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can i use bot to copy my building work in alpha world? (Bots)

can i use bot to copy my building work in alpha world? // Bots

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lexxus

Dec 16, 1999, 10:28am
if so how plz.

holistic1

Dec 16, 1999, 11:56am
Sorry, except for extremely rare occurances, you cannot
use bots in ActiveWorlds.

Terry

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sagaman

Dec 16, 1999, 2:00pm
Not so. You can't run them near GZ and you're not supposed to use any
automated building software which even includes keyboard macros and
certainly builder bots but "copy", as in record objects, why not? Of course
using the recording to restore or duplicate objects would be a violation.

Norm


> Sorry, except for extremely rare occurances, you cannot
> use bots in ActiveWorlds

sagaman

Dec 16, 1999, 2:04pm
From http://www.activeworlds.com/terms.html

4. Using any automated building tools (including "robobuilder" or keyboard
macros) in AlphaWorld.

We reserve the right to suspend or remove any world, objects or properties
from the Active Worlds universe which is brought to our attention and which
we find, in our sole discretion, violates any of these content guidelines or
otherwise is in violation of the law.

AWCI does not actively monitor the content of the worlds in Active Worlds,
but we will investigate complaints of violation of these guidelines.

lexxus

Dec 16, 1999, 3:03pm
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holistic1

Dec 16, 1999, 4:21pm
Hmmm.... It seems that is what I said.

Terry

[View Quote] > From http://www.activeworlds.com/terms.html
>
> 4. Using any automated building tools (including "robobuilder" or keyboard
> macros) in AlphaWorld.
>
> We reserve the right to suspend or remove any world, objects or properties
> from the Active Worlds universe which is brought to our attention and which
> we find, in our sole discretion, violates any of these content guidelines or
> otherwise is in violation of the law.
>
> AWCI does not actively monitor the content of the worlds in Active Worlds,
> but we will investigate complaints of violation of these guidelines.

canopus

Dec 16, 1999, 5:20pm
I think the rule was intended to protect AlphaWorld against runaway
robobuilders & the like. If you just copy your tourist building, nobody
could have any good reason to complain (the rule specifically says that
AW only responds to complaints, reserving the right to decide what is
both automated & obnoxious).
You should first survey your tourist building with a surveyor bot,
then give the survey to a builder bot as a blueprint to rebuild under
your own citizen name. This was one of the original purposes for
construction bots, & many tourist-built homes have been saved this way.
There are several construction bots that can be downloaded for free from
http://www.canopus.org/construction/construction.html, & you can read
the help files for the bots which are also online at the same site. If
your tourist site is fairly small, the easiest surveyor to use is the
VisualSurveyor; there also is a TouristSurveyor specially for Tourist
buildings. You can edit with a VisualEditor or SurveyEditor, & when
you're satisfied you've got everything you want to rebuild, save the
survey as a blueprint. Then have a BuilderBot build it.


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sagaman

Dec 17, 1999, 12:34am
> Hmmm.... It seems that is what I said

No, what you said was...

> Sorry, except for extremely rare occurances, you cannot
> use bots in ActiveWorlds

Which was nonsense.

holistic1

Dec 17, 1999, 10:27am
Well then, please be my guest. :)



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> No, what you said was...
>
>
> Which was nonsense.

lexxus

Dec 17, 1999, 11:45am
[View Quote] > You should first survey your tourist building with a surveyor bot,
ok, i've dled the caVisualSurveyor.exe stuff but where is the source
code? who wrote it? It starts by asking me for my priv password, which
slightly unnerves me :(

Many thanks for all the lucid explanation in your post.

BTW i've seen the Mars stuff, very nice!

canopus

Dec 17, 1999, 5:06pm
A bot needs a privilege password to build in your name, just like any
other citizen would.
All the bot programs on the canopus website were written by me. I use
them myself (the entire site at Mars 23N 500W was surveyed by a SpyBot
at the original location & then rebuilt, rotated 90 degrees, by a
BuilderBot); I give them away (with the usual disclaimers), & lots of
people have done construction with them. Some people are even using
caArtifact.exe to create their own artifacts.
You're right to be cautious about downloading & running executables
off the web, though. You could start by checking the SDK Newsgroup,
where you can get an impression of the bot programmers at work--a more
helpful & mutually open group could hardly be imagined. People have
often posted sample source code there. We Delphi programmers posted a
lot of source code, including an encapsulation of the SDK itself, as
attachments to messages. The same applies to the C, VB, & Java bot
programmers.

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serac

Dec 21, 1999, 10:08am
SeedBots are still accepted, correct?


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bulbaboy

Dec 23, 1999, 1:59am
Simple. Just go to http://www.canopus.org/consturction/constuction.html and
download one of the two surveybots, editbots and the ONE builderbot so you
can make a survey of what you want to copy, then turn it into a blueprint
and then give it to a builderbot. And yes, I know some of this text is in
blue.


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