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May 13, 1998, 3:04pm

Hello,

I would be personnaly very interested to begin to build (wrap) kind of
real application with active
world as the user computer interface. (such as electronic commerce
applications).
I would also very much like like to explore populating active world with
articficial agents.
(agents that goes beyond robot builder, and that are able to really
interact with the environnement).

For this it would be usefull to have access to an API and a protocol.

We could for instance imagine to have a richer action part of the
rendereware object, or something similar.
For instance, when I would click on an object, I would trigger a query
in a database.

We could also imagine that the protocole would allow us to get some
information about the environment such as who are
the avatars next to me, but also allow some registration to some
trigerring events. For instance, tell me when a new message
was posted on the chatboard. This could very usefull to implement
chaterbots in active world. (I believ that Blaxxun has began to do
something in this direction).


I would be interested to have your ideas in that subject.


Roland (and other people of COF), could would please let me (and the
people of this group) know what you
think about opening the system and allowing to connect to other
application and write bots.
Is it:
* not considered as enough important. (not the priority now)
* too risky. (the bots in IRC are for instance a nuisance).
* to time consuming to develop.
* to complicate (at a technical level, at a business level)
* etc.

Do you think to do something in this direction. (what, when, etc.) ?

Thanks,

Thierry Nabeth
INSEAD CALT
http://www.insead.fr/CALT/

May 14, 1998, 9:00am

Supposedly, there have been bots in AW before (1+ years ago), but I've never seen any. An AW API has been rumored by Protagonist, but who knows if or when it actually will be developed. Hamfon is working on a bot program that uses TCP/IP (and whatever else--ask him for more info) and it should be released "soon". He said he was going beta with it a few days ago and asked for my email address but I haven't received anything yet.

[View Quote] > I would be personnaly very interested to begin to build (wrap) kind of
> real application with active
> world as the user computer interface. (such as electronic commerce
> applications).
> I would also very much like like to explore populating active world with
> articficial agents.
> (agents that goes beyond robot builder, and that are able to really
> interact with the environnement).
>
> For this it would be usefull to have access to an API and a protocol.
>
> We could for instance imagine to have a richer action part of the
> rendereware object, or something similar.
> For instance, when I would click on an object, I would trigger a query
> in a database.
>
> We could also imagine that the protocole would allow us to get some
> information about the environment such as who are
> the avatars next to me, but also allow some registration to some
> trigerring events. For instance, tell me when a new message
> was posted on the chatboard. This could very usefull to implement
> chaterbots in active world. (I believ that Blaxxun has began to do
> something in this direction).
>
> I would be interested to have your ideas in that subject.
>
> Roland (and other people of COF), could would please let me (and the
> people of this group) know what you
> think about opening the system and allowing to connect to other
> application and write bots.
> Is it:
> * not considered as enough important. (not the priority now)
> * too risky. (the bots in IRC are for instance a nuisance).
> * to time consuming to develop.
> * to complicate (at a technical level, at a business level)
> * etc.
>
> Do you think to do something in this direction. (what, when, etc.) ?

May 14, 1998, 3:23pm

Thank you Eep².


Please, if some of you have some information / interest in this domain, post an answer to this message in the newsgroup.

If there is enough material, I will collect this information to put it on a web page.

Two items could be considered:
* tools and technologies. (make include behaviours for avatars).
* applications.


Bye,


Thierry.

PS:
Collection of agents related resources I have collected. (not for alpha world, but in general):
http://www.insead.fr/CALT/Encyclopedia/ComputerSciences/Agents/


My collection of VR related resources:
http://www.insead.fr/CALT/Encyclopedia/ComputerSciences/VR/vr.htm


[View Quote] > Supposedly, there have been bots in AW before (1+ years ago), but I've never seen any. An AW API has been rumored by Protagonist, but who knows if or when it actually will be developed. Hamfon is working on a bot program that uses TCP/IP (and whatever else--ask him for more info) and it should be released "soon". He said he was going beta with it a few days ago and asked for my email address but I haven't received anything yet.
>
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May 14, 1998, 3:25pm

Post in reply to this item technologies and tools related to bots and agents in active worlds.

May 14, 1998, 3:26pm

Reply in this item about application of bots that you know about

May 14, 1998, 3:31pm

RoboBuilderhttp://users.netonecom.net/~lmauk/roboinfo.html

RoboBuilder is a program written in Visual Basic that takes control of your Active Worlds Browser.

It is used to automate some of the building actions.

Thierry Nabeth

PS:
I have nothing to do with RobotBuilder, but just reference the resource.

May 14, 1998, 3:51pm

You will find a robot greeter in the world $2KOOL.

Name: max kool

The bots greets you when you enter, and then automaticaly move to
different places.
You can use the joint command to follow this bots.

Dialogue when you enter the world:
============
Immigration Officer: Welcome to Koolworlds Space Castles, ***
max kool: HELLO Welcome to Koolworlds....
max kool: my name is MAX.....I'm a robot greeter for Koolworlds
max kool: the flashing buttons you see will transport you to KOOL sites
in this world.
max kool: Please look around and enjoy yourself.
===========

Thierry Nabeth
INSEAD CALT
http://www.insead.fr/CALT/

PS:
I read about this robots in one of the newsgroup.

May 15, 1998, 8:53am

Um, this has what to do with a wishlist? Most people here already know about RoboBuilder. This should be in worldbuilders, if any newsgroup.

[View Quote] > RoboBuilderhttp://users.netonecom.net/~lmauk/roboinfo.html
>
> RoboBuilder is a program written in Visual Basic that takes control of your Active Worlds Browser.
>
> It is used to automate some of the building actions.
>
> PS:
> I have nothing to do with RobotBuilder, but just reference the resource.

May 16, 1998, 7:44pm

Oops, you are right, this is not necessary the best place to put this com=
ment.

Yet, the idea was to me to try to gather a community of people interested=
about bots' and other similar
besties, and make them express their needs.

In have found now that the posting in the wishlist ask for things that do=
not try to see in the long
term. In other world, I believe there should be more "dream" wish and uto=
pies, even if those dreams will
take a very long time before becoming a reality.
Note: I am not at all for the very concret posting I have seen on the con=
trary. I just like sometimes
to find also a long term vision about what is being done, that's all.

Bye,

Thierry.

PS:
English is not my native language. Pardon me if I sometime make some err=
ors.

[View Quote] > Um, this has what to do with a wishlist? Most people here already know =
about RoboBuilder. This should be in worldbuilders, if any newsgroup.
>
[View Quote]

May 19, 1998, 10:59pm

yes, Hamfon has released his bot program as a beta . ... so far it's
looking pretty good =))

Fac.

[View Quote] > You will find a robot greeter in the world $2KOOL.
>
> Name: max kool
>
> The bots greets you when you enter, and then automaticaly move to
> different places.
> You can use the joint command to follow this bots.
>
> Dialogue when you enter the world:
> ============
> Immigration Officer: Welcome to Koolworlds Space Castles, ***
> max kool: HELLO Welcome to Koolworlds....
> max kool: my name is MAX.....I'm a robot greeter for Koolworlds
> max kool: the flashing buttons you see will transport you to KOOL sites
> in this world.
> max kool: Please look around and enjoy yourself.
> ===========
>
> Thierry Nabeth
> INSEAD CALT
> http://www.insead.fr/CALT/
>
> PS:
> I read about this robots in one of the newsgroup.

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