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Jul 11, 1998, 2:17am

It sounds really difficult but is it possible to create a mirror object in
AW. The main reason I ask is because I am trying out different avatars but
can't see the faces. I could download them and use rwmod or something but it
isn't that important.

Edward Sumerfield, esumerfd at msn.com
http://members.xoom.com/esumerfd

Jul 13, 1998, 10:17am

A little course in 3D graphics:

Mirrors would obviously require a reflection effect that is only possible in
Phong tracing technique, and still it doesn't work well, or in Ray Trace
technique, which makes good reflections. AW uses techniques that are much
simpler, and so mirrors are to stay a dream.

you could always run AW browser twice on your computer, have your two avatars
face each other, so that one could see the other. I haven't tried, but it just
might work....

Skander

[View Quote] > It sounds really difficult but is it possible to create a mirror object in
> AW. The main reason I ask is because I am trying out different avatars but
> can't see the faces. I could download them and use rwmod or something but it
> isn't that important.
>
> Edward Sumerfield, esumerfd at msn.com
> http://members.xoom.com/esumerfd



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Jul 13, 1998, 4:19pm

When you run the second aw it just brings the first version into focus. You
would have to have two separate installations so that you don't get any
cache corruption but even with two separate executables in two separate
installation directories it will only run the one program.

I don't know if this is a feature of AW or windows. Maybe someone knows how
to get around this.

Edward Sumerfield, esumerfd at msn.com
http://members.xoom.com/esumerfd

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Jul 13, 1998, 5:31pm

The simplest way would be for Roland to add an option to "allow multiple
instance"

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Jul 13, 1998, 5:56pm

Mmm... not exactly
the mirror object could act as a render window inside th render window
and the mirror could render all objects in fornt of it until a certain
distance that is set is reached and than it will not render objects any
further than that trust me I know it will work :)

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Jul 13, 1998, 7:24pm

It would also halve the framerate.

[View Quote] > Mmm... not exactly
> the mirror object could act as a render window inside th render window
> and the mirror could render all objects in fornt of it until a certain
> distance that is set is reached and than it will not render objects any
> further than that trust me I know it will work :)

Jul 21, 1998, 11:06pm

I guess none of you have ever been to the first Virtual Chat environment
Worlds.Inc produced...

If you go to WC (Worlds Chat Gold) as a registered user and teleport
into the "Glee" pod... go through the Door into the hallway and look for
the room named "Glee". As you enter the room you will see your avatar in
a large mirror. Fairly realistic. If you go into the mirror there is a
sound of crashing glass and you land in a maze. If you turn around and
face the mirror again you do not see you avatar, but you can see anyone
that is on the other side viewing their reflection (one way mirror
too!).

This is not new stuff... very old stuff... it was even there before the
release of WC. It is at least as old as AW itself!

Later!

zer0

Jul 21, 1998, 11:29pm

Actually, I was in WC before i came to AW! WC was brand new at the time,
too... In fact, i think i remember the update where they added the mirror.
That's not really a VR "mirror" tho, zer0- it was just an illusion concocted
to look like a mirror. AW can do the same thing, graphical-wize. WC just
added the sprite to it, to make you think you saw yourself :-) Unless they
added more to it since I've been there, it was never able to show any
avatars other than your own...

grover

[View Quote] > I guess none of you have ever been to the first Virtual Chat environment
> Worlds.Inc produced...
>
> If you go to WC (Worlds Chat Gold) as a registered user and teleport
> into the "Glee" pod... go through the Door into the hallway and look for
> the room named "Glee". As you enter the room you will see your avatar in
> a large mirror. Fairly realistic. If you go into the mirror there is a
> sound of crashing glass and you land in a maze. If you turn around and
> face the mirror again you do not see you avatar, but you can see anyone
> that is on the other side viewing their reflection (one way mirror
> too!).
>
> This is not new stuff... very old stuff... it was even there before the
> release of WC. It is at least as old as AW itself!
>
> Later!
>
> zer0

Jul 21, 1998, 11:31pm

<HTML>
Ha... I remember that room... I thot' my Penguin body (Avatar) was rather
dashing at the time... Ya... It's been mentioned before that a mirror was
in Worlds Chat long before Alpha... Would be nice if we could have this
feature in Alpha too...

[View Quote] <P>If you go to WC (Worlds Chat Gold) as a registered user and teleport
<BR>into the "Glee" pod... go through the Door into the hallway and look
for
<BR>the room named "Glee". As you enter the room you will see your avatar
in
<BR>a large mirror. Fairly realistic. If you go into the mirror there is
a
<BR>sound of crashing glass and you land in a maze. If you turn around
and
<BR>face the mirror again you do not see you avatar, but you can see anyone
<BR>that is on the other side viewing their reflection (one way mirror
<BR>too!).

<P>This is not new stuff... very old stuff... it was even there before
the
<BR>release of WC. It is at least as old as AW itself!

<P>Later!

<P>zer0</BLOCKQUOTE>
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Jul 21, 1998, 11:49pm

i'm pretty sure AW was at least in limited beta testing before they put
the mirror in WC... still would be a nice feature tho! but a roving 3D
camera might be a better solution?

grover

[View Quote] > Ha... I remember that room... I thot' my Penguin body (Avatar) was
> rather dashing at the time... Ya... It's been mentioned before that a
> mirror was in Worlds Chat long before Alpha... Would be nice if we
> could have this feature in Alpha too...
>
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Jul 22, 1998, 1:46am

Anyone else remember that panel behind the maze? If you approached it just
right, you could go into the WC outerspace. Be careful about talking down
to your audience, zer0. :))))

grover <steve at synergycorp.com> wrote in article
<35B5407C.16C0F27B at synergycorp.com>...
> Actually, I was in WC before i came to AW! WC was brand new at the time,
> too... In fact, i think i remember the update where they added the
mirror.
> That's not really a VR "mirror" tho, zer0- it was just an illusion
concocted
> to look like a mirror. AW can do the same thing, graphical-wize. WC
just
> added the sprite to it, to make you think you saw yourself :-) Unless
they
> added more to it since I've been there, it was never able to show any
> avatars other than your own...
>
> grover
>
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Jul 22, 1998, 6:34pm

They was *every* corner, Xav! I remember when we first discovered that...
everyone kept asking how we got outside, hehe

grover

[View Quote] > Anyone else remember that panel behind the maze? If you approached it just
> right, you could go into the WC outerspace. Be careful about talking down
> to your audience, zer0. :))))
>
> grover <steve at synergycorp.com> wrote in article
> <35B5407C.16C0F27B at synergycorp.com>...
> mirror.
> concocted
> just
> they
> environment
> for
> in

Jul 25, 1998, 4:02am

So tell us how to get to this WC. Do you have the URL?
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Jul 25, 1998, 4:06pm

http://www.worlds.net

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