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Jun 28, 2002, 2:38am

for a while at least.

Just a wish - they are annoying :(

Jun 28, 2002, 2:50am

Nah, just Insanity/Filmkr/whoever else would do the trick. That seems to be
their guinea pig for now.

--Bowen--

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Jun 28, 2002, 2:56am

The problem is, that they bring stuff to the news that
should go by email.

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Jun 28, 2002, 3:00am

It is general discussion though :) That post got so offtopic though... AW
needs a flame newsgroup as well for this kind of stuff. Going to Andras' is
such a pain in the rump.

--Bowen--

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Jun 28, 2002, 3:20am

you can block their posts in most newsgroup readers.
Also, you can just simply ignore them.
And uh.. this doesn't really belong in wishlist, you know that this isn't
for this sort of crap. Keep it to community or general discussion.

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Jun 28, 2002, 3:48am

hey we restrained it to the relevant group and we are not the only posters
on the thread ... why block one side you don't like ... not very fair :( ...
my wish is people would respect that others have the right to voice an
opinion!

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Jun 28, 2002, 4:49am

This isn't "one side that I don't like", but you miss-used
a CyAwards announcement for your PRIVATE wars.

Give it an own thread and I can ignore the thread. I do not
ignore a person.

Jun 28, 2002, 8:20am

Because you've brought this out of the other group I feel I best explain
what I did for those who dont read the other group

When Alpha anounced the committee members list I thought it was
inappropriate that Insanity be included considering his most recent
defrauding of a community member. I simply asked that Alpha reconsider his
participation in the hope that it not smear the cyawards. This was not a
private "war" but a genuine concern for the community ... when people
defended the guys actions it was only reasonable I explain why I thought
what I thought ... the thread then evolved. This is not a war ... its due
process.

Do you also feel that people are not entitled to an opinion if it disagrees
with yours? Gee I'm sorry if you find that annoying but that's life ... get
used to it ... it'd be a damn boring place if we all agreed on everything.

I do not understand what you mean by "give it an own thread" ... that's
precisely what it had AND in the relevant forum. This forum is not
appropriate for this discussion and I'd ask you to take it back there for
your comments. If you say something about a person, expect they have the
right to reply. Other than that there's not much else I can say.

Glitter

(on holiday and posting via dial up(yuk) so cant reply as quick as before)

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Jun 28, 2002, 11:09am

Well, Flagg claims he is banning people, I sent an email to him, below is his reply (with my
original text as well):

Hi Rhane,

Thank you for taking the time to bring these posts to my attention.

It is impossible for us, at this time, to monitor every post in every NG and
we rely on people like yourself to point out to us the ones we miss. If
possible please let me know the specific NG these posts are listed under and
the headings of each thread. Thank you.


Sincerely

Tom Fournier
Customer Service / Sales Manager
Activeworlds.com Inc.
95 Parker St.
Newburyport, MA 01950

www.activeworlds.com

*(PLEASE INCLUDE ALL PREVIOUS DIALOG IN ALL REPLIES TO ENSURE A FAST AND
ACCURATE RESPONSE)*

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rhane Colwell" <RhaneC at msn.com>
To: <abuse at activeworlds.com>; <tom at activeworlds.com>
Cc: <insanity at heartfall.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 6:41 AM
Subject: Abuse towards Insanity/Filmkr in NG's


Perhaps the rules stating about newsgroup bans should be done, not preached.
Insanity has been personally attacked. Below is my proof. I would appreciate
it if something was done.

<< not posting names of examples given >>

Of course there is more, but I won't read every message, it is your job to
keep up to date with the NG's.
Rhane C. Colwell

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Jun 28, 2002, 12:06pm

You know, the community has quite a bit more member than just the people posting on your side of
the debate. If Insanity was voted in, then the majority of the community appreciates his honesty
and contributions, and thought he was an legitimate, unbiased, and prudent judge. Stop saying,
or inferring in your context, that the whole community thinks he was dishonest when it is
absolutely a complete lie and is slanderous.

- YP

[View Quote] When Alpha anounced the committee members list I thought it was
inappropriate that Insanity be included considering his most recent
defrauding of a community member. I simply asked that Alpha reconsider his
participation in the hope that it not smear the cyawards. This was not a
private "war" but a genuine concern for the community ... when people
defended the guys actions it was only reasonable I explain why I thought
what I thought ... the thread then evolved. This is not a war ... its due
process.

Do you also feel that people are not entitled to an opinion if it disagrees
with yours? Gee I'm sorry if you find that annoying but that's life ... get
used to it ... it'd be a damn boring place if we all agreed on everything.

I do not understand what you mean by "give it an own thread" ... that's
precisely what it had AND in the relevant forum. This forum is not
appropriate for this discussion and I'd ask you to take it back there for
your comments. If you say something about a person, expect they have the
right to reply. Other than that there's not much else I can say.

Glitter

(on holiday and posting via dial up(yuk) so cant reply as quick as before)

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Jun 28, 2002, 12:22pm

Actually, it means that the majority of the *voters* decided he should be voted in.

-Agent1

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Jun 28, 2002, 12:36pm

Being a part of the community should mean that you participate in votes such as that too.

- YP

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Jun 28, 2002, 1:34pm

please take this back to the appropriate forum ... it does not belong here

Glitter

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Jun 28, 2002, 3:52pm

It still goes on in the thread "Cy Nominations Officially Open!",
where it should not even have started. If you had conzerns you
could as well have sent them to Alphabit Phalpha in EMail, she
is a nice person and she would sure have agreed to meet you and
discuss it.


I started this thread with a wish - and it's still stand to
this wish.

Reading 200 or more hate posts in a thread that would have
interested me - not nice. If you would have continued it in
"your" thread, I wouldn't be mad about that - although I don't
like people fighting eachother - but I have seen more than one
flame war thread, and I somehow got used to it :(


If you want custom avatars, download some from oct31.de and
modify them, my stuff isn't as good as Insanity's, but maybe
you find something you like. I will not get involved in this
whole thing between Insanity and you, I will not take party,
although I know and respect Insanity. It's your and his problem.

My problem is just that I don't want to read those childish
accusations of you both anymore in a thread where it should
not be.



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Jun 30, 2002, 9:39am

I agree that I got carried away. It was anger and stress. I do hope you
saw my apology, and statement that i would no longer be posting to that
thread, which I posted before you posted this.

I might point out to you that Young Phalpha posted more than twice as many
messages to that thread than I did, and more than a dozen more than glitter
kitty (ambi=23, glitter kitty=44, YP=58). Yet you did not find YP annoying
as well? Even more annoying? It really does make it look like you only get
annoyed by those whose opinion and experience differs from your own.

Jun 30, 2002, 10:04am

wanted to clarify that my message is to ananas in response to his initial
post in this thread.

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