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3.4 wish // WishlistanduinJul 25, 2002, 6:18am
In a galaxy far far away, known as wishlist, an identify claiming to
be known as "the derek" <imthederek at yahoo.com> scribed the following: >i wish that in 3.4 the terrian IS NOT SO DARK!!!!! > > > >'nuff said :P Is it not possible to add your own textures to terrain in the world you own? Therefor it would have nothing to do with the new version of AW, but a simple change of textures in the OP? Correct me if I'm wrong, I've never really bothered playing around with all these new and nifty features :o) ,,,,, (o o) /--------------ooO--(_)--Ooo--------------\ | Anduin (317281) | | o The Gorean Scribe | | o http://www.anduin-lothario.com | | o World: GorSJ (18+ Only) | \--------------ooO-------Ooo--------------/ billybobJul 25, 2002, 4:42pm
No, i beleive that the terrain settings are a bit darker, of course you
could probably just upload really bright textures...but the point still stands, the terrain itself is a bit dark. brantJul 25, 2002, 7:47pm
What Derek is referring to is that the terrain is affected by the
directional light too much, and the ambient light is ignored, unlike in real life. Thus, if both the directional light and ambient light were bright white, but the angle of the sun was, say, 3 degrees above the horizon, the terrain would be pitch black. [View Quote] the derekJul 26, 2002, 1:28am
yes if you have a ground and a terrain with the same texture... the terrain
will semm like its NIGHT and will be VERY DARK. i dont know how to brighten textures... but that would probably make them look different and probably wouldnt have too much of an effect [View Quote] the joker ssJul 26, 2002, 8:03am
try this in the directional light settings .
Direction : X: 0 Y: -0.1 Z: 0 i hope this helps , worked out in my world . "the derek" <imthederek at yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:3d40c1d2 at server1.Activeworlds.com... > yes if you have a ground and a terrain with the same texture... the terrain > will semm like its NIGHT and will be VERY DARK. i dont know how to brighten > textures... but that would probably make them look different and probably > wouldnt have too much of an effect [View Quote] grimbleJul 26, 2002, 5:21pm
There's no point in comparing the terrain directly to a ground object.
Because the ground object is just that, an object, and you can specify the ambient and diffuse light settings as with any model. The only difference here isn't that the terrain is too dark but that the surface values of the terrain can't be changed whereas on the ground objects they can be. The ground objects blindly used in a lot of worlds have a high surface values for ambient and diffuse lighting, hence they're atrificially bright. This whole issue has been covered before in previous wishlist threads. After some playing, I believe the equivalent surface settings used in the terrain surfaces are 0.2 1.0 (for Ambient and Diffuse respectively). If its arbitrarily changed, I for one will have to change other objects to match it. What is needed is the ability to specify the surface lighting values for the terrain, and not just a change so its "NOT SO DARK". Just for info, generally a request that basically says "change it" isn't going to be given any creedence from anyone. This is a wishlist ... not a wingelist. If you think something would be better if implemented differently, try doing some investigation and then suggesting what needs to be changed rather than crying about it. Grims [View Quote] the derekJul 26, 2002, 10:39pm
that made it almost black... grim. was right there needs to be an option. i
never noticed the ground was made to be bright [View Quote] dionJul 29, 2002, 1:33pm
He's got a point. Rather than changing the terrain light settings, the light
settings of other objects in the world need to be changed to match. [View Quote] grimbleJul 29, 2002, 3:48pm
Don't get me wrong, I'm only hilighting the correct issue here. 0.2 Ambient
and 1.0 Diffuse are still really bad settings. [View Quote] eepJul 29, 2002, 5:24pm
Yes, terrain should be surface .5 1 0--of course, they should really support action commands and even be RWX-editable via the world options (changing per-terrain-cell textureaddressmode, mipmapstate, lightsampling, surface, etc, etc). Changing all object surface settings to match the terrain's screwy ones is just silly. The terrain simply needs to be more configurable since it's essentially useless in its currently designed state.
Increase line length to reduce/eliminate quoted text breakup. I had to fix your broken quoted lines. Compare how much better it looks than with your previous quoted text. [View Quote] > Don't get me wrong, I'm only hilighting the correct issue here. 0.2 Ambient > and 1.0 Diffuse are still really bad settings. > [View Quote] young shamusJul 29, 2002, 8:48pm
Yes, ambient and diffuse settings should be a world option. This is on the
list of 3.4 things I want to do, but have yet to schedule. As for adding rwx commands and such, that is a long ways off, due to the required complexity. -- Shamus Young Email: shamus at activeworlds.com Homepage: http://www.shamusyoung.com [View Quote] eepJul 29, 2002, 9:04pm
How about at least using a configuration text file with bump noises for the terrain textures? That would at least make terrain actually useful for me anyway since, as you know, having a terrain cell vertically near a bumpable object causes the bump trigger to fail. A mipmap state command would be nice too but it's not as important.
In the meantime, don't you think the terrain's surface settings should at least be the standard .5 .3 0 setting common in AW? I recommend .5 1 0 because I've found it to be the most realistic for outdoors (and the most reactive to directional lighting). .2 ambient (if that's what it is now) is just too dark. [View Quote] > Yes, ambient and diffuse settings should be a world option. This is on the > list of 3.4 things I want to do, but have yet to schedule. > > As for adding rwx commands and such, that is a long ways off, due to the > required complexity. > [View Quote] |