am
AW 3.4 beta build 457 runs fine on my slower ~133 MHz computer, if I don't mind the time it takes to get started.

I think they've done a very good job of keeping the old computers from completely giving up on Active Worlds. Especially when you consider that every decision that favors the slower machines over the faster machines means extra work that does nothing for the company directly. The only thing they get for it, really, is our gratitude... and on the average I think it's safe to say that people with slow computers put a lot less effort into showing the company how thankful they are then the company puts into keeping their slow computers from being unable to run newer versions of Active Worlds.

It's nice to see some effort in the direction of doing nice things for existing and expecially long standing citizens, and I think the company should be commended for it... or at least rewarded by a little positive word of mouth advertising to encourage them think of such positive actions as worth while. :)

TechnoZeus

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grimble grimble2000@btinternet:com

Feb 20, 2003, 9:08am
Have you just discovered this newsgroup as new, unconquered territory TZ?

Grims

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technozeus

Feb 20, 2003, 6:58pm
No. Why do you ask that? I've just been too busy to get to it for a while.

TechnoZeus

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grimble grimble2000@btinternet:com

Feb 20, 2003, 7:31pm
heh heh ... funny.

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mix master

Feb 22, 2003, 11:52pm
What good would that do? You cant use em Unless theres some stoneage old
universe out there running a 2.2 server lol.

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technozeus

Feb 23, 2003, 4:24am
You can still run builds all the way back to version 3.2, build 402, in the main universe, and older builds in any universe that chooses to allow it, plus you can run them in stand-alone mode, but if you can't get ahold of them and don't have them already then you obviously can't run them at all. This is particularly a problem for serious beta testers who would like to be able to help track down exactly when and how some old bugs came into existance but have limited space in which to store back-up copies of old builds.

TechnoZeus

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tony m

Feb 23, 2003, 4:31am
[View Quote] >You can still run builds all the way back to version 3.2, build 402, in the main universe, and older builds in any universe that chooses to allow it, plus you can run them in stand-alone mode, but if you can't get ahold of them and don't have them already then you obviously can't run them at all. This is particularly a problem for serious beta testers who would like to be able to help track down exactly when and how some old bugs came into existance but have limited space in which to store back-up copies of old builds.

If you play around with the browser's upgrade.exe component, you can get older builds.

technozeus

Feb 23, 2003, 4:40am
Care to tell me how? I thought all you could get with that was the available upgrade patches.

TechnoZeus

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tony m

Feb 23, 2003, 5:24am
[View Quote] >Care to tell me how? I thought all you could get with that was the available upgrade patches.

This is how it's supposed to work, but I've done some testing of my own (as I discussed with you in telegram) and have found it harder to go backwards (due to how the index for objects.activeworlds.com/upgrade is blocked, and how I haven't tinkered with this in a long time).

These are the three parameters upgrade.exe expects:

1. objects.activeworlds.com
2. upgrade/kit<BUILD #>.rtp
3. aworld.exe

So this is what you might enter for Start->Run (change path as necessary...)

E:\AW31\Upgrade.exe objects.activeworlds.com upgrade/kit375.rtp aworld.exe

Putting 375 in for <BUILD #> bumps you up to AW 3.2 build 402. I attempted to go backwards by entering 300; what happened was, the upgrader didn't want to replace anything except the (2.2) splash screen. I guess AWI did more than just block the directory listing.

technozeus

Feb 24, 2003, 4:58am
Yes, for a long time now it has been (to my understanding) working only as a patch utility, such that if any file it is intended to replace doesn't perfectly match what it expects that file will simply be skipped. I would guess that this depends more on the particular "kit" than anything else.

TechnoZeus

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