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Join Enhancement Needed! (Wishlist)
Join Enhancement Needed! // Wishlistzer0Jun 21, 1998, 8:25pm
Hey Roland!
Most people seem to keep "Join" disabled. Even the ones that use it seem to toggle it off and on. I leave mine on all the time. We need a way to tell before we attempt to Join a user on our contact list that they have Join enabled. I realize this must require an attempt to join them is made before the browser knows if their side is enabled or not (and it changes all the time!). Would it be possible to go out at initialization when the broswer is first coming up and hit each online user for a request to Join that is just to see if it is enabled at their end? Might have to have the responding end send just an Ack or something... because we don't want to really go join them... just define if it is currently possible. If that could be done, then the only other thing required would be to color code the check mark in the contact list... RED = Online but no Join... GREEN = Online and free to Join. Would make Join much more useful! zer0 zandorfaJun 22, 1998, 2:49pm
Actually.. I would much prefer that a telegram request pop up when a person
tries to join. I consider it downright rude for anyone to issue a join request without contacting someone via a telegram first. I will not accept such joins and usually respond via a telegram my thoughts on the subject. You have no idea what the person might be doing. If they are in a meeting,etc. Ergo, I would not be in favor of having everyone that has me on their contact list given the ability to know on site if they could join me or not, especially just cause they feel like joining someone. A telegram pop up would cause the person to at least be polite and ask to join first. [View Quote] zer0Jun 22, 1998, 9:51pm
Ok... no problem... one more color code for the Check mark...
RED=Disabled GREEN=Enabled BLUE=Enabled but Antisocial - request required :) zer0 [View Quote] technozeusJun 23, 1998, 4:22am
Different people have different ideas of antisocial. Personally, I would
feel rather offended if someone joined me simply because I was the only person on their contact list who had not set AW to keep people from joining them. I almost always leave it set to ask my permission before a join, but I rarely decline a request when I am alone and not "very" busy. If a friend "just" needs someone to talk to, I would preffer they tell me so rather than pretending that they actually wanted to talk to "me" in particular, and they can easily do that by telegram. As for someone I barely know "just" looking for "someone" to talk to, I don't mind the idea, but since I'm usually helping people, I would rather let them find someone else how also "just" want's someone to talk to. There are plenty of people who fit that description at any given time. Yes, it would be nice to be able to "tell" Active Worlds that you are available to talk to "anyone" when that is the case, but that's not the same as just being willing to accept join requests from friends or telegrams with a purpose. I have nothing against wanting to find someone to talk to when you're lonely. I get lonely too, and I'm not afraid to admit it, but although I do understand some people's need to talk to "anyone" when they get lonely, that's not the way we all work. Personally, I would rather send a message to a good friend saying that I need someone to talk to and would appreciate them contacting me when they have the time... or if I want to talk to someone specific, I simply tell them so. It may seem crude, and you may consider it antisocial, but that's all a matter of opinion. As for enhancements to the join request, it would be nice to see a few, but I'm sure there are many opinions about which ones are best, and which ones would actually be "bad" to have. The best thing we can do for now is just what we're doing here. Give our thoughts and opinions to each other, and see what evolves. TechnoZeus [View Quote] zandorfaJun 23, 1998, 4:46pm
Sorry zero.. but not accepting joins doesn't make one anti-social. Isn't
it a real world common courtesy (read polite) to call someone before you go to visit them? Sending a join without calling first is rude. Man.. lots of cyber relationships would really be ruined!! Sooo.. <eg> Perhaps there should be something by someones name that says.. Yellow - Exceptionally Rude, joins without calling first? hee hee Zzzzzzz [View Quote] builderzJun 24, 1998, 11:21am
Usually when someone tries to join me, either I keep AW running while I'm
away from my computer, or I'm building at a particular location that I don't want anyone else to see quite yet. Maybe we could sort of copy ICQ's way of handling this... For example we could have: BRB Mode (You will be back in a short while) AFK Mode (You are away from your computer) Building Mode (You are building and do not wish to be disturbed) Chat Mode / Join Mode (You want to be joined by anyone and everybody ;-) This is just a "rough" suggestion or idea. Anyone like it? ;-) -Builderz [View Quote] > Hey Roland! > > Most people seem to keep "Join" disabled. Even the ones that use it seem > to toggle it off and on. I leave mine on all the time. We need a way to > tell before we attempt to Join a user on our contact list that they have > Join enabled. I realize this must require an attempt to join them is > made before the browser knows if their side is enabled or not (and it > changes all the time!). Would it be possible to go out at initialization > when the broswer is first coming up and hit each online user for a > request to Join that is just to see if it is enabled at their end? Might > have to have the responding end send just an Ack or something... because > we don't want to really go join them... just define if it is currently > possible. > > If that could be done, then the only other thing required would be to > color code the check mark in the contact list... RED = Online but no > Join... GREEN = Online and free to Join. Would make Join much more > useful! > > zer0 zandorfaJun 25, 1998, 4:24pm
Actually.. it is a great idea for not only joins, but telegrams as well. :))
If I am in a meeting or some such thing <g> like a building frenzy, I hate to be rude and not answer telegrams. But there are times, when it is difficult to answer right away. I am on call all the time with the GK's so there are some I have to answer. Hmmmmm even having a way to personalize an away message would be great. :)) Tho, lol.. I could just imagine some of the away messages that might be written. <G> Zzzzz |